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S.Red please · « **Reply #400 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:07:48 pm »

What is the basic starting salary for a P.E./Sports teacher in both secondary school and college? It's just that I am going uni next year and I want to be a coach but I've been advised to look up more about teaching as a 'back up' plan. I've already done 12 weeks experience in a Secondary School (Academy) and it was brilliant, but that was without me doing any paperwork or planning lessons just taking practical lessons. Pretty much every time I saw an actual teacher out of lesson they were doing some sort of paperwork so that has kind of put me off a bit. The fact that they would all say "Dont be a teacher" when I spoke to them has also pushed me to the coaching career slightly whether they were joking or not. Advice would be brilliant (on what it is like teaching & the pay)

TheKid. · « **Reply #401 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:17:57 pm »

Pay scale here

http://www.teachers.org.uk/node/12716

Oscarmac · « **Reply #402 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:22:55 pm »

irish pay scale

http://www.asti.ie/pay-and-conditions/pay/salary-scale/salary-scale-for-teachers-appointed-prior-to-january-2011/

TheKid. · « **Reply #403 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:32:52 pm »

Christ not only do you Irish work less you get paid more!

TheKid. · « **Reply #404 on:** July 22, 2011, 09:30:18 am »

Last day today thank god. We seem to be one of the few schools still actually in, and no early finish!

۩ Imperator ۩ · « **Reply #405 on:** July 22, 2011, 09:56:43 am »

Quote from: TheKid. on July 22, 2011, 09:30:18 am

Last day today thank god. We seem to be one of the few schools still actually in, and no early finish!

6 weeks of furious masturbation is just around the corner for you, kid.

TheKid. · « **Reply #406 on:** July 22, 2011, 10:01:39 am »

Furious? Nah, like you say I've got six weeks

JamesG L4 · « **Reply #407 on:** July 22, 2011, 10:06:13 am »

Finished on Tuesday at 1:30, go back Sep 1st... Glorious!

What people forget is the last two weeks don't really count, nor does the first week - so it's a 9 week holiday really.

TheKid. · « **Reply #408 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:16:03 pm »

I wish! First time in memory we're here all day!

TheKid. · « **Reply #409 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:17:01 pm »

Oh half four. Yeah definitely. My lack of reading skills thought you'd imply it already was. I blame that full day previously mentioned

XabiArt · « **Reply #410 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:33:00 pm »

So six weeks off, do you get bored?

TheKid. · « **Reply #411 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:50:53 pm »

Fuck no!!

XabiArt · « **Reply #412 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:51:37 pm »

Bastard.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #413 on:** July 23, 2011, 11:35:31 pm »

Quote from: kindalen on July 15, 2011, 02:22:55 pm

irish pay scale

http://www.asti.ie/pay-and-conditions/pay/salary-scale/salary-scale-for-teachers-appointed-prior-to-january-2011/

Ahh!

Now we can see why Ireland is going bust!

UntouchableLuis · « **Reply #414 on:** July 23, 2011, 11:45:18 pm »

Will be hopefully doing a PGCE next year (starting final year of uni in september) and the course requires you to have had 10 days work experience at a school prior to starting. Just wondering when it would be sensible to do those ten days? I think you have to apply for the course as early as October as it's first come first serve but obviously the 10 days work experience would have to be done after applying? I'm a little unsure. Any advice would be great!

TepidT2O · « **Reply #415 on:** July 24, 2011, 12:01:33 am »

Quote from: UntouchableLuis on July 23, 2011, 11:45:18 pm

Will be hopefully doing a PGCE next year (starting final year of uni in september) and the course requires you to have had 10 days work experience at a school prior to starting. Just wondering when it would be sensible to do those ten days? I think you have to apply for the course as early as October as it's first come first serve but obviously the 10 days work experience would have to be done after applying? I'm a little unsure. Any advice would be great!

Just phone up local schools and ask.

Most should be pretty accommodating.

Try the school you went to as a kid, it would be an eye opener to see it from the other side of the fence.

UntouchableLuis · « **Reply #416 on:** July 24, 2011, 12:03:40 am »

Quote from: Tepid water on July 24, 2011, 12:01:33 am

Just phone up local schools and ask.

Most should be pretty accommodating.

Try the school you went to as a kid, it would be an eye opener to see it from the other side of the fence.

Yeah I definitely will ring my old school and I'm pretty sure they'll be accomodating! I think I might have to have experience of two different schools, at least for the course at Hope Uni. I loved my school life to be honest and it would be great but strange to go back to learn about teaching rather than Shakespeare and grammar

Roady · « **Reply #417 on:** July 24, 2011, 12:26:48 am »

12 weeks holiday a year not bad at all..and short hours

Roady · « **Reply #418 on:** July 24, 2011, 12:27:06 am »

S.Red please · « **Reply #419 on:** July 24, 2011, 12:34:18 am »

Quote from: Tepid water on July 24, 2011, 12:01:33 am

Try the school you went to as a kid, it would be an eye opener to see it from the other side of the fence.

