Topic: So who will you vote after the debate?

[SadRed]

The other thread doesnt let you change your vote. It will be interesting to see who people will vote for after the debates. They can change their vote so we can see the swings before and after the debates...

The normalized percentages of votes between these 3 parties from the other thread (before the debate) are:

Labour : 50.8%
Lib Dems : 33.6%
Conservatives : 15.6%


Updated:

If we assume the people who voted were a random set, the swing towards Lib Dems is amazing.


Labour : 28.2 % (- 22.6 %)
Lib Dems : 59.2% (+ 25.4 %) 
Conservatives : 12.6% (- 2.8 %)


It seems to suggest a quarter of the people who watched the debate actually changed votes (towards Lib Dems, thats an assumption which I think is a fair one to make). The swings are incredible.

[Cochise]

I'm not registered to vote. Is it to late now with the election only 3 weeks away?

[Fitzy.]

I'm not registered to vote. Is it to late now with the election only 3 weeks away?

Sure you can still register - go ask at the post office.

Also, wouldn't a more interesting poll ask whether it has actually changed people's minds?

[SadRed]

Yes but I think we can see if it has changed people's minds as it will be reflected in the voting patterns of people in both the different threads.

[killer-heels]

When are the next 2 debates?

[SadRed]

When are the next 2 debates?

The next one is next thursday I think

[Mouth]

"Politics is like football for me. Labour is my team and even if you don't like a striker you don't give up supporting the whole team."

[RJH]

Yes but I think we can see if it has changed people's minds as it will be reflected in the voting patterns of people in both the different threads.

That assumes the same sets of people vote in both threads.
Plus, the options aren't the same.

As far as voting goes, the debates aren't likely to affect my decision.

[SadRed]

That assumes the same sets of people vote in both threads.
Plus, the options aren't the same.

As far as voting goes, the debates aren't likely to affect my decision.

True, but that is always the case with such polls. A sample set is assumed to be a fair representation of the whole population. 

The options arent the same because I think it is reasonable to assume that since the debate was between the 3 main parties, it is the voters of these parties that are likely to change their minds.

Plus this way, one can see the swing from one party to the other, possibly after every debate which I think would be quite cool.

[Haggis]

Monster Raving Loony Party

I'm dying to see the day when everyone goes to work on spacehoppers

[BazC]

"Politics is like football for me. Labour is my team and even if you don't like a striker you don't give up supporting the whole team."

Interesting analogy because earlier I was thinking how much I just can't associate with a party like that. It's not like I'd vote for Party X every time there's an election; I'll vote for the party which I think makes the most sense to me at the time.

[Haggis]

Interesting analogy because earlier I was thinking how much I just can't associate with a party like that. It's not like I'd vote for Party X every time there's an election; I'll vote for the party which I think makes the most sense to me at the time.

Monster Raving Loony party Manifesto 

Ok,it might be a year or two old,but.........I know who I'm voting for 

    * Refusing to sign up to the euro, but inviting the rest of Europe to join the pound.

    * Drivers can go straight over a roundabout when there's no traffic coming "to make driving through Milton Keynes more fun".

    * Traffic cops "too stupid" for normal police work to be retrained as vicars.

    * Withdrawal of MPs' £118,000 expenses allowance, and the money "in future be distributed to the poor and needy so that they can waste it instead."

    * Any MP whose constituency sells off a school playing field for development will be required to relinquish their own back garden as a replacement sports facility for the school.

    * All motorways to become massive cycle tracks instead

    * All speed cameras will be abolished and replaced by a new device fitted to cars which will automatically slow down to the speed limit when driven though an infra-red beam.

    * The introduction of a 99p coin to "save on change".

[Elzar]

    * The introduction of a 99p coin to "save on change".

Why hasn't this been done?

[KERRYKOP]

"Politics is like football for me. Labour is my team and even if you don't like a striker you don't give up supporting the whole team."

Great to see democracy at work......

[richiedouglas]

Did anyone else think that the set looked it they'd found it in the 1980's store cupboard. It looked ridiculous!

