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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1640 on: October 14, 2021, 09:33:56 am »
Liverpool should have just refused to send them, ridiculous that they are not available to play for the club that pays the wages and ignore any FIFA sanctions following this. Would this have happened if it were a crucial decider to win CL or PL?

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1641 on: October 14, 2021, 09:56:25 am »
Given all the protocols in place to make sure clubs release players for internationals, I can't believe there are none that ensure that fixtures are not arranged within a certain number of days of league games resuming.

We're not the only ones affected here, but it's clear that the pendulum has swung too far in the direction of FIFA. Surely the clubs have to get together to ensure this does not happen again and while they are at it, demand a return to the 2 fixture international breaks.

It's unsustainable for clubs that bear all the expenses of players, to have them unavailable because of the actions of a body that bears none of the costs, very little of the risk, but profits hugely from playing the games.

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1642 on: October 14, 2021, 10:02:51 am »
Have Keita managed to return in one piece?

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1643 on: October 14, 2021, 10:06:08 am »
Have Keita managed to return in one piece?

Saw a video of him getting mobbed by fans as he left the hotel but I think he managed to get on the bus without one of them slide tackling him ;D
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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1644 on: October 14, 2021, 10:08:15 am »
Didn’t think they needed to quarantine.

Brazil have played in countries on the red list.

They have to quarantine, but are allowed to leave once a day.

10 days from when they land back in the UK

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1645 on: October 14, 2021, 01:10:04 pm »
International football is entirely unlovable.

Wish it would just fuck off, and get treated like some other sports and have big international competitions take place between amateur sports people only.

It's not as if anyone opts to watch international football because they think it's the highest standard available - high level club football players and coaching is infinitely better - so the reduced quality isnt really an argument

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1646 on: October 14, 2021, 01:30:15 pm »
Like the Naby Keita watch, I wonder what the International Watch looks like. Given how shit the internationals are - I'd guess a Seiko calculator watch.

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1647 on: October 14, 2021, 02:27:32 pm »
Someone said above that they have to if they return straight to England, but not if they first travel to Spain and then return to England after the Atletico game. Stupid rules, essentially.

Isn’t the fact that if they came to England they’d have to quarantine (allowed to leave once a day to train or play) and so wouldn’t be able to fly to Spain. Whereas if they fly to Spain, they don’t have to quarantine (due to Spain’s rules) and so could train and play as normal for the atletico game. They would then have to quarantine when back in the uk as per the first part of my post.

Could be wrong though!
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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1648 on: October 14, 2021, 02:51:54 pm »
Isn’t the fact that if they came to England they’d have to quarantine (allowed to leave once a day to train or play) and so wouldn’t be able to fly to Spain. Whereas if they fly to Spain, they don’t have to quarantine (due to Spain’s rules) and so could train and play as normal for the atletico game. They would then have to quarantine when back in the uk as per the first part of my post.

Could be wrong though!

That's true. Also I think the last day they've been in a red list country is the 10th so If they get back on the 21st they've not been in a red list country in the last 10 days and don't have to quarantine.

Whereas If they get back on Saturday they have to do their weird quarantine until the 26th
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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1649 on: October 14, 2021, 02:52:57 pm »
Isn’t the fact that if they came to England they’d have to quarantine (allowed to leave once a day to train or play) and so wouldn’t be able to fly to Spain. Whereas if they fly to Spain, they don’t have to quarantine (due to Spain’s rules) and so could train and play as normal for the atletico game. They would then have to quarantine when back in the uk as per the first part of my post.

Could be wrong though!

I think your first part is correct, though I don't know what the rules are in Spain. For the last part, they would have to quarantine in the UK if they came straight back because they've been in the red zone (Colombia) in the past ten days. After the Atletico game, they wouldn't have to quarantine, because the game in Colombia will by then be more than ten days in the past.

The mad part is that the ten-day quarantine in the UK is triggered by the arrival date and not the date they left the red zone. So leave Colombia on the 9th, come back to the UK on the 15th, quarantine until the 25th. Come back to the UK on the 20th, no quarantine at all.

