Topic: Jeffrey Epstein confidante Ghislaine Maxwell sentenced to 20 years

[Henry Gale]

I remember when Bill Wyman dated a 14 year old. Imagine that these days??

Like Jerry lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin.

R kelly was born in the wrong times it seems.

[Mister Flip Flop]

Define young? Clinton 49 when he was involved with a 22 year old Lewinsky. That's young.

And creepy

[BarryCrocker]

And creepy

Apparently not for rock or movie stars.

[Mister Flip Flop]

Apparently not for rock or movie stars.

A weird bunch. When you read  about a lot of the stuff they got up to it was out and pedo standard behaviour.

[Red-Soldier]

Like Jerry lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin.

R kelly was born in the wrong times it seems.

Surprised he didn't use that, in his defence.

Jerry Lee Lewis career went south, after that, I do believe.

[Ray K]

Daily Mail writers are going to be working overtime on the Meghan Markle The Evil Witch Eats Avocado stories today to keep 'Prince' Nonce off the front pages. 

[Henry Gale]

Surprised he didn't use that, in his defence.

Jerry Lee Lewis career went south, after that, I do believe.

Wouldn't have surprised me!

Yeah back then it was very common, I'm sure Elvis had a much younger partner too.

[KurtVerbose]

There's a big difference between old men consensually dating much younger women and rich men using their money and power to abuse children.

[Spezialo]

"Jane Doe#3 was forced to have sexual relations with this Prince when she was a minor in three separate geographical locations; in London (Ghislaine Maxwell's apartment), in New York, and on Epstein's private island in the U.S Virgin Islands (in an orgy with numerous other under-aged girls)."

Allegedly.

[vblfc]

"Jane Doe#3 was forced to have sexual relations with this Prince when she was a minor in three separate geographical locations; in London (Ghislaine Maxwell's apartment), in New York, and on Epstein's private island in the U.S Virgin Islands (in an orgy with numerous other under-aged girls)."

Allegedly.

and the BBC reports there was nothing controversial in the released docs.  Just a normal orgy of numerous underage girls then?

[thejbs]

Surprised he didn't use that, in his defence.

Jerry Lee Lewis career went south, after that, I do believe.

Yet, Elvis career didn’t suffer when he became infatuated with a 14-year-old Priscilla, taking her on dates.

Lewis’s career was only affected in England.

[Draex]

Was reading some of the articles this morning and clicked on a link to Andrew's settlement with Virginia Giuffre. I know/assume this was well covered in the news back then, but silence was bought (seems for for £12 million from the Queen’s cash drawer). So this was paid indirectly by the British public essentially (I guess). It’s interesting how such a payment hushes up the narrative - So even though it all was publicized, can’t hurt to keep reminding the public what they are getting for their money and what £12million can buy a naughty Royal these days.

He visited 67 times the dirty nonce.

[Spezialo]

Of course the Queen bailed him out. Epstein and Maxwell stayed at her residence in Balmoral.

[gemofabird]

and the BBC reports there was nothing controversial in the released docs.  Just a normal orgy of numerous underage girls then?

All media outlets are all reporting the same, as they always do. They're all the same...

We are ruled by nonces!

[Fromola]

All media outlets are all reporting the same, as they always do. They're all the same...

We are ruled by nonces!

The BBC is the establishment for the establishment. Then you've got the likes of the Murdoch media who just gather intel for blackmail purposes.

The only way these things ever come out is via social media.

[Nick110581]

https://t.co/TxIHmtzwOn

Met not interested in reopening investigation into a Royal.

[Spezialo]

What a shock. Higher ups in the Met are probably dodgy as well.

[So… Howard Philips]

https://t.co/TxIHmtzwOn

Met not interested in reopening investigation into a Royal.

If the offence was committed outside the UK they wouldn’t have any jurisdiction?

[thejbs]

If the offence was committed outside the UK they wouldn’t have any jurisdiction?

They can still open an investigation based on his time spent with Epstein in the uk.

[Jiminy Cricket]

If the offence was committed outside the UK they wouldn’t have any jurisdiction?

I believe the types of crimes of which Prince Andrew is accused, even when committed outside of the UK, can be prosecuted within the UK.

[Barneylfc∗]

Yet, Elvis career didn’t suffer when he became infatuated with a 14-year-old Priscilla, taking her on dates.

Lewis’s career was only affected in England.

No one gives a fuck about an 18 year old Prince Phillip of Greece and Denmark grooming a 13 year old heir to the British Throne either.

I guess if your da gets away with being a nonce then Andy has thought he may as well give it a go.

[Indomitable_Carp]

No one gives a fuck about an 18 year old Prince Phillip of Greece and Denmark grooming a 13 year old heir to the British Throne either.

