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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18400 on: October 24, 2021, 10:57:03 am »
Fair play to the Palace fans yesterday.

The complaint would surely have come from inside the ground, you could probably narrow that down to a handful of Newcastle reps who attended the game.
The PIF PR machine will be in full flow right now..sorry to inform you but this won't go away.
There will be banners at every game Newcastle play.

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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18401 on: October 24, 2021, 10:57:41 am »
props to the palace fans, nothing wrong with that banner, statement of facts isn't it?

oh, and United with Pride might want to take a look at what their counterpart, Proud at Palace, has to say on your new owners

https://twitter.com/i/status/1451911637938671618

still gobsmacked by those shameless cowards of a group to let that shit slide cos a sugar daddy crossed their palms with silver, united with pride, my arse



oh yeah i forgot, a new (first i heard it put forward, anyway) narrative coming from supporters of the takeover is that it's heightened scrutiny of saudi arabia, which is a good thing that could lead to change.................  :o :o :o :o

morons, they clearly (and it's not just newcastle fans) do not understand the very concept of sports washing, by its very nature it's a con job, that's the motive, that's the driving force, that's the reason to spunk billions on a game of footy, a con to alter perception of them not through change but by assosciation to something deemed prestigious and innocuous - at what point do you think they say, mmmm, maybe we should listen to these gullible fellows who are taking the bait hook line and sinker

no, they sit in palaces and laugh at the nature of greed and how easy people are to manipulate and those offering up 'positives' or excuses for the regime's takeover are making their very point, if you didn't buy it hook line and sinker they wouldn't even consider doing it in the first place, those people are the very reason this shit works and is in our game in the first place
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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18402 on: October 24, 2021, 11:01:29 am »
He would have been on the brink regardless of the takeover anyway given their position. They were in a terrible run last season and Jones the coach was brought in (against Bruce's wishes) and results improved and they stayed up.

Added to the fact new owners will want their own manager in anyway (unless they inherit someone really good). Bruce has walked out on tons of jobs, including the Sheff Wed job to take the Newcastle one.

He did a pretty poor job/average at best, got sacked and walk away with 8 million quid compo (added to his annual salary in the millions). If they want to call it bad treatment then so be it.

He's managed a ton of clubs and the fans of nearly all of them dislike him (many of them hate him).

But the media like him so that sets the narrative.

Oh I agree.

I wasn't sure if I was missing anything, this just seems like the classic case of poor results and performances married with fans wanting a manager out. Although at least he didn't walk out on Newcastle to go elsewhere like many of his other jobs.
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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18403 on: October 24, 2021, 11:12:31 am »
Good post.  The problem is that it’s created a situation where everyone goes into nuclear offence mode about everything, because that’s a tactic that works.  And now it’s established as a successful tactic, anyone can use it, even despots.  It’s a dreadful problem for us all.

I’m reaching the view that anyone who tries to silence somebody by claiming offence needs to be told to fuck off, every time and even if I agree with them.

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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18404 on: October 24, 2021, 11:15:48 am »
I'd love to see this banner passed on to newcastles next away opponents - who also add one of their own. Then both passed on to their next away game, increasing every time until there's a banner for the fans of each team.

A whole end dedicated to showing what fans actually think of this.

One question I have though is are the majority of fans genuinely interested/concerned about Saudi practices, or are they just using it because they're pissed off they weren't chosen to be made rich overnight.
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« Reply #18405 on: October 24, 2021, 11:17:26 am »
Rainbow and amnesty flags would work well as a protest when playing the human rights trampling clubs. Who can complain that they're offensive?

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« Reply #18406 on: October 24, 2021, 11:20:23 am »
I'd love to see this banner passed on to newcastles next away opponents - who also add one of their own. Then both passed on to their next away game, increasing every time until there's a banner for the fans of each team.

A whole end dedicated to showing what fans actually think of this.

One question I have though is are the majority of fans genuinely interested/concerned about Saudi practices, or are they just using it because they're pissed off they weren't chosen to be made rich overnight.

Does it matter what the motivation is?  Right minded people know this is an abomination. Highlight abs highlight and you’ll get results. PIF are not going away from NUFC but if the club becomes so unpopular in the media driven world then top coaches and players will genuinely think twice about joining them hopefully

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« Reply #18407 on: October 24, 2021, 11:25:36 am »
I'd love to see this banner passed on to newcastles next away opponents - who also add one of their own. Then both passed on to their next away game, increasing every time until there's a banner for the fans of each team.

A whole end dedicated to showing what fans actually think of this.

