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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2013, 03:29:01 pm »
Simple row - he tells her to put her medals on the table, she tells him to put his toes on the table...happens all the time...
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Re: Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #81 on: February 14, 2013, 03:51:19 pm »
Interesting how people are willing to jump to the defence of someone they don't know, just because he is an athlete. It doesn't mean he isn't capable of being an utter c*nt, who might have beat his girlfriend up and finally murdered her.

Shouldnt really speculate either way. However if he is guilty, fuck him, lock him up and throw away the key.

Just wait to hear what the story is before speculating. People just hope it was a terrible accident, as they would for anyone under the circumstances. No ones gonna defend him if its murder.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #83 on: February 14, 2013, 04:34:59 pm »
Jesus, some people really are jumping the gun here (no pun intended)

What happened to innocent until proven guilty, the Media doesn't really help either, News are more rumours and speculation than facts, fucking bollocks!

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #84 on: February 14, 2013, 04:35:40 pm »
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #85 on: February 14, 2013, 04:41:43 pm »
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2013, 05:12:14 pm »
Maybe she was a replicant?
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2013, 05:43:28 pm »
Sad news RIP Reeva Steenkamp
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #88 on: February 14, 2013, 05:53:42 pm »
Jesus, some people really are jumping the gun here (no pun intended)

What happened to innocent until proven guilty, the Media doesn't really help either, News are more rumours and speculation than facts, fucking bollocks!

Spot on mate.

All I have to say at this point is my thoughts are with Reeva and her loved ones.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #89 on: February 14, 2013, 07:18:58 pm »
Yeah don't know the exact details, but on the face of it don't think police would charge him with murder unless it was fairly conclusive. Bearing in mind that the police also said they don't know where the whole intruder idea came from, that seems to have been purely press speculation.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #90 on: February 14, 2013, 08:34:40 pm »
RIP Reeva Steenkamp

Some of his previous tweets and past comments are now being studied in detail. Deadspin in particular has been breaking things down to look for clues. They also link to this New York Times interview at Pistorius' house that has this segment

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We made it back to his house, which is built in a Mediterranean style inside a gated, hillside community. His three dogs greeted us. The house is expansive, with a dining room big enough to fit a table that seats 16. The bookshelves in his living room contain mostly biographies — Mandela, Marley, Dylan, Beckham, Salvador Dalí, Steve Jobs — as well an account of the Bernie Madoff scandal and numerous volumes on rugby and auto racing.

Pistorius lives in the house with a friend from high school, an engineer who moonlights as a mixed-martial-arts fighter. Pistorius had recently broken off a relationship with his longtime girlfriend, though another young woman was visiting when we got there. As he put together lunch for all of us — fruit smoothies, breaded chicken fillets he pulled from the refrigerator — he mentioned that a security alarm in the house had gone off the previous night, and he had grabbed his gun and tiptoed downstairs. (It turned out to be nothing.)

I asked what kind of gun he owned, which he seemed to take as an indication of my broader interest in firearms. I had to tell him I didn’t own any. “But you’ve shot one, right?” Actually, I hadn’t. Suddenly, I felt like one of those characters in a movie who must be schooled on how to be more manly.

“We should go to the range,” he said. He fetched his 9-millimeter handgun and two boxes of ammunition. We got back in the car and drove to a nearby firing range, where he instructed me on proper technique. Pistorius was a good coach. A couple of my shots got close to the bull’s-eye, which delighted him. “Maybe you should do this more,” he said. “If you practiced, I think you could be pretty deadly.” I asked him how often he came to the range. “Just sometimes when I can’t sleep,” he said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/magazine/oscar-pistorius.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

and from The Guardian

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The eNews Channel Africa said it understood Pistorius had told police it was a "horrible accident" and would plead in court that he mistook Steenkamp for a burglar. Such incidents are not unknown in a country where crime is high and fear of crime even higher. In 2004, for example, the rugby player Rudi Visagie shot dead his 19-year-old daughter after he mistakenly thought she was a robber trying to steal his car in the middle of the night. But police have played down the theory in this case.

After questioning on Thursday, Pistorius left a police station accompanied by officers. He looked down as photographers took pictures, the hood on his grey sweatshirt pulled up, concealing most of his face. Sources said Pistorius had requested the court hearing to take place as soon as possible. But it was postponed until Friday to give forensic investigators time to carry out their work, said Medupe Simasiku, a spokesman for the prosecution.

Pistorius's father said his son was sad following the shooting. "I don't know nothing," Henke Pistorius told SABC radio news. "It will be extremely obnoxious and rude to speculate. I don't know the facts. If anyone makes a statement, it will have to be Oscar. He's sad at the moment."

Pistorius' former coach Andrea Gianni said he hoped it was "just a tragic accident". He told the Associated Press in Italy: "No matter how bad the situation was, Oscar always stayed calm and positive. Whenever he was tired or nervous he was still extremely nice to people. I never saw him violent."

Six months ago Pistorius – who had both his legs amputated below the knee before his first birthday because of a congenital condition – made history when he became the first double-amputee track athlete to compete in the Olympics. He was named by Time Magazine last year as one of the world's 100 most influential people. Yet his compelling story has been undercut by a personal life of tabloid fodder.

