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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #240 on: September 2, 2022, 07:23:47 am »
how much did they spend in total?
£145m I believe
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #241 on: September 2, 2022, 08:27:47 am »
how much did they spend in total?

Around 145 million

The players left from last season squad are:

Jordan Smith (3rd choice GK)
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #242 on: September 2, 2022, 09:34:04 am »
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Imagine the Nottingham Forest summer signings doing their initiation songs in the hotel the night before their next away game, it’ll be like fucking Live Aid.
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #243 on: September 2, 2022, 12:26:27 pm »
At least they've gotten the toughest part of the schedule out but no doubt a convincing win at home to Bournemouth is going to be crucial to lift the pressure off the shoulders of Cooper and the new guys. It was set up in a way where they could've easily been on say one point after five games but now they're on five so it's going to be game on for them from here. Looks like Forest have a very high mid-table ceiling if they gel the different parts together but they could also go down if they don't. Which in turn risks leading to the demise of the whole club.
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #244 on: September 2, 2022, 12:30:32 pm »
21 players in one window is insane.

I'd love to know who our 21st player back is we signed.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #245 on: September 2, 2022, 12:33:37 pm »
21 players in one window is insane.

I'd love to know who our 21st player back is we signed.

As the world's most expensive players flock to the Premier League driving up the quality of mid-table teams compared to in the past, this type of transfer window will be more common in the future. That is unless enough money gets into the Championship that predicted mid-table sides like Forest last year had squads of handy enough players to actually stay up if they got promoted. Bournemouth getting smashed 9-0 with a scoreline that could've been a lot more is probably proof enough that you nowadays need to do something in order to stay up.
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #246 on: September 2, 2022, 12:40:58 pm »
21 players in one window is insane.

I'd love to know who our 21st player back is we signed.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #247 on: September 2, 2022, 12:44:40 pm »
I wouldnt say they've actually signed anyone particularly surprising for a newly promoted team needing a lot of players. Lodi is probably the only one who stands out that he's taken a bit of a dive from where he was. Its just the quantity thats surprising
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #248 on: September 2, 2022, 12:53:17 pm »
21 players in one window is insane.

I'd love to know who our 21st player back is we signed.
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #249 on: September 2, 2022, 12:58:56 pm »
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #250 on: September 2, 2022, 01:06:59 pm »
Pretty sure they’ll get relegated. They look championship level, and introducing so many players is just an impossible task…

It's quite curious this team chemistry thing. How much it really means. Spain obviously benefitted from some time from the Xavi/Iniesta connection but they still managed to play like Barcelona without much of the team present. For me, I have no doubts that good players gel pretty quickly. If you'd put together the French national team minus Mbappé and had them play against PSG in Ligue 1, I'm not so certain that 'not playing together' would be an issue for too long. The issue is, are the Forest players really good enough? For me they look like a team a touch above Everton and Aston Villa so far, but it's very tight in that region of the table.

Above all, it's an interesting experiment from a sports science perspective as in: how long does it take to gel a team of average Premier League players into playing average Premier League football and can it be done in time?
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #251 on: September 17, 2022, 09:35:22 am »
It would be disastrous for them if they get relegated after spending 150M.
They have to win a few before they face us and Arsenal or they are fucked.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #252 on: September 17, 2022, 09:44:00 am »
They are getting relegated but will score a stupid amount of goals for a relegated side.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #253 on: September 17, 2022, 10:26:08 am »
Wont be surprised to see sean dyche takeover.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #254 on: September 17, 2022, 10:51:28 am »
Straight back down and with the money they've spent, they'll never come back. What a shame.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #255 on: October 7, 2022, 12:07:53 pm »
BREAKING:  Not really a surprise given their start to the season, but Steve Cooper has been sacked  given a contract extension to 2025 by Nottingham Forest.
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #256 on: October 7, 2022, 03:23:43 pm »
BREAKING:  Not really a surprise given their start to the season, but Steve Cooper has been sacked  given a contract extension to 2025 by Nottingham Forest.

The supporters are absolutely buzzing. He's their best manager in a long time and I reckon they were getting worried the owner would do something stupid. I know some Forest fans and fair to say no other manager has had this kind of backing from the fans since they used to be good. Nice to see Marinakis stick with it; hopefully they see it through, even if they get relegated.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #257 on: October 7, 2022, 03:44:24 pm »
The supporters are absolutely buzzing. He's their best manager in a long time and I reckon they were getting worried the owner would do something stupid. I know some Forest fans and fair to say no other manager has had this kind of backing from the fans since they used to be good. Nice to see Marinakis stick with it; hopefully they see it through, even if they get relegated.

If he's still there by the end of the season i'd be surprised.
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #258 on: October 7, 2022, 04:35:23 pm »
Very good chance he'll see out the season then
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #259 on: October 7, 2022, 05:11:36 pm »
If he's still there by the end of the season i'd be surprised Johnny Buzzkill, still.
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #260 on: October 8, 2022, 10:42:22 am »
Straight back down and with the money they've spent, they'll never come back. What a shame.

Haven't they basically just blown their pl tv money windfall, depending on who stays there if they are relegated, they should have a decent chance of becoming a yoyo club rather than ending up stuck in the championship.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #261 on: October 8, 2022, 11:50:15 am »
Very good chance he'll see out the season then

He could do but he'll get sacked if they keep losing or if they're cut adrift by the new year. They look like getting beat every week at the minute. I think they've took the gamble that tte new contract will remove doubt and give the squad a boost. Results have to follow though.
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #262 on: October 11, 2022, 11:13:54 pm »
BREAKING:  Not really a surprise given their start to the season, but Steve Cooper has been sacked  given a contract extension to 2025 by Nottingham Forest.