One question I have though is are the majority of fans genuinely interested/concerned about Saudi practices, or are they just using it because they're pissed off they weren't chosen to be made rich overnight.

I'd pack in my support of Liverpool if the club were owned by monsters. These aren't rich owners, these are regime's that are fundamentally evil.

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« Reply #18408 on: October 24, 2021, 11:26:02 am »
Rainbow and amnesty flags would work well as a protest when playing the human rights trampling clubs. Who can complain that they're offensive?
Amnesty withdrew support from Navalny in Russia.  The banner has more integrity the way it is.
Does it matter what the motivation is?  Right minded people know this is an abomination. Highlight abs highlight and you’ll get results. PIF are not going away from NUFC but if the club becomes so unpopular in the media driven world then top coaches and players will genuinely think twice about joining them hopefully
I’d say the motivation is crucial.  This can’t be allowed to turn into football banter, it’s too big for that.

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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18409 on: October 24, 2021, 11:32:21 am »
I believe Newcastle shills are going to outdo even Abu Dhabi morons. Just read a few tweets about Beckham selling his soul to promote the next world cup and theres untold comments from Newcastle fans playing the victim about how it's only them being criticised and it's all so unfair. Its fucking nauseating.

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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18410 on: October 24, 2021, 11:33:58 am »
Well done to the Palace fans there,  good to see the action.  You want to see this from all teams,  also you look at the psychological profile of the oil princelings / royalty that derive income from an oil rich country -  whether its the Saudis,  UAE,  or the region we deal a lot with in Brunei,  Malaysia -  there's usually a delusional sense of importance given to respect,  protocol.  In the UK you have a fantastic opportunity to give them the finger every game (unless the authorities step in).  Guys who make their own money,  they won't care,  with this crowd,  they will care a lot more than is logical.


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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18411 on: October 24, 2021, 11:35:06 am »

Are you willing to send some through the mail ?

If I was actually on acid I'd be more than happy to share.

Weird fucking comment (from OP), in all fairness.


Rainbow and amnesty flags would work well as a protest when playing the human rights trampling clubs. Who can complain that they're offensive?

Are you suggesting Liverpool supporters in particular use rainbow flags to protest against the Saudis? Because with Liverpool FC's ongoing issues with homophobia/homophobic chants, hijacking the rainbow flag just to try and embarrass the Saudis would be a tad on the distasteful side. Amnesty flags would be far better, IMO.
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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18412 on: October 24, 2021, 11:50:28 am »
I'd love to see this banner passed on to newcastles next away opponents - who also add one of their own. Then both passed on to their next away game, increasing every time until there's a banner for the fans of each team.

A whole end dedicated to showing what fans actually think of this.


Would be quite something, that.




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« Reply #18413 on: October 24, 2021, 12:02:06 pm »
props to the palace fans, nothing wrong with that banner, statement of facts isn't it?

oh, and United with Pride might want to take a look at what their counterpart, Proud at Palace, has to say on your new owners

https://twitter.com/i/status/1451911637938671618

still gobsmacked by those shameless cowards of a group to let that shit slide cos a sugar daddy crossed their palms with silver, united with pride, my arse



oh yeah i forgot, a new (first i heard it put forward, anyway) narrative coming from supporters of the takeover is that it's heightened scrutiny of saudi arabia, which is a good thing that could lead to change.................  :o :o :o :o

morons, they clearly (and it's not just newcastle fans) do not understand the very concept of sports washing, by its very nature it's a con job, that's the motive, that's the driving force, that's the reason to spunk billions on a game of footy, a con to alter perception of them not through change but by assosciation to something deemed prestigious and innocuous - at what point do you think they say, mmmm, maybe we should listen to these gullible fellows who are taking the bait hook line and sinker

no, they sit in palaces and laugh at the nature of greed and how easy people are to manipulate and those offering up 'positives' or excuses for the regime's takeover are making their very point, if you didn't buy it hook line and sinker they wouldn't even consider doing it in the first place, those people are the very reason this shit works and is in our game in the first place

Couldn't agree more

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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18414 on: October 24, 2021, 12:14:13 pm »
I'd love to see this banner passed on to newcastles next away opponents - who also add one of their own. Then both passed on to their next away game, increasing every time until there's a banner for the fans of each team.

A whole end dedicated to showing what fans actually think of this.

One question I have though is are the majority of fans genuinely interested/concerned about Saudi practices, or are they just using it because they're pissed off they weren't chosen to be made rich overnight.

i think a few things are going on and yes there is the 'pay to win' aspect that fans hate but it's also about accumulation and the line in the sand being redrawn again and again until you have to ask the question, is there anyone out there that wouldn't pass the fit and proper test for owners?

