Topic: COVID-19:VERIFIED news sources, 0 politishit, 0 CONSPIRACY SHITE

[demain]

If it’s been around since November, then surely it’s been around in other countries longer than thought too? There’s flights between wuhan and other global cities.

It's definitely possible.

They are searching for Patient Zero at the moment and there are reports of the first case being traced to as far back as November 17. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3074991/coronavirus-chinas-first-confirmed-covid-19-case-traced-back

[Red Beret]

The old Paddington Comp (Archbishop Blanche) that has recently been demolished was designed so that it could be used as an emergency hospital. Wide corridors and doors etc.  Built at the height of the Cold War.

Given the crumbling state of the Royal, and the New Royal years away from service, knocking it down may have been a mistake.

Tbf it's been a few years since they knocked it down, they could hardly have predicted this.

Wonder if there is any part of the new hospital that could be converted to emergency use under the circumstances? Doubt it.

[12C]

You assume journalists have some sort of intelligence then you get one of the first questions, 'are people expected to stay away from their Mothers on Mothers Day and will you be seeing yours?'.  Unbelievable.  Out of all the things to ask after the raft of announcements.

They are only asking what their readers want to know.

What has impressed is the BBC news feature where the reporter answers questions sent in by the public on video. She tries to get the facts across and clarify misguided rumour and falsehoods. Top journalism.

Pity they didn’t do that with Brexit, it would have served a better purpose than going into a greasy spoon cafe in stoke and broadcasting the stupidity being expressed there as facts.

[redbyrdz]

The amount of food that will go to waste is sickening, I'm hoping there are a lot of cases of salmonella and gastroenteritis when people eat food that's gone off.

Was thinking that, next week the bins will be overflowing with food that hasn't even been opened. Wonder if the fuckers will learn, or if they will just restock what they are throwing out.

[12C]

So less than £20 a week extra for people living on £70 I imagine the extra electric will cost a bit if you have to stay in for weeks.

Fortunately the light nights are here. I’m not being facetious- it’s not much but it may help

[Fordy]

I have it lads, been told to stay away from work etc, seems like only a mild case, cold like symptoms, headaches, aches and pains, severe lethargy, I watch those videos of those poor people on ventilation etc and feel equal pity and shame, for getting off so lightly.

Have you been tested for it?

Urgently need this anti body.

Rest up mate, 14 days and get better soon.

[12C]

It's a matter of time before he's in the top job isn't it. I'm no tory voter but I found that seriously impressive and exactly what was needed.

Yep. Amazing what a bit of socialism can look like when not being attacked by the press

[Jiminy Cricket]

I've been working at home all week, sounds great right? But in reality I find it really intense, I have an office setup for work and start really early, sometimes at 6am, as I would going into the office. I achieve alot but also get mithered alot with Skype calls and emails etc. When working at home I quite often forget to eat and drink because I just get into the zone. Anyway by Thursday night I'd had enough, logged out and switched everything off and booked a flexiday today (Friday). Now that my managers have my personal mobile number for 'duty of care' reasons I was getting mithered today, even though I'm not in work.

I needed to get out and went to play golf with some mates, they've banned us taking the pins out and using the rakes in bunkers (they are GUR) due to the virus. We no longer shake hands and just touch clubs, it was a godsend to get out into the open air and do some exercise.

Maybe you should log each and every incident (and back up the phone data) where you are contacted on your days off for no good reason in case you need it down the line. Everyone is already stressed enough - I am sure you can do without your time off being needlessly interrupted.

Perhaps you could set up up some reminders on your computer to take some breaks. I have the opposite problem - I am too easily distracted (posting here and the like).

[Qston]

They are only asking what their readers want to know.

What has impressed is the BBC news feature where the reporter answers questions sent in by the public on video. She tries to get the facts across and clarify misguided rumour and falsehoods. Top journalism.

Pity they didn’t do that with Brexit, it would have served a better purpose than going into a greasy spoon cafe in stoke and broadcasting the stupidity being expressed there as facts.

