Topic: I lied on my C.V. and now . . . .

[firing squad]

In my old job, one of the lads was in the same boat and had been working there for over a year before being approached by H.R. The mad/stupid fucker forged his and got away with it.

which is why YOU decided to do it for your new job and now it got complicated. Admit it,you'll feel better!

[royhendo]

Yes I have read it, and I know Frank Abagnale then worked to prevent people doing what he did.

It's a brilliant book isn't it? Much better than the film...

Anyway yeah - it doesn't happen enough does it? I got put through the ringer on this one - as Robbie Burns said "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive."

[DangerScouse]

which is why YOU decided to do it for your new job and now it got complicated. Admit it,you'll feel better!

 

[BazC]

I thought it was all checked by going to the source? So instead of producing a certificate, which could, in theory, be fake, wouldn't they just go to the university and ask for proof that he was enrolled there and obtained a degree?

[Garstonite]

Tell him to do the sensible thing and fake his own death.

[El Rey, por favor]

Haha, some classic replies in this thread.

[SP]

I thought it was all checked by going to the source? So instead of producing a certificate, which could, in theory, be fake, wouldn't they just go to the university and ask for proof that he was enrolled there and obtained a degree?

Are the university allowed to divulge that information? Isn't it personal information and covered by the DPA?

[Cleary]

"your friend" 

[Jimmy Conway]

University are obliged to keep all work for minimum of 15 years, so I imagine its pretty easy to check these kind of things.
Over heard some cockney legal eagle talking about it, he'd been to Liverpool Hope to discuss it.....or something anyway.
As far as divulging information, my degree result was posted in the paper so its hardly confidential.

My sentiments are, he has taken someone else's job. Someone who spent 3 or 4 years at Uni, and probably getting into massive debt in doing so. So he should quit and open to the position up to someone who deserves it.

If the original poster is using 'my mate' story as a cover. That's bad form. Could deceit be in the blood
(Apologies if you are being truthful, just pass on these comments to your mate)

[amir87]

Tell him to carry a knife from now on. I'll think about what he can do with it later...

[BazC]

Are the university allowed to divulge that information? Isn't it personal information and covered by the DPA?

I guess it might be, but I think I've heard of employers checking up on employees from contacting their old uni etc. Perhaps they have to ask permission to do so though.

[SP]

University are obliged to keep all work for minimum of 15 years, so I imagine its pretty easy to check these kind of things.
Over heard some cockney legal eagle talking about it, he'd been to Liverpool Hope to discuss it.....or something anyway.
As far as divulging information, my degree result was posted in the paper so its hardly confidential.

Does it matter whether the information is in the public domain? You could legally retrieve the newspaper version of the results. But I would think the employer would need a signed disclaimer from the employee to obtain that information directly.

[Party Phil]

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Lying to your employer is one thing but lying to RAWK is beyond the pale. You'll be shot at dawn if we find out it was you.

[ashleyrose-66]

If he has been there for some time, and I assume has had an appraisal in that time, which shows he is competent at his job, then his HR manager might be nice to him and allow him to carry on.

I would own up, but be a real creep and tell them you (sorry, he) was so desperate to get the job you (sorry, he) lied about the qualification and if it causes a problem, you (sorry, he) would offer your resignation.

If you (sorry, he) resign, they cannot write you a "bad" reference!

[RigBon1892]

Perhaps that's because a teaching qualification at a University and a job at a bank are different things?

Well for any job I went for in the year in between graduating and starting the PGCE it was the same. I had to bring my qualifications with me to the interview.

[Party Phil]

If he has been there for some time, and I assume has had an appraisal in that time, which shows he is competent at his job, then his HR manager might be nice to him and allow him to carry on.

I would own up, but be a real creep and tell them you (sorry, he) was so desperate to get the job you (sorry, he) lied about the qualification and if it causes a problem, you (sorry, he) would offer your resignation.

If you (sorry, he) resign, they cannot write you a "bad" reference!

Is "He lied on his CV to get the job and resigned as soon as we found him out" not a bad reference?

[ashleyrose-66]

Is "He lied on his CV to get the job and resigned as soon as we found him out" not a bad reference?

If he resigns and says his reason for leaving was due to personal reasons, they cannot, by employment law mention what happened.
If he has a chat with the HR manager, and it is apparant that the company will have him up on a misconduct hearing, then he can resign before any disciplinary hearing without the firm being able to mention it.

He won't get a glowing reference, but they can't give him a bad reference.

[Brian Blessed]

Send HR a link to this thread.

[Party Phil]

If he resigns and says his reason for leaving was due to personal reasons, they cannot, by employment law mention what happened.
If he has a chat with the HR manager, and it is apparant that the company will have him up on a misconduct hearing, then he can resign before any disciplinary hearing without the firm being able to mention it.

He won't get a glowing reference, but they can't give him a bad reference.

That's a shame

[MichaelA]

Sorted. 