If the regime still existed would we have a goose-stepping parade before home games kick off as swastikas are unfurled in the home end? Far fetched? Is it really that far away from where we are? How long before China comes in for a club? Do you think the premier league turns them down... i dont think they would and that's a regime accused (with a strong case) of genocide against the Uyghurs - with genocide (and mass killings of marginalised groups) arguably being the most infamous act of Hitlers regime.

Linking the above to football sounds insane, but sadly guys, that's the path we're on. And the old quote still rings true “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” - or in this case, through desperation for success turn a blind eye and kid yourself everything's ok, or 'everyone's at it so why not us', or 'if it wasn't us it would be someone else' or 'some of our values can transfer to their homeland' or 'i'd sell my soul for a trophy'. All things i've heard from the newcastle fans. Lying to themselves or openly admitting that being in bed with despots is acceptable if their football club succeeds.

Legitismisation through assosciation has existed since time immemorial



In our game it's called sports washing and, back to your original question, i think in general fans have had enough of their game being polluted by the nefarious
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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18415 on: October 24, 2021, 12:26:21 pm »
https://citizenlab.ca/2021/10/breaking-news-new-york-times-journalist-ben-hubbard-pegasus/

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New York Times journalist Ben Hubbard was repeatedly targeted with NSO Group’s Pegasus spyware over a three-year period from June 2018 to June 2021. The targeting took place while he was reporting on Saudi Arabia, and writing a book about Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

KSA also hacking journalists’ phones now.

Wonder how far they’ll go to make sure they get good UK press; hello Henry Winter, Martin Samuel & Citizen Neville.

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« Reply #18416 on: October 24, 2021, 12:36:13 pm »
Fair play to the Palace fans yesterday.

The complaint would surely have come from inside the ground, you could probably narrow that down to a handful of Newcastle reps who attended the game.
The PIF PR machine will be in full flow right now..sorry to inform you but this won't go away.
There will be banners at every game Newcastle play.

How do the Police see that banner & deem it offensive?

It was probably the Premier league objecting to their Logo being used without payment.

Apparently it is alleged it is a hate crime.

Saudi PR team on it straight away,
“Poor Saudi Royal Family getting blamed for the actions of a few”
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« Reply #18417 on: October 24, 2021, 12:40:26 pm »
That final paragraph, what the fuck!

Like a load of shit shepherds in a shit nativity play where all the kids who can’t remember their lines get their mam’s tea towel to make them look a part of it.
Mind you those buggers would probably punch the donkey and the oxen as well as the sheep.
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« Reply #18418 on: October 24, 2021, 12:52:20 pm »
Not to defend them, but I don't think the Premier League wanted to accept the takeover. They turned it down initially and have used delaying tactics but Newcastle fans waged war over it. I think there was lobbying pressure from the government as well and the fact the Saudi government are supposedly not incolved.

You can bet that Johnson was letting the Premier League know that it was of vital importance to the security of his job that the Saudis got what they wanted.
I remember seeing pictures years ago of Arabs rocking up in Knightsbridge in Rolls Royces and the politicians welcoming them as investors in our economy. They were even more barbaric back then.
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« Reply #18419 on: October 24, 2021, 12:53:59 pm »
It was probably the Premier league objecting to their Logo being used without payment.

Apparently it is alleged it is a hate crime.

Saudi PR team on it straight away,
“Poor Saudi Royal Family getting blamed for the actions of a few”

Poor crown prince MBS,future king,the chairman of Newcastle United owner PIF who among other things has a hit squad to make offensive things disappear.

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« Reply #18420 on: October 24, 2021, 12:59:35 pm »
Rainbow and amnesty flags would work well as a protest when playing the human rights trampling clubs. Who can complain that they're offensive?

Remember UEFA did Celtic for waving Palestinian National flags because flags are “political”.
By their reasoning anyone waving any National flag at a game is being political.
Spurs fans with Israeli flags, Watford were waving a Serbian flag I think yesterday. We have had German flags, Everton had Stars and Stripes. It’s all about bloody politics and the money that comes from it.
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« Reply #18421 on: October 24, 2021, 01:24:28 pm »
All away fans should dress in t-shirts with atheist slogans and snog the faces of the same sex fan next to them, while periodically swigging alcohol, for the whole game.

Or masks of Kashoggi… whatever works best.