I guess if your da gets away with being a nonce then Andy has thought he may as well give it a go.

The simple fact is, back in those days, it was more common and considered more acceptable. There are people who we still hero worship as rockstars who spent the 1970s sleeping with underage girls. Here is one famous "baby groupie":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sable_Starr

Lost her virginity at 12 to a rock star, slept with Iggy Pop when she was 13, and claimed to have slept with David Bowie, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, and Johnny Thunders. She was far from the only one.

I remember when I was younger you'd have 15 year old girls getting picked up outside of school (still in their uniforms) by lads in their 20s with cars. That was only 20 years ago. I remember getting to my 20s and thinking "why the fuck would you want to sleep with a 16 year old, let alone someone younger?!". Grim.

None of this is a defence of Prince Andrew by the way. Just pointing out how much our ideas of consent, safeguarding and sexual assault have changed.

[thejbs]

Prince Andrew's return less likely than ever after nightmare new year https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67884357

I love that headline.his return is unlikely because of a nightmare new year rather than because he was involved in a sex trafficking scandal.

[Jiminy Cricket]

Prince Andrew's return less likely than ever after nightmare new year https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67884357

I love that headline.his return is unlikely because of a nightmare new year rather than because he was involved in a sex trafficking scandal.

Poor guy.

[vblfc]

Prince Andrew's return less likely than ever after nightmare new year https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67884357

I love that headline.his return is unlikely because of a nightmare new year rather than because he was involved in a sex trafficking scandal.

It is shocking how the whole Andrew story is reported so obtusely. The media is full of avoidance of the facts. Constantly stating nothing new has been revealed and that there is no plan to look at prosecuting him.
It needs to be repeated that he was using young girls, bought by Epstein and he (via the Queen) even paid off the most outspoken of them. Why don’t they report (or speculate based on the facts) the reason why he isn’t being “reinstated” to his Royal duties.  What does the media think that reason is? They keep reporting Andrew denies the accusations - of course he does, but nobody believes him.  Stop fannying around the fat entitled twat and tell it how it is.

[disgraced cake]

Prince Andrew's return less likely than ever after nightmare new year https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67884357

I love that headline.his return is unlikely because of a nightmare new year rather than because he was involved in a sex trafficking scandal.

They've made it sound like he's a manager in trouble after a string of poor results

[BarryCrocker]

It is shocking how the whole Andrew story is reported so obtusely. The media is full of avoidance of the facts. Constantly stating nothing new has been revealed and that there is no plan to look at prosecuting him.

Whilst I agree with regards to your comments about the media, I would have expected some of alternative news sites getting out there on their own with some sort of scoop. Besides having a major headline they'd could prove that the MSM is colluding to bury the story.

[TipTopKop]

Court documents allege sex tapes taken of Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and Sir Richard Branson by Jeffrey Epstein
Sky News

Sarah Ransome, who says she was a victim of Epstein, wrote in emails to a reporter in 2016 outlining claims the Duke of York, the ex-US president and the billionaire businessman were filmed having sex with her unnamed friend on separate occasions by the paedophile US financier.

[Crosby Nick]

They've made it sound like he's a manager in trouble after a string of poor results

Graham Rix maybe?

[lobsterboy]

Was reading some of the articles this morning and clicked on a link to Andrew's settlement with Virginia Giuffre. I know/assume this was well covered in the news back then, but silence was bought (seems for for £12 million from the Queen’s cash drawer). So this was paid indirectly by the British public essentially (I guess). It’s interesting how such a payment hushes up the narrative - So even though it all was publicized, can’t hurt to keep reminding the public what they are getting for their money and what £12million can buy a naughty Royal these days.

Actually it was very likely paid directly by us.
Cameron brought in a law/act that would force the public to make up any shortfall in the queens accounts each year. In the year of Andrews pay out her accounts were short by 12 million. This was made up by the tax payer.
Again, yet more socialism for the richest.

[BlackandWhitePaul]

Has Andy Windsor had the cuffs slapped on him yet?

[So… Howard Philips]

Court documents allege sex tapes taken of Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and Sir Richard Branson by Jeffrey Epstein
Sky News

Sarah Ransome, who says she was a victim of Epstein, wrote in emails to a reporter in 2016 outlining claims the Duke of York, the ex-US president and the billionaire businessman were filmed having sex with her unnamed friend on separate occasions by the paedophile US financier.

And Ransome then goes on to say;

“New Yorker article, released in 2019, reported Ms Ransome admitted "she had invented the tapes to draw attention to Epstein's behaviour, and to make him believe that she had 'evidence that would come out if he harmed me'".

So not exactly a smolking gun