Followed-up by sacking their heads of recruitment & scouting: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/oct/11/nottingham-forest-sack-heads-of-recruitment-and-scouting

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #263 on: October 12, 2022, 10:13:41 am »
Have sacked their head of recruitment and head scout.
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Re: Nottingham Forest
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #265 on: October 12, 2022, 04:10:55 pm »
Really strange recruitment.  Cooper's known for working well with young players.  They definitely needed to bring in experienced established footballers, but Cooper's presence can also get some good loan deals.  A combination that results in several new signings should do.

Instead, they go on a crazy buying binge and then sack their heads of recruitment and scouting?
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #266 on: October 12, 2022, 05:32:00 pm »
Seems there was internal infighting between the two fellas who were sacked and the son of the owner according to the Athletic.
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #267 on: October 12, 2022, 07:28:32 pm »
Some very interesting reading to be had about their owner too..
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #268 on: October 13, 2022, 08:48:44 am »
They remind me of when Middlesbrough came up a few years ago. Defensive, boring football hoping to grind out results so they stay up. They couldn't and neither will Forest. They'll go down with less than 30 points.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #269 on: October 13, 2022, 08:51:38 am »
They remind me of when Middlesbrough came up a few years ago. Defensive, boring football hoping to grind out results so they stay up. They couldn't and neither will Forest. They'll go down with less than 30 points.

Forest just haven't got a clean sheet in them to grind out results. Even the West Ham win they should have scored a bagful.
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« Reply #270 on: October 13, 2022, 10:44:14 am »
They remind me of when Middlesbrough came up a few years ago. Defensive, boring football hoping to grind out results so they stay up. They couldn't and neither will Forest. They'll go down with less than 30 points.

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« Reply #271 on: October 13, 2022, 11:27:40 am »
They remind me of when Middlesbrough came up a few years ago. Defensive, boring football hoping to grind out results so they stay up. They couldn't and neither will Forest. They'll go down with less than 30 points.
That's not how they won promotion though or how they enjoyed good cup runs.  I think they've had to become more 'pragmatic' because they were getting played through really, really easily.

I guess they'll be looking to nick a few points here and there before the World Cup then work on getting the vast collection of new players to play the managers preferred style of football.

I think they were on to a bit of a loser from the day they won promotion.  Either they took the Fulham approach of spending big and hoping enough of the new players hit the ground running, or they took the Norwich approach of just banking the windfall and then building again in the Championship.  Bournemouth and Fulham both had much stronger starting squads this summer.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #272 on: October 19, 2022, 04:12:47 pm »
Not on Twitter, but this was passed onto me by a mate....

https://twitter.com/ziggerzagger67/status/1582663742164123648?t=ADvEhxqjHZlAlk7rJ2IiHw&s=08&fbclid=IwAR00oPUNrNd2uGv7cjI_luVViyHXrlUgVwr3O2EEJsIV-LcTPdw65lN6t20

Finally, a supporter from another club who gets us ;)
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #274 on: October 19, 2022, 04:19:09 pm »
Not on Twitter, but this was passed onto me by a mate....

https://twitter.com/ziggerzagger67/status/1582663742164123648?t=ADvEhxqjHZlAlk7rJ2IiHw&s=08&fbclid=IwAR00oPUNrNd2uGv7cjI_luVViyHXrlUgVwr3O2EEJsIV-LcTPdw65lN6t20

Finally, a supporter from another club who gets us ;)

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« Reply #275 on: October 19, 2022, 04:24:08 pm »
Not on Twitter, but this was passed onto me by a mate....

https://twitter.com/ziggerzagger67/status/1582663742164123648?t=ADvEhxqjHZlAlk7rJ2IiHw&s=08&fbclid=IwAR00oPUNrNd2uGv7cjI_luVViyHXrlUgVwr3O2EEJsIV-LcTPdw65lN6t20

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #276 on: October 19, 2022, 04:36:47 pm »
Fair play to the lad.

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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #277 on: July 12, 2023, 04:19:45 pm »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66180483

Harry Toffolo: Nottingham Forest defender charged by FA over breaching betting rules 375 times

Nottingham Forest defender Harry Toffolo has been charged by the Football Association for breaching its betting rules.

It is alleged he breached FA rules, which ban players from placing bets or passing on information that could be used for betting, 375 times between 22 January 2014 and 18 March 2017.

He was signed to Norwich City at the time, and played on loan for Swindon, Rotherham, Peterborough and Scunthorpe.

Toffolo has until 19 July to respond.

It comes after Brentford and England striker Ivan Toney was banned for eight months in May after admitting to 232 breaches of the FA's betting rules.

Toney, 27, was initially charged in November 2022 and missed out on a place in Gareth Southgate's 26-man squad for the 2022 World Cup.

However, Toney 's ban was reduced from 11 months to eight, because of a diagnosed gambling addiction and he will not be allowed to play again until 17 January 2024.

Forest signed 27-year-old Toffolo from Huddersfield Town last summer, in a deal which also included Terriers midfielder Lewis O'Brien, for around £10m.

Toffolo made 19 Premier League appearances for the newly-promoted side during the 2022-23 season.
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Re: Nottingham Forest
« Reply #278 on: July 12, 2023, 04:29:48 pm »
On loan at a slew of League Two clubs, he probably was hedging his bets that he might not even have a future in the pro game and looking to use whatever info he had to make some needed money.

Purely speculative on my part mind.
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« Reply #279 on: July 12, 2023, 04:35:32 pm »
Doesn't seem fair to punish someone for doing something like this 6 years ago, unless he was full on betting on his own team and doing things to ensure he won. Even more so given that his standing in football is completely different to how it was back then.
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