It is times like these that perhaps people will realise that the BBC is a much needed public institution. Yes there are issues sometimes on politics and perceived bias etc but generally it is for the greater good

[Jiminy Cricket]

No, one parent. Don’t share rumours on the back of something you’ve heard. That’s what lead to a lot of the panic buying. I’ve had messages from mates saying they’ve heard this and that from govt sources. When I actually do know someone who has had meetings with the chancellor so know it’s all bollocks.

[Wabaloolah]

Tunbridge Wells

Manager Anthony Price closed the doors of the Bedford pub in Tunbridge Wells at 20:00 GMT. Staff took over £500 in their last hour and were forced to turn away dozens of people shortly before closing, he said.

The owners had considered closing earlier in the week, but had waited to receive the government order to close "because we didn't know whether the insurance companies would cover us".

"It was pay day for the staff today, so we wanted to make sure they got paid and made sure they were going to be alright for at least a month," he said.

Mr Price expects the pub to be closed for 12 weeks, but said it was "all up in the air".

Forcing pubs to close was the wrong decision, he said.

"I think the public are very resilient, especially the British, we are known for our stiff upper lip. I think, let the public decide what they want to do.

"If the older generation, the younger generation, they want to go to bars and restaurants, let them. At least give them the option.

"By me working, that's down to me, that's my risk. If the older generation want to come in for a beer, that's at their risk.

"I understand why they've done it and hopefully it brings a quicker resolution to the end of the virus, but I just think let people do what they want to do. It's locking people up for a minimum of 12 weeks, it is like prison.

"What you see on the news in other countries, you don't expect it to happen in England, you don't expect it to happen in Royal Tunbridge Wells."

This is why the pubs had to close with dicks like this as landlords

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51978261

[12C]

I needed to get a few things from Aldi and Home Bargains earlier, loads of old people in there, not distancing themselves from anyone. I was leaving room at the till between me and the person in front and people walked right past me through the gap, inches away.

Hahah. It’s like on the motorway when you leave the correct gap between you and the guy in front. There is always a dickhead who pulls out into the space.

[Nick110581]

The government has said peak May till June if I recall.

The same Government who have made no decisive decisions all week.

Stats suggest we are going to see large deaths earlier than May.

[Wabaloolah]

It is times like these that perhaps people will realise that the BBC is a much needed public institution. Yes there are issues sometimes on politics and perceived bias etc but generally it is for the greater good

those on the right think there's a left wing bias, those on the left think it's a right wing bias, probably means they are actually doing their job despite what people think

[12C]

Seen footage of that Weatherspoons brexit owner on earlier (before these announcements) arguing unsurprisingly for pubs to remain open.  Wonder how he is now?

His carpets are so sticky the virus can’t escape from the floor

[Wabaloolah]

The same Government who have made no decisive decisions all week.

Stats suggest we are going to see large deaths earlier than May.

the fact that people are regularly still travelling in and out of London on public transport to all parts of the country is very concerning indeed

[12C]

It should be okay. The Government are clueless and acting on the fly. As soon as it is pointed out to them they will come up with something in the next few days. They come up with something the flaws are pointed out and then they react.

I don’t think they are acting on the fly.
I think they had a large raft of measures ready to go at the beginning of this week
They are drip feeding them a bit each day to make it appear they are doing something and giving them the chance to “show leadership” at each news conference.

[Qston]

those on the right think there's a left wing bias, those on the left think it's a right wing bias, probably means they are actually doing their job despite what people think

For me....nail on head

[Gerry Attrick]

those on the right think there's a left wing bias, those on the left think it's a right wing bias, probably means they are actually doing their job despite what people think

The BBC's political coverage is appallingly bad these days. On matters that are of great importance and don't depend up on them interviewing idiots to provide 'balance' they're still the best in the UK.

[Nick110581]

the fact that people are regularly still travelling in and out of London on public transport to all parts of the country is very concerning indeed

It’s been inconsistent since day one.

Some people / Companies have respected it and some haven’t. Some simply have no choice but to work.

You have a choice to avoid pubs though and that’s obvious to most.

[Trada]

Blimey, the Skynews report today is a lot scarier than yesterdays, In the hospitals intensive care unit from where they are doing the report only one person has come out alive and that was touch and go for a few weeks.

And they say people are getting younger and younger lots in their 30s and 40s now.