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1650 on: October 14, 2021, 04:48:27 pm »
I think your first part is correct, though I don't know what the rules are in Spain. For the last part, they would have to quarantine in the UK if they came straight back because they've been in the red zone (Colombia) in the past ten days. After the Atletico game, they wouldn't have to quarantine, because the game in Colombia will by then be more than ten days in the past.

The mad part is that the ten-day quarantine in the UK is triggered by the arrival date and not the date they left the red zone. So leave Colombia on the 9th, come back to the UK on the 15th, quarantine until the 25th. Come back to the UK on the 20th, no quarantine at all.
Thats a shambles. How can that rule make sense to anyone ?

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1651 on: October 14, 2021, 05:43:31 pm »
Thats a shambles. How can that rule make sense to anyone ?

Have you heard of the Conservative and Unionist party?

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1652 on: October 14, 2021, 06:45:48 pm »
Well thats the thing, if all the clubs refused to send their players, maybe FIFA or Brazilian authorities would think twice in the future. The fact that we allowed the players to travel, why won't they continue to take the piss

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1653 on: October 14, 2021, 07:33:24 pm »
Saw Naby for a second in the Inside Training video released today so he's back in Liverpool in one piece!

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1654 on: October 14, 2021, 08:58:04 pm »
Does anyone have access to the Telegraph? (and mind throwing it up on here - ta)

Liverpool's red-list frustrations grow

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/10/12/liverpools-red-list-frustrations-grow-tottenham-will-have-south/

or a summary? what red-list? INjuries?
or similar to this article in Echo?   
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/every-country-red-list-those-21752744

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1655 on: October 14, 2021, 08:59:40 pm »
Well thats the thing, if all the clubs refused to send their players, maybe FIFA or Brazilian authorities would think twice in the future. The fact that we allowed the players to travel, why won't they continue to take the piss

if we stop them traveling and playing for Brazil then we piss off players & we lose them for 5 days after the last game . so they could not play vs Watford and probably AM on Tuesday night anyhow. So nothing gained. & the whole palova starts again next month

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1656 on: October 14, 2021, 09:52:17 pm »
if we stop them traveling and playing for Brazil then we piss off players & we lose them for 5 days after the last game . so they could not play vs Watford and probably AM on Tuesday night anyhow.  So nothing gained. & the whole palova starts again next month
   


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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1657 on: October 14, 2021, 09:53:32 pm »
At least CONCACAF are playing their third round of matches tonight, why CONMEBOL had to stretch it to Thursday (and why they were allowed to do so) is beyond me.

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1658 on: Yesterday at 01:38:16 am »
Fabinho starts as a DM for Brazil. Alisson on the bench.
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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1659 on: Yesterday at 02:01:32 am »
^ You watching it 4pool? How's Fab playing?

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1660 on: Yesterday at 03:56:42 am »
It looks like there are only 2 South American games in the next international break. Brazil are home to Colombia and away to Argentina. A win in the first game means Brazil will have qualified with 6 games to spare.

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1661 on: Yesterday at 04:03:44 am »
It looks like there are only 2 South American games in the next international break. Brazil are home to Colombia and away to Argentina. A win in the first game means Brazil will have qualified with 6 games to spare.

Brazil's home game against Argentina might get re-arranged for the next break.

Fab played 71 mins tonight, Alisson an unused sub.

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1662 on: Yesterday at 04:46:12 am »
^ You watching it 4pool? How's Fab playing?

Played as DM. Did his job. A few nifty passes. Picked up a yellow card just before halftime. Had a shot go to row Zed.. ;D. Got a slight knock to his right leg. But played on and didn't seem to have any effect.
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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1663 on: Yesterday at 04:59:48 am »
if we stop them traveling and playing for Brazil then we piss off players & we lose them for 5 days after the last game . so they could not play vs Watford and probably AM on Tuesday night anyhow. So nothing gained. & the whole palova starts again next month
I think the idea would be, like the last round of internationals, that when something ridiculous comes up like this that we say the players aren’t playing, and then with the backing of the premier league play them against Watford anyway. If the PL are on the clubs’ side then there’s not a lot FIFA can do because they don’t want this issue going anywhere near a court as they know they’d lose, and when they did, it’d open the floodgates for clubs refusing to release players.