[Sat1]

Forge it, buy a degree of someone that does it. Everyone knows someone who knows someone who can get a certificate.

Or quit.

Or get sacked.

Nearly everyone lies on their CV, I did and got called into a interview with three people. Owned up in the interview that some stuff was a bit exaggerated. I got the job.

[buzzing]

Yep thats the main reason, people go to Uni for years to get the qualifications for their dream job and then some c*nt just lies about his? Not right if you ask me.

Is right. Hopefully he wont put this job as work experience in his updated cv and get another job by making look at he's got the experience

[GBF]

He works for a very large international bank and lied in his C.V. by stating he had a degree in public relations.

He is a banker!!!  Burn him in the middle of the village!!!!


what kind of cock put a fake degree?  fake about other things but degrees are the last things you fake!

[damian]

Just tell them it was a mistake, you/your mate downloaded the CV template, and forgot to delete that line from it. You/he never claimed to have a degree, and can therefore not be held responsible

Failing that, I've got plenty of emails offering degree certificates if it will be of assistance

[Slave]

KILL EVERYBODY.

[Something Else]

Is this not fraud, so if found out serious trouble

Surely leaving as soon as possible is the only option`

[exiledintheUSA]

Tell your 'friend' not to turn up to work in the morning. We are on to him.

[Troglodyte]

well it wasn't me but a good mate of mine did. He works for a very large international bank and lied in his C.V. by stating he had a degree in public relations. H.R. have been onto him twice this week looking for confirmation of his degree. Any suggestions as to the best way to resolve this? He isn't keen in forging any documents as this will make matters far worse if he's found out.

How the fuck? Its standard corporate practice , they will check the photocopies of your certificates and degrees  right after you are hired. If you are waiting for your degree and haven't received it yet , they'll ask you when can you submit it and you'll have to produce it on that date.
Olus , most of these larger corp. hire background checking companies whose job is to meticulously verify details for veracity.Any discrepancy and you are screwed unless you come up with a credible explanation.

I know , I have interviewed Interns for our org.

[firing squad]

Tell your 'friend' not to turn up to work in the morning. We are on to him.

Mr Anderson!!!!!!

[DangerScouse]

It's not me ya bunch of cretins! Don't make be the first rawkite to bring lawsuits against other posters for defamation. I've already lined up Corkboy to represent me!!;D

Am i right in presuming that the normal course of action would be dismissal if he came clean?

[Something Else]

It's not me ya bunch of cretins!

Am i right in presuming that the normal course of action would be dismissal if he came clean?

As a minimum I can imagine, firstly its lieing, secondly it may affect their coorporate insurance if someone does not have the neccesary qualifications, it does in my area, and thirdly, as I said, is it not fraud so therefore can they not sue

[damian]

It's not me ya bunch of cretins! Don't make be the first rawkite to bring lawsuits against other posters for defamation.

Am i right in presuming that the normal course of action would be dismissal if he came clean?

Depends how good he is at his job I suppose - if he's particularly good at it they might want to keep hold of him, but could possibly reduce his wages (?). But it would be a bloody good excuse to get rid of him, he'd have absolutely no comeback.

[Party Phil]

It's not me ya bunch of cretins! Don't make be the first rawkite to bring lawsuits against other posters for defamation. I've already lined up Corkboy to represent me!!;D

Am i right in presuming that the normal course of action would be dismissal if he came clean?

I'd be amazed if it wasn't

[RigBon1892]

Depends how good he is at his job I suppose - if he's particularly good at it they might want to keep hold of him, but could possibly reduce his wages (?). But it would be a bloody good excuse to get rid of him, he'd have absolutely no comeback.

If he's lasted 18 months maybe he's alright at it.

Keep quiet, resign and chalk it down to experience.

[damian]

Expect DangerScouses post count to rocket soon, he'll have a lot more time on his hands it seems

[Party Phil]

May as well start posting in here now:

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=239932.0

[JoeH]

In the IT contracting world, you meet an endless stream of people who claim to have qualifications but who in fact used to be posties, plumbers, and so on and so forth. I'd recommend reading "Catch Me If You Can".

Had a cisco engineer turn up at out place to fit some new routers and fibre, he didnt know what the fibre connection was and was looking for an RJ45 plug to fit on the end of the fibre cable    They were paying £85 per hour for this muppet and I just watched in disbelief as he was mullering the patch cabinet.

[Joe Rogans Chin]

Your mate might get a squeaky bum if he reads sections 1,2 and 3 of the Fraud Act 2006.

[Brian Blessed]

It's not me ya bunch of cretins! Don't make be the first rawkite to bring lawsuits against other posters for defamation. I've already lined up Corkboy to represent me!!;D

Pfft. Corky isn't really a lawyer. His diploma is written in crayon.

[MidwestWool]

He's fucked. Plain and simple. He needs to resign, imo. If he's found out, then it's shitload of trouble for him.