The video report is here.It's grim viewing

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-everyone-dies-alone-heartbreak-at-the-italian-hospital-on-the-brink-of-collapse-11961130

[Elmo!]

those on the right think there's a left wing bias, those on the left think it's a right wing bias, probably means they are actually doing their job despite what people think

It could mean that, or it could mean one side is wrong, or being disingenuous, or it could mean some parts of have one bias, and other parts have another bias. In other words you can't read anything into that at all.

[Sharado]

you don't expect it to happen in Royal Tunbridge Wells."

Middle Class exceptionalism in one quote.

[jillcwhomever]

the fact that people are regularly still travelling in and out of London on public transport to all parts of the country is very concerning indeed

What exactly are people supposed to do if they don't drive and there are not people who can take them into work? We've been told we have to work, therefore there is no other way than to use public transport.

[Red Beret]

"I think the public are very resilient, especially the British, we are known for our stiff upper lip. I think, let the public decide what they want to do.

"If the older generation, the younger generation, they want to go to bars and restaurants, let them. At least give them the option.

"By me working, that's down to me, that's my risk. If the older generation want to come in for a beer, that's at their risk.

"I understand why they've done it"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51978261

Except that he doesn't.

Honest to fucking gawd this fucking attitude pisses me off. Bet he'd be happy with calling an ambulance because he can't breathe and being told, "sorry, we're too busy treating people who didn't knowingly or willingly take stupid and unnecessary risks with their health, so we're going to leave you to die. Keep a stiff upper lip.though, mate! You knew the risks and decided what you wanted to do after all."

[RideTheWalrus]

Okay lads, sorry if this is the wrong place to post it, but I really need some help.

My place had to close last night, I'm on a zero hours contract. Do I get 80% of my average hours earned or what?

I applied for temp work in ASDA, and they said i'll be doing probably two nights a week. I'd assume I wouldn't get both wages from ASDA and my own place, so it's one or the other right?

If I get 80% of my average hours earned, then it'll obviously be better I not do the temp work with ASDA right?

[Statto Red]

What exactly are people supposed to do if they don't drive and there are not people who can take them into work? We've been told we have to work, therefore there is no other way than to use public transport.

Exactly, the policy is, don't travel if your journey is not essential, traveling to/from work is essential if the workplace isn't on lockdown.

[12C]

Tbf it's been a few years since they knocked it down, they could hardly have predicted this.

Wonder if there is any part of the new hospital that could be converted to emergency use under the circumstances? Doubt it.

Was just pointing out a little known fact. As you say, no one could have predicted this.

The new hospital is rumoured to be that unsound it will have to be virtually demolished.
Apart from worries about asbestos, they found severe structural faults.

[Gerry Attrick]

Okay lads, sorry if this is the wrong place to post it, but I really need some help.

My place had to close last night, I'm on a zero hours contract. Do I get 80% of my average hours earned or what?

I applied for temp work in ASDA, and they said i'll be doing probably two nights a week. I'd assume I wouldn't get both wages from ASDA and my own place, so it's one or the other right?

If I get 80% of my average hours earned, then it'll obviously be better I not do the temp work with ASDA right?

I'm interested in knowing this too. I'm going to be off until the government says otherwise and will be getting paid. Wondered if I'd be able to do another job in the mean time, such as supermarket work to keep me occupied and still get paid from my contracted job.

[Kenny Red]

The North Koreans handling the virus in their own unique way.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-51984344

This will be their version of a cry for help to get attention. Problem is no other nation bar China and S Korea will be listening.

China will help them out no doubt, as its within thier interests if they end up with an unholy epidemic, which could spread across the border.

[12C]

It is times like these that perhaps people will realise that the BBC is a much needed public institution. Yes there are issues sometimes on politics and perceived bias etc but generally it is for the greater good

It has been under a lot of pressure politically from the right. They have packed its board with Tories and have maintained a smear campaign accusing it of left wing bias (with all those Cameron appointees on the board?)
Given that a lot of its “star” journalists are products of the elite public school/Oxbridge system (Nick Robinson Et al.) it is not surprising to see the political reporting skewed.
The current output is the BBC at its best, living up to its role to educate and inform

[RideTheWalrus]

I'm interested in knowing this too. I'm going to be off until the government says otherwise and will be getting paid. Wondered if I'd be able to do another job in the mean time, such as supermarket work to keep me occupied and still get paid from my contracted job.