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1664 on: Yesterday at 08:03:04 am »
Played as DM. Did his job. A few nifty passes. Picked up a yellow card just before halftime. Had a shot go to row Zed.. ;D. Got a slight knock to his right leg. But played on and didn't seem to have any effect.

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1665 on: Yesterday at 08:51:42 am »
Alisson an unused sub.

I know things can happen and the lad has been through a lot so him having some time in Brazil is no bad thing. But fucking honestly...

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1666 on: Yesterday at 09:22:56 am »
Fabinho starts as a DM for Brazil. Alisson on the bench.

I just knew Alisson wouldn't play this one. Two goalies sitting on the bench, just send Ali back to us early ffs!
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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1667 on: Yesterday at 09:56:49 am »
I just knew Alisson wouldn't play this one. Two goalies sitting on the bench, just send Ali back to us early ffs!
Alisson did start 2 of the 3 games for Brazil. I think it just better at this point to Send Alisson and Fabinho to Spain so they can be ready for the CL game.

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1668 on: Yesterday at 09:58:05 am »
Can’t believe there’s another int break in 3 weeks. Kill it with fire

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1669 on: Yesterday at 10:02:19 am »
Think football is reaching the point where club and international football can’t coexist. Pre-covid it was bad but this is damaging to the sport. One month they wanna take us to court to stop them playing and the next they have them played at half 1 on a Friday morning
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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1670 on: Yesterday at 10:16:12 am »
Alissons wife posted a picture of their child in an airport. I guess the Madrid option is being enacted

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« Reply #1671 on: Yesterday at 10:25:10 am »
Alissons wife posted a picture of their child in an airport. I guess the Madrid option is being enacted

Yeah, her latest insta story looks like they were landing in Madrid too I thought.
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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1672 on: Yesterday at 10:27:06 am »
Fab's wife has been there all week so defo happening

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1673 on: Yesterday at 11:26:00 am »
Jones is out tomorrow  :butt :no

They were only playing fucking Andorra U21s. No Liverpool player who's played over 50 games for the club should be playing for ressie international squads.
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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1674 on: Yesterday at 11:30:14 am »
Its easy to moan when players get injured, but Courtois was spot on what he said, players aren't robots. These pointless international games are a farce.
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« Reply #1675 on: Yesterday at 12:14:44 pm »
Its easy to moan when players get injured, but Courtois was spot on what he said, players aren't robots. These pointless international games are a farce.

Klopp has been banging this drum for a year plus. But got shouted down.

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1677 on: Yesterday at 12:42:28 pm »
I’ve completely reached the end of the line with international football now. I just have no interest in it. Football is being tragically ruined by greed and money these days. It’s so extreme now that supporters must surely be on the brink of walking away completely. Even my love of Liverpool is waning - it’s all just nonsense. The sport is fake and has no integrity anymore. Supporters are just customers supporting brands. It’s all a bit daft when you think about it.
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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1678 on: Yesterday at 12:53:45 pm »
Klopp must absolutely despise the chancers and bullshitters that are involved in running the domestic, european and world associations. Almost as much as he must despise the utter twats that spin legitimate concerns into huge stories.

The game and the media that cover it is fucking rotten to the core.

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Re: International Watch
« Reply #1679 on: Yesterday at 02:57:39 pm »
Klopp must absolutely despise the chancers and bullshitters that are involved in running the domestic, european and world associations. Almost as much as he must despise the utter twats that spin legitimate concerns into huge stories.

The game and the media that cover it is fucking rotten to the core.

LFC and the actual game of football will always be in my blood, I can't help it, it's part of me and a product of my upbringing, but the wider game and the circus surrounding it depresses the fuck out of me and I can't stand it.

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