In February 2009 he crashed a speed boat on South Africa's Vaal river, breaking his nose, jaw and several ribs. Witnesses said he had been drinking before the crash and officers found alcohol in the wreckage, though they acknowledged they had not conducted a blood test on Pistorius.

In November last year, a newspaper claimed Pistorius "threatened to break the legs" of the friend of a man whom he believed had slept with his then girlfriend. The police became involved before the dispute was eventually resolved.

His colourful love life is never far from the gossip columns. Recent media interviews with Pistorius revealed that he kept an assortment of weapons in his home. "Cricket and baseball bats lay behind the door, a pistol by his bed and a machine gun by a window," Britain's Daily Mail noted in a profile.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/14/oscar-pistorius-murder-girlfriends-shooting
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #91 on: February 14, 2013, 08:53:27 pm »
Absolute madness, so many questions and speculations still. I think i'll hold thoughts until a bit more comes out!
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #92 on: February 14, 2013, 08:56:57 pm »
He shot her four times in the head.

If it was so dark you could not recognise your blonde haired girlfriend, getting off four head shots is pretty amazing shooting.

Would you be shooting a burglar in the head, a headshot is to kill?
Or would you be trying to disable the burglar?

Not convinced and the police don't seem to be either.



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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #93 on: February 14, 2013, 08:58:09 pm »
He shot her four times in the head.

If it was so dark you could not recognise your blonde haired girlfriend, getting off four head shots is pretty amazing shooting.

Would you be shooting a burglar in the head, a headshot is to kill?
Or would you be trying to disable the burglar?

Not convinced and the police don't seem to be either.



Been reported one to the head, two to the body and one in the arm.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #94 on: February 14, 2013, 09:04:05 pm »
He shot her four times in the head.
You're jumping to conclusions based on something completely incorrect.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #95 on: February 14, 2013, 09:04:36 pm »
Shocking news.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #96 on: February 14, 2013, 10:03:26 pm »
I'm sure this could've been an accident but let's consider the likely scenarios:

- if you're going to surprise your boyfriend on Valentines Day are you likely to turn up at 4am?
- was she drinking?
- is he likely to be asleep at that time?
- if he is why not turn on the lights?
- if the lighs are on how could he not see that it was his girlfriend?
- was she wearing something that could conceal her identity?
- if he's not asleep, would you be tip-toeing around in the dark in a country well-known for intruders entering expensive homes?
- would you be tip-toeing around in the dark at 4am in the morning if you knew your boyfriend had firearms in his house and regularly went to the range?
- if you suspect an intruder, and it's dark do you not call out and warn them that you have a gun?
- if you have a gun and it's dark do you shoot first and ask questions later or turn on a light and prepare to shoot?
- if you're well practiced in the use of firearms, do you shoot to kill or shoot to disable?

I'm not saying that he murdered his girlfriend but I'm not sure it adds up.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #97 on: February 14, 2013, 10:29:42 pm »
See you guys saying how can this be a mistake, don't understand south africa. This is not the first time this has happened involving an athlete

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/may/25/southafrica.rugbyunion

This rugby player shot his daughter dead.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #98 on: February 14, 2013, 10:42:55 pm »
See you guys saying how can this be a mistake, don't understand south africa. This is not the first time this has happened involving an athlete

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/may/25/southafrica.rugbyunion

This rugby player shot his daughter dead.


Did the police treat that case as a murder and charge him with it?
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #99 on: February 14, 2013, 10:44:20 pm »
See you guys saying how can this be a mistake, don't understand south africa. This is not the first time this has happened involving an athlete

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/may/25/southafrica.rugbyunion

This rugby player shot his daughter dead.
I'm aware of this, but how on Earth does this isolated tragic accident mean that it's any more or less likely that this is also an accident?

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #100 on: February 14, 2013, 11:19:01 pm »
Did the police treat that case as a murder and charge him with it?
Yes they did, he was charged with murder.

5thBenitle, in south africa it';s not actually an isolated tragic case.

It's a highlighted case because that player was an athlete, it's happened within other families. Let's see if Oscar did murder the lady
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #101 on: February 14, 2013, 11:20:37 pm »
Let's see if Oscar did murder the lady
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #102 on: February 15, 2013, 12:15:28 am »
Dont really understand the need for jokes a few hours after she died... Seems way more of them in this thread compared to other recent tragic events on this section.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #103 on: February 15, 2013, 12:20:25 am »
Dont really understand the need for jokes a few hours after she died... Seems way more of them in this thread compared to other recent tragic events on this section.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #104 on: February 15, 2013, 01:39:26 am »
Who cares how many times he may have shot her.

Why did he shoot at all when he may have not know who he was shooting



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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #105 on: February 15, 2013, 02:42:58 am »
I'm aware of this, but how on Earth does this isolated tragic accident mean that it's any more or less likely that this is also an accident?

Read what he said... they're both athletes!!

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #106 on: February 15, 2013, 06:53:50 am »
See you guys saying how can this be a mistake, don't understand south africa. This is not the first time this has happened involving an athlete

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/may/25/southafrica.rugbyunion

This rugby player shot his daughter dead.