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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18422 on: October 24, 2021, 01:35:58 pm »
I honestly believe that if people turned up in Khashoggi t-shirts, it might be censored. That`s the way football has turned out. The Whatabout FC development has been really depressing. It just how easily people can get manipulated.  I used to respect Newcastle fans as some of the dedicated ones, but still hoped that also would come across through some morals in who were the custodians of the club.
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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18423 on: October 24, 2021, 01:44:49 pm »
Someone has actually reported the banner to the police…


I shouldn’t  be shocked, but it’s hard not to be….
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« Reply #18424 on: October 24, 2021, 01:51:06 pm »
It was probably the Premier league objecting to their Logo being used without payment.

Apparently it is alleged it is a hate crime.

Saudi PR team on it straight away,
“Poor Saudi Royal Family getting blamed for the actions of a few”
"Hate crime"!?  WTAF!?
They can dish out hate crimes and crimes against humanity left, right and centre, but can't take it!?
I feel this is cheapening hate crimes, making light of actual hate crimes.
I'm sure the police are investigating that so they can see if there is any way these fans can be prosecuted.

Good on those Palace supporters!
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« Reply #18425 on: October 24, 2021, 01:58:18 pm »
Nah, that’s more likely us, Utd, Madrid or Barca. Only the most popular teams are the most hated. Newcastle are currently an irrelevance in world football.
But that's for football jealousy reasons.

The sportswash vehicle clubs are despised for far bigger crimes. Personally speaking, I despise them far more than I ever could the clubs you've mentioned there.
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« Reply #18426 on: October 24, 2021, 02:54:37 pm »
If they prevent banners from being displayed then other action can and should be taken, whether its buying tickets but not going when SaudiSportswash are the visitors, to absolute silence when the teams come out and turning backs to the pitch when the PL anthem is played, to constant boos when they warm up, kick off, have the ball, everything that will be picked by the cameras and cannot be ignored.
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« Reply #18427 on: October 24, 2021, 02:59:40 pm »
Not posting it here because the source is from the Mail, but apparently the other 18 teams are refusing to sell players to Newcastle and they're focusing on players in Europe instead
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« Reply #18428 on: October 24, 2021, 11:13:26 pm »
Not posting it here because the source is from the Mail, but apparently the other 18 teams are refusing to sell players to Newcastle and they're focusing on players in Europe instead

That would be a fantastic move can't see it though
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« Reply #18429 on: October 24, 2021, 11:34:51 pm »
Nah, i am afraid Utd will take loads of cash for Lingard, Maguire etc. That would piss me off.

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« Reply #18430 on: October 25, 2021, 01:41:39 pm »
Another article about the delightful new owner of Newcastle Utd, this time from The Guardian:

Saudi crown prince a ‘psychopath’, says exiled intelligence officer

A former senior Saudi intelligence officer has claimed that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is a “psychopath with no empathy” who once boasted that he could kill the kingdom’s ruler at the time, King Abdullah, and replace him with his own father.

In an interview on US television, Saad Aljabri, who fled Saudi Arabia in May 2017 and is living in exile in Canada, also said he had been warned by an associate in 2018, after the murder of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, that a Saudi hit team was heading to Canada to kill him.

Aljabri told 60 Minutes on CBS he was warned “don’t be in a proximity of any Saudi mission in Canada. Don’t go to the consulate. Don’t go to the embassy.” When he asked why, he said he was told “they dismembered the guy, they kill him. You are on the top of the list.”

Some details of the alleged murder plot, which were detailed in litigation in the US and Canada, have already been reported. But the 60 Minutes interview represents the first time Aljabri has publicly spoken about his break with Prince Mohammed.

He also spoke of the plight of his two youngest children, Sarah and Omar, who were arrested and are in prison in Saudi Arabia in what is widely seen as an attempt to force their father back to the country.

“I have to speak out. I am appealing to the American people and to the American administration to help me to release those children and to restore their life,” he said.

The Saudi government did not address Aljabri’s allegations but said in a statement that “Saad Aljabri is a discredited former government official with a long history of fabricating and creating distractions to hide the financial crimes he committed”.

Aljabri was a close adviser to Mohammed bin Nayef, a former crown prince and interior minister who is being held in Saudi Arabia and has been seen as a potential political rival to Prince Mohammed. “I expect to be killed one day because this guy will not rest off until he see me dead,” Aljabri said.

Aljabri has strong support in the US, where former intelligence officials have credited their Saudi counterpart for helping to save American and Saudi lives following the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the US.

On 60 Minutes, the former acting CIA director Mike Morell said Aljabri was “honourable”. Intelligence relayed to the US by Aljabri – Morell said – had led to the interception of bombs that had been planted by al-Qaida in 2010 in two desktop printers that were being flown as cargo on two planes.