I think it was fairly easy to sum up the debate:

Clegg - I'm not like you two dickheads
Brown - Err I've made mistakes but I'm changing things
Cameron - I'm not gonna stick my neck out on anything but if you vote for me I'll make everyone redundant and tax your balls off

On a seperate topic - why the hell do we need trident. No country will ever nuke another country in the future, definitely not us.

I'd say I was more impressed with clegg but still might not vote for him. Brown was ok and Cameron looked a tit (but I dont like him anyway)

[Veinticinco de Mayo]

My vote from the first poll isn't an option in this poll.

I suspect electoral fraud.

[Plinkyplonk]

Did anyone else think that the set looked it they'd found it in the 1980's store cupboard. It looked ridiculous!

I think it was fairly easy to sum up the debate:

Clegg - I'm not like you two dickheads
Brown - Err I've made mistakes but I'm changing things
Cameron - I'm not gonna stick my neck out on anything but if you vote for me I'll make everyone redundant and tax your balls off

On a seperate topic - why the hell do we need trident. No country will ever nuke another country in the future, definitely not us.

I'd say I was more impressed with clegg but still might not vote for him. Brown was ok and Cameron looked a tit (but I dont like him anyway)

But didn't he say he was going to change all these important things when he first went through the door??  I don't believe him at all and think it'll be a bad mistake keeping him in....

My vote for the first time since Blair is going to Clegg.... he didn't come across as pathetic as the other two ALWAYS do, plus he put across some very good and REACHABLE ideas..... 

[BIGdavalad]

On a seperate topic - why the hell do we need trident. No country will ever nuke another country in the future, definitely not us.

How did you get the time machine working in the end?

[AriGold]

My vote from the first poll isn't an option in this poll.

I suspect electoral fraud.

It's ok, BNP won't win anyway.


I went for Lib Dems again.

[Dr Cornwallis]

I went for Lib Dems again.

Same, though the LibDems seat in this part of Cornwall has been safe since 1997, we're ahead of the curve down here, or we're so slow that the curve has caught us up again.

[KERRYKOP]

Same, though the LibDems seat in this part of Cornwall has been safe since 1997, we're ahead of the curve down here, or we're so slow that the curve has caught us up again.

Iv noticed that, any particular reason why the Lib Dems are very strong in Cornwall?

[rotistgeil]

I abstain

[Veinticinco de Mayo]

Iv noticed that, any particular reason why the Lib Dems are very strong in Cornwall?

It's to do with the high background radiation in the granite.  Turns everyone orange.

[KERRYKOP]

It's to do with the high background radiation in the granite.  Turns everyone orange.

I know what you mean a lot of that in Northern Ireland as well.

[Gus 1855]

Does anyone really change thier mind based on one rehearsed debate. Shame on you if you do!

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Monster Raving Loony party Manifesto 

Ok,it might be a year or two old,but.........I know who I'm voting for 

    * Refusing to sign up to the euro, but inviting the rest of Europe to join the pound.

    * Drivers can go straight over a roundabout when there's no traffic coming "to make driving through Milton Keynes more fun".

    * Traffic cops "too stupid" for normal police work to be retrained as vicars.

    * Withdrawal of MPs' £118,000 expenses allowance, and the money "in future be distributed to the poor and needy so that they can waste it instead."

    * Any MP whose constituency sells off a school playing field for development will be required to relinquish their own back garden as a replacement sports facility for the school.

    * All motorways to become massive cycle tracks instead

    * All speed cameras will be abolished and replaced by a new device fitted to cars which will automatically slow down to the speed limit when driven though an infra-red beam.

    * The introduction of a 99p coin to "save on change".

They are gonna get my vote

[SadRed]

A 60% vote for Lib Dem is incredible, especially as almost 50% people were prepared to vote for Labour earlier. Most swings are from Labour to Lib Dems, I think a lot of conservative voters have remained unchanged. However, it could be due to the fact the most of the people here are Labour supporters, hence the swings are from Labour.

Some polls recently published in papers:
ComRes: Conservatives on 31%, the Lib Dems on 29% and Labour on 27%. 
ICM for Telegraph : Conservatives on 34%, Labour on 29% and the Lib Dems on 27%


It will be interesting to see if Nick Clegg lives up to the expectation in the next polls. However, trends from American debates seem to suggest that once people make up their minds after the first debate, the same inclination lingers on and unless someone makes a big mistake, there isnt much change after the first debate.