I went a year after finishing school back to teach and do 80 hours work experience. And it was definitely an eye opener. I used to dislike some of my old teachers but getting to know them on a colleague basis made me realise they are actually nice people who go out of their way to prepare lessons and give kids the best education.

rakey_lfc · « **Reply #420 on:** July 24, 2011, 06:53:21 pm »

Graduated thursday, QTS arrived yesterday

Got a job back at my old school which is turning into an academy. It's a combination of sports technician, TA and Cover supervisor, all based in PE. Not ideal but back in education.

They've also said they'd give me opportunities for PD and ongoing teaching/team teaching hours. Even better I'm contracted but they've said they'd support me in the process of finding a teaching job even if its in october for example.

TheKid. · « **Reply #421 on:** July 24, 2011, 08:03:03 pm »

Well in fella, hopefully a teaching post will come around but good stuff to be working in the meantime.
Ah sunday nights feel so good in the summer holidays

Fitzy. · « **Reply #422 on:** July 24, 2011, 10:47:59 pm »

Quote from: TheKid. on July 24, 2011, 08:03:03 pm

Well in fella, hopefully a teaching post will come around but good stuff to be working in the meantime.
Ah sunday nights feel so good in the summer holidays

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tommy LFC · « **Reply #423 on:** July 26, 2011, 01:35:31 am »

I have a few interviews coming up for teaching (primary school), was just wondering if anyone who has experience wishes to give me any advice?

Also, whats the job scene in England like for primary school teachers? Its terrible here in Ireland...

TepidT2O · « **Reply #424 on:** July 26, 2011, 09:25:19 am »

Quote from: tommyLFC on July 26, 2011, 01:35:31 am

I have a few interviews coming up for teaching (primary school), was just wondering if anyone who has experience wishes to give me any advice?

Also, whats the job scene in England like for primary school teachers? Its terrible here in Ireland...

If you want a job, go to London and the surrounding areas as it's really expensive to live there and there is always a shortage of good public service staff.

TheKid. · « **Reply #425 on:** July 26, 2011, 09:50:25 am »

Quote from: tommyLFC on July 26, 2011, 01:35:31 am

I have a few interviews coming up for teaching (primary school), was just wondering if anyone who has experience wishes to give me any advice?

Also, whats the job scene in England like for primary school teachers? Its terrible here in Ireland...

Job scene is poor for pretty much all teachers at the moment

JamesG L4 · « **Reply #426 on:** July 26, 2011, 10:44:05 am »

Quote from: tommyLFC on July 26, 2011, 01:35:31 am

I have a few interviews coming up for teaching (primary school), was just wondering if anyone who has experience wishes to give me any advice?

Also, whats the job scene in England like for primary school teachers? Its terrible here in Ireland...

Best bet is to look on the TES forums for any advice... it is a superb resource for advice and lesson resources. It is to teaching what RAWK is to football.

http://www.tes.co.uk/forums.aspx Forum Index

TepidT2O · « **Reply #427 on:** July 26, 2011, 10:45:38 am »

Quote from: TheKid. on July 26, 2011, 09:50:25 am

Job scene is poor for pretty much all teachers at the moment

No, it's not.

Teach science, maths or languages and work in or around London and you could walk into a job within a week.
Seriously folks, if you want to teach those subjects at secondary level then sign up and get on a course, there is an abject shortage of good people.

(ok, I know primary is difficult to get a job in at the moment, but it's about what you teach and where).

TravellingRed · « **Reply #428 on:** July 26, 2011, 10:52:14 am »

Got an interview next Weds to get on a DTLLS course at Newcastle College, bit nervous but fingers crossed should go well.

1 year course then hopefully should be teaching business and ICT at college

Does anyone else here teach at college?

TheKid. · « **Reply #429 on:** July 26, 2011, 11:59:58 am »

Quote from: Tepid water on July 26, 2011, 10:45:38 am

No, it's not.

Teach science, maths or languages and work in or around London and you could walk into a job within a week.
Seriously folks, if you want to teach those subjects at secondary level then sign up and get on a course, there is an abject shortage of good people.

(ok, I know primary is difficult to get a job in at the moment, but it's about what you teach and where).

I do teach languages and there's not that many jobs about. Plus schools are making cuts obviously, we had about 7 teachers leave this summer and they weren't replaced.

Dunno about London tho

JamesG L4 · « **Reply #430 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:12:25 pm »

http://community.tes.co.uk/forums/77.aspx

Lots of great information about possible interview questions, how to get shortlisted.