The father was in the wrong, he shot his daughter while she was in the family car and not in the house. You are only allowed to shoot if your life is in danger or if an assailant is threatening you in your house. Your not allowed to shoot someone for simply being on your property or shoot someone in the back.   

The two situations are completely different. The rugby player shooting his daughter can't be used as a defence for what Oscar did or as an example of crime being out of control in South Africa so don't know why it's even brought up.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #107 on: February 15, 2013, 07:54:36 am »
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I did read what he said, thanks. I know they're both athletes. So because one was an accident, the other must be also? Come off it that's ridiculous.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #108 on: February 15, 2013, 08:03:55 am »
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Beeld newspaper dedicated five full pages to the story, with its front page story, headlined "Dood agter deur [Dead behind door]", saying it understood Steenkamp was shot four times through a bathroom door.

According to the paper the police and security guards were called to his house about two hours before the shooting, after neighbours heard him and Steenkamp argue.

The police were called out a second time around 03:00 after neighbours heard gunshots, reported Beeld, quoting an unnamed Silver Woods estate resident
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Steenkamp-shot-through-bathroom-door-20130215

Things are looking worse with every news report. It sad that this girl had to lose her life this way. I however don't understand how woman don't pick up that they're dating or living with a psycho or leave a relationship when the abuse starts.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #109 on: February 15, 2013, 08:22:28 am »
Not sure why he has a coat over his head! It's not like the whole World doesn't know what he looks like.
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Re: Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #110 on: February 15, 2013, 09:19:55 am »
Things are looking worse with every news report. It sad that this girl had to lose her life this way. I however don't understand how woman don't pick up that they're dating or living with a psycho or leave a relationship when the abuse starts.
you just have to look at Rihanna for further evidence of that

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #111 on: February 15, 2013, 09:55:20 am »
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I did read what he said, thanks. I know they're both athletes. So because one was an accident, the other must be also? Come off it that's ridiculous.

Think he was being sarcastic mate :)
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #112 on: February 15, 2013, 10:05:33 am »
Why are people even talking about the burglar theory? The police have said they have no idea where that story came from. It's more likely some media/fanboy made up the theory anyway.

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Re: Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #113 on: February 15, 2013, 10:07:24 am »
you just have to look at Rihanna for further evidence of that

Some women are just strange like that, treat them like queens and they think you're boring, then they go into abusive relationships and "but he loves me" comes out more often than not.

Either way that's not the point here, would like the know the truth, the stories are getting worse but how much is real and how much is newspaper BS is what I wanna know...

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #114 on: February 15, 2013, 10:15:39 am »
Judge: "I accede to the request by the defence for a postponement until next Tuesday." Pistorius will be kept at Brooklyn police station.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #115 on: February 15, 2013, 10:25:01 am »
Things are looking worse with every news report. It sad that this girl had to lose her life this way. I however don't understand how woman don't pick up that they're dating or living with a psycho or leave a relationship when the abuse starts.

It's biological, but none of them will admit it. There's numerous examples past and present.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #116 on: February 15, 2013, 10:28:47 am »
See you guys saying how can this be a mistake, don't understand south africa. This is not the first time this has happened involving an athlete

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/may/25/southafrica.rugbyunion

This rugby player shot his daughter dead.



Ahhh, so it's ATHLETES that are prone to shooting loved ones dead, therefore it MUST be an accident because he's an athlete and other athletes have discharged their guns at family members before.
Thanks for clearing up how this happened. Bloody athletes.

GreatEx
I did read what he said, thanks. I know they're both athletes. So because one was an accident, the other must be also? Come off it that's ridiculous.

I think Greatex was taking the piss?
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Sarcastic Net Pest and Sanctimonious Arse.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #117 on: February 15, 2013, 10:39:27 am »
Ahhh, so it's ATHLETES that are prone to shooting loved ones dead,

It's all this 'going on the B of the Bang'
I have no children on RAWK. Anyone claiming to be my daughter is a blagger trying to bask in reflected glory.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #118 on: February 15, 2013, 11:01:17 am »
So he gets arrested for shooting his girlfriend if anything this proves one thing........a man with no legs still has a better shot than Fernando Torres.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius Arrested Over Fatal Shooting of Girlfriend
« Reply #119 on: February 15, 2013, 11:06:13 am »
Ahhh, so it's ATHLETES that are prone to shooting loved ones dead, therefore it MUST be an accident because he's an athlete and other athletes have discharged their guns at family members before.
Thanks for clearing up how this happened. Bloody athletes.

I think Greatex was taking the piss?
you really do get excited and love going overboard, is this a symptom in all of your posts?

People being shot dead in South Africa is not a rare occurrence, it is common. I just pointed out that an athlete had done this before. I like how you presume I have already decided whether Oscar is innocent or guilty, I don't know as I don't know the facts. Of course it's easy to presume what you think, fucking smartarse.
Being logical is apparently not allowed, if people don't read your posts properly, it's your fault for posting. Gotta love the socialism espoused by so called socialists who act like Fascists for their little best friends on the site