The poll can be reset after the 2nd debate to see people's reactions.

[bryanod]

Does anyone really change thier mind based on one rehearsed debate. Shame on you if you do!

Don't worry 60% of them will change back after the next, and 60% of them will further change after the next.

Then 60% wont bother voting.

[mildale]

Interesting analogy because earlier I was thinking how much I just can't associate with a party like that. It's not like I'd vote for Party X every time there's an election; I'll vote for the party which I think makes the most sense to me at the time.

Yeah, I agree with this. The missus sticks with the one party and I just can't understand it considering how bad some of the leaders of that party have been, I'm not going to say what party. I was going to vote Lib Dem before the debate and I still will.

[anfieldpurch]

Conservative, only one i can see changing this country

[The Bill Hicks Appreciation Society]

"Politics is like football for me. Labour is my team and even if you don't like a striker you don't give up supporting the whole team."

Whose quote was that cos it's the most ridiculous fucking thing I have ever heard in my life.

[RJH]

Whose quote was that cos it's the most ridiculous fucking thing I have ever heard in my life.

Noel Gallagher.

[killer-heels]

Won't be voting.

[Strummer77]

Noel Gallagher.

Explains it.

Does anyone really change thier mind based on one rehearsed debate. Shame on you if you do!

What about the thousands of people, maybe taking a more passive interest than yourself, who had no idea where the Liberal Democrats stood on these issues and were impressed when their opinions were showcased?

[Mouth]

Whose quote was that cos it's the most ridiculous fucking thing I have ever heard in my life.

It is overly simplistic, but there is something in it. I wouldnt be voting for Gordon Brown, I'd be voting for the labour party, it might be a bit lost and do things I dont agree with, but at its core it is still the party which has my best interests at heart. The Tory party has never and will never represent me or have my best interests at heart, no tv debate or new leader is ever going to change that. Actually I would actually vote for Gordon Brown, I think he is more old labour than new, I met Jack Jones once, and he considered Brown to be a good lad, which is enough for me. Anyone who is sucked into this 'Gordon Brown bad, Gordon Brown idiot, Gordon must go, everything get better once he do' mentality is a fucking moron. Anyone who thinks that the situation that we are in right now wouldnt of happened under the tories and have been a good deal worse, is also a fucking moron. Anyone who votes for the tories in the coming election under the impression that the tories will do a better job or make things any better, is worse than a fucking moron.

[The Bill Hicks Appreciation Society]

It is overly simplistic, but there is something in it. I wouldnt be voting for Gordon Brown, I'd be voting for the labour party, it might be a bit lost and do things I dont agree with, but at its core it is still the party which has my best interests at heart. The Tory party has never and will never represent me or have my best interests at heart, no tv debate or new leader is ever going to change that. Actually I would actually vote for Gordon Brown, I think he is more old labour than new, I met Jack Jones once, and he considered Brown to be a good lad, which is enough for me. Anyone who is sucked into this 'Gordon Brown bad, Gordon Brown idiot, Gordon must go, everything get better once he do' mentality is a fucking moron. Anyone who thinks that the situation that we are in right now wouldnt of happened under the tories and have been a good deal worse, is also a fucking moron. Anyone who votes for the tories in the coming election under the impression that the tories will do a better job or make things any better, is worse than a fucking moron.

Using the same analogy if the Yanks decided to stay on, sacked Rafa, brought in Mourinho and built the new Stadium in London would you still support the club? The only thing left would be the name and as the adage goes a rose by any other name...

If a party comes along and has what I believe are sound ideas to improve the country, that I believe will make a difference? it doesn't matter whether they're called Labour, Conservative or Monster Raving Looney... although admittedly one of those is unlikely ever to suggest any good ideas for the improvement of the nation. I'll leave who that is, open to interpretation.

[Garstonite]

Lib Dems. Argh! Why bother?

[electricghost]

I'm amazed that there has been such a change based upon 1 tv debate.

If we had these debates a few years ago we might have ended up with William Hague as Prime Minister as he used to give a bit of a beating to Tony Blair most weeks during Prime Ministers questions.

[Grushko]

Conservative, only one i can see changing this country

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