An NQT landed a job in our school (for which 200 teachers applied - madness) - when she dressed up as Hermoine for a Literacy observation lesson in the interview process. The kids immediately connected with her and that's one of the cornerstones of teaching done before she had said a word. You would be surprised how many applications have spelling mistakes in - get it checked and checked again. Handwrite your personal statement, and make sure your grammar and handwriting are on best behaviour.

Read the TES newspaper or Guardian education section so you know about current issues in education. Think of it as pre-season training - you need to be better than at least 100 other people.

Goodluck.

G a r y · « **Reply #431 on:** July 31, 2011, 03:47:19 pm »

I need a new challenge I think, been at my current school for 5 years, it will be 6 in September.

Being made recently single has also got me thinking about teaching abroad. Has anyone done it? Any advice? I don't know anyone who has ever done it!

Rainy · « **Reply #432 on:** August 3, 2011, 03:43:30 pm »

Right then, I need some RAWKy advice.

I have interviewed at Oxford and York for their PGCEs this week through Clearing, and I have today found out that I have been offered a place at both. I've now got to choose between them.

I have absolutely no preference as to the towns. They're both similar in themselves in terms of the architecture, size, demographics - and they're essentially equidistant from my family home. A plus for Oxford is that it's closer to London where many of my university friends are based. In terms of the tutors, I got on with both sets and struck up a good relationship with both and can see myself excelling working with either. Both providers were also extremely quick in replying to me, offering interviews and then a successful place within a week or so of it coming up on GTTR.

I know that a PGCE Provider is a PGCE Provider, and that what really makes a difference when it comes to finding jobs are things like your grading in your teaching practice and other assessments, but there does seem to be a certain cachet when it comes to saying that you studied at Oxford...

Any tips or advice?

ceered · « **Reply #433 on:** August 3, 2011, 04:36:26 pm »

Quote from: G a r y on July 31, 2011, 03:47:19 pm

I need a new challenge I think, been at my current school for 5 years, it will be 6 in September.

Being made recently single has also got me thinking about teaching abroad. Has anyone done it? Any advice? I don't know anyone who has ever done it!

A friend of mine went to Japan for a year and absolutely loved it. Mind you that was 20+ years ago!

the good half · « **Reply #434 on:** August 16, 2011, 08:34:48 pm »

Hate to bump the thread folks as you are still all enjoying your hols...

Im moving to the UK next week.
Broadstairs in Kent.

My English classes are Years 7, 8, 9, plus 10 and 11 for GCSE.

If anyone is around there or taking these classes - can you PM me, as I have a few questions.
As Im not English, maybe you could help.

Cheers RAWK.

TGH

TepidT2O · « **Reply #435 on:** August 16, 2011, 09:31:30 pm »

Quote from: Rainy on August 3, 2011, 03:43:30 pm

Right then, I need some RAWKy advice.

I have interviewed at Oxford and York for their PGCEs this week through Clearing, and I have today found out that I have been offered a place at both. I've now got to choose between them.

I have absolutely no preference as to the towns. They're both similar in themselves in terms of the architecture, size, demographics - and they're essentially equidistant from my family home. A plus for Oxford is that it's closer to London where many of my university friends are based. In terms of the tutors, I got on with both sets and struck up a good relationship with both and can see myself excelling working with either. Both providers were also extremely quick in replying to me, offering interviews and then a successful place within a week or so of it coming up on GTTR.

I know that a PGCE Provider is a PGCE Provider, and that what really makes a difference when it comes to finding jobs are things like your grading in your teaching practice and other assessments, but there does seem to be a certain cachet when it comes to saying that you studied at Oxford...

Any tips or advice?

It really won't make much odds to be honest.

I've worked with students from Oxford and they seemed to get good support, that's the most important thing.

Don't worry about the name of the uni, no one else will for a pgcse.

What course are you following?

Effes · « **Reply #436 on:** August 16, 2011, 09:51:02 pm »

I would have said Oxford has world-wide reputation compared to York.

the good half · « **Reply #437 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:13:12 pm »

What and where do you teact Tepid Water?

TepidT2O · « **Reply #438 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:14:34 pm »

Quote from: the good half on August 16, 2011, 10:13:12 pm

What and where do you teact Tepid Water?

Science, don't get many from Oxford down in Berkshire though, just the odd one.

the good half · « **Reply #439 on:** August 16, 2011, 10:19:22 pm »

Quote from: Tepid water on August 16, 2011, 10:14:34 pm

Science, don't get many from Oxford down in Berkshire though, just the odd one.

Excellent.
As I posted earlier, Im moving to Kent to teach Eng and RE.
But Im from UCD, in Dublin.

Trying to get advice from some English teachers.

Hope you're enjoying yer Hols.