I have absolutely no idea what's best to do, and I've trawled the internet looking for answers, and I still don't know what's best to do!

[12C]

Tunbridge Wells

Manager Anthony Price closed the doors of the Bedford pub in Tunbridge Wells at 20:00 GMT. Staff took over £500 in their last hour and were forced to turn away dozens of people shortly before closing, he said.

The owners had considered closing earlier in the week, but had waited to receive the government order to close "because we didn't know whether the insurance companies would cover us".

"It was pay day for the staff today, so we wanted to make sure they got paid and made sure they were going to be alright for at least a month," he said.

Mr Price expects the pub to be closed for 12 weeks, but said it was "all up in the air".

Forcing pubs to close was the wrong decision, he said.

"I think the public are very resilient, especially the British, we are known for our stiff upper lip. I think, let the public decide what they want to do.

"If the older generation, the younger generation, they want to go to bars and restaurants, let them. At least give them the option.

"By me working, that's down to me, that's my risk. If the older generation want to come in for a beer, that's at their risk.

"I understand why they've done it and hopefully it brings a quicker resolution to the end of the virus, but I just think let people do what they want to do. It's locking people up for a minimum of 12 weeks, it is like prison.

"What you see on the news in other countries, you don't expect it to happen in England, you don't expect it to happen in Royal Tunbridge Wells."

This is why the pubs had to close with dicks like this as landlords

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51978261

This is an example of how the message from government has been received.

“The only people it kills are the old.
The young are fine it will not kill them.”

[Millie]

I have absolutely no idea what's best to do, and I've trawled the internet looking for answers, and I still don't know what's best to do!

My son is in the same position - works in a pub.  Doesn't know what to do for the best.

[Trada]

Just got a reply ftom Tescos on Twitter.


Fanxxxxtastic-Trada
‏ @Fanxxxxtastic
Mar 19


@sainsburys @asda @Tesco @LidlGB @IcelandFoods

Something needs to be done to make sure NHS staff etc can get groceries, reading so many posts of nurses and doctors etc finishing their shifts and being met with empty shelves.


Tesco
‏Verified account @Tesco
Replying to @Fanxxxxtastic

Hello. We're going to introduce a special hour in our large stores and metros in Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland for Tesco colleagues and NHS workers as a thank you for all they are doing. This will start Sunday 22nd March. 1/4
10:44 AM - 21 Mar 2020

These customers and colleagues can come to our large stores one hour before the usual store opening time every Sunday, and will be able to browse the store and select your shopping before the checkouts open. Please just bring a form of work ID. 2/4

We'll be asking all other customers to be respectful of this and to shop during the usual Sunday opening hours. 3/4

No transactions can be put through checkouts until the store officially opens. This gives NHS staff and Tesco group colleagues the opportunity to browse and fill their basket/trolley ahead of the official store opening hours. TY - Jen 4/4

[24/7]

Tunbridge Wells

I stopped reading at that point......

[RideTheWalrus]

My son is in the same position - works in a pub.  Doesn't know what to do for the best.

If it goes off my average hours I'll be sound, but because I'm zero hours, and most months I earn below the PAYE tax threshold idk what to do

[12C]

The BBC's political coverage is appallingly bad these days. On matters that are of great importance and don't depend up on them interviewing idiots to provide 'balance' they're still the best in the UK.

This is spot on.
Trying to show “balance” has resulted in them using voxpops giving sound bites, with no challenge.
Some of the absolute bollocks presented on Brexit from people who didn’t have a clue, (or teeth)  was embarrassing

[24/7]

Just got a reply ftom Tescos on Twitter.

Quoted in the reddebs' Random Acts Of Kindness thread

[Kenny Red]

That makes no sense. If they are planning for everyone in your area to get it then I can't see why the government are even bothering trying to stop the spread of this thing.

I work in local government here in Merseyside. And the latest contingency planning is very, very serious and grave. As in locations identified and prepared for local temporary morgues and other such scary stuff.

That's not to say things will escalate to levels where they're needed. But preparations are being made for these extreme eventualities.