Morell said there were also other examples of Aljabri saving the lives of Americans, but that they were still classified.

The rest of the article is here.

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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18431 on: October 25, 2021, 01:47:36 pm »
Another article about the delightful new owner of Newcastle Utd, this time from The Guardian:

Saudi crown prince a ‘psychopath’, says exiled intelligence officer

A former senior Saudi intelligence officer has claimed that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is a “psychopath with no empathy” who once boasted that he could kill the kingdom’s ruler at the time, King Abdullah, and replace him with his own father.

In an interview on US television, Saad Aljabri, who fled Saudi Arabia in May 2017 and is living in exile in Canada, also said he had been warned by an associate in 2018, after the murder of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, that a Saudi hit team was heading to Canada to kill him.

Aljabri told 60 Minutes on CBS he was warned “don’t be in a proximity of any Saudi mission in Canada. Don’t go to the consulate. Don’t go to the embassy.” When he asked why, he said he was told “they dismembered the guy, they kill him. You are on the top of the list.”

Some details of the alleged murder plot, which were detailed in litigation in the US and Canada, have already been reported. But the 60 Minutes interview represents the first time Aljabri has publicly spoken about his break with Prince Mohammed.

He also spoke of the plight of his two youngest children, Sarah and Omar, who were arrested and are in prison in Saudi Arabia in what is widely seen as an attempt to force their father back to the country.

“I have to speak out. I am appealing to the American people and to the American administration to help me to release those children and to restore their life,” he said.

The Saudi government did not address Aljabri’s allegations but said in a statement that “Saad Aljabri is a discredited former government official with a long history of fabricating and creating distractions to hide the financial crimes he committed”.

Aljabri was a close adviser to Mohammed bin Nayef, a former crown prince and interior minister who is being held in Saudi Arabia and has been seen as a potential political rival to Prince Mohammed. “I expect to be killed one day because this guy will not rest off until he see me dead,” Aljabri said.

Aljabri has strong support in the US, where former intelligence officials have credited their Saudi counterpart for helping to save American and Saudi lives following the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the US.

On 60 Minutes, the former acting CIA director Mike Morell said Aljabri was “honourable”. Intelligence relayed to the US by Aljabri – Morell said – had led to the interception of bombs that had been planted by al-Qaida in 2010 in two desktop printers that were being flown as cargo on two planes.

Morell said there were also other examples of Aljabri saving the lives of Americans, but that they were still classified.

The rest of the article is here.

No problem at all.

Sign Messi and the media will be crowing about the Saudi state 'redeeming' itself.

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« Reply #18432 on: October 25, 2021, 01:56:03 pm »
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That story has just been reported on the main BBC TV news too.

Hopefully their Geordie apologists and enablers are feeling a little uncomfortable this afternoon, although I doubt it.
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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18433 on: October 25, 2021, 01:59:25 pm »
Another article about the delightful new owner of Newcastle Utd, this time from The Guardian:

Saudi crown prince a ‘psychopath’, says exiled intelligence officer

A former senior Saudi intelligence officer has claimed that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is a “psychopath with no empathy” who once boasted that he could kill the kingdom’s ruler at the time, King Abdullah, and replace him with his own father.

In an interview on US television, Saad Aljabri, who fled Saudi Arabia in May 2017 and is living in exile in Canada, also said he had been warned by an associate in 2018, after the murder of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, that a Saudi hit team was heading to Canada to kill him.

Aljabri told 60 Minutes on CBS he was warned “don’t be in a proximity of any Saudi mission in Canada. Don’t go to the consulate. Don’t go to the embassy.” When he asked why, he said he was told “they dismembered the guy, they kill him. You are on the top of the list.”

Some details of the alleged murder plot, which were detailed in litigation in the US and Canada, have already been reported. But the 60 Minutes interview represents the first time Aljabri has publicly spoken about his break with Prince Mohammed.

He also spoke of the plight of his two youngest children, Sarah and Omar, who were arrested and are in prison in Saudi Arabia in what is widely seen as an attempt to force their father back to the country.

“I have to speak out. I am appealing to the American people and to the American administration to help me to release those children and to restore their life,” he said.

The Saudi government did not address Aljabri’s allegations but said in a statement that “Saad Aljabri is a discredited former government official with a long history of fabricating and creating distractions to hide the financial crimes he committed”.

Aljabri was a close adviser to Mohammed bin Nayef, a former crown prince and interior minister who is being held in Saudi Arabia and has been seen as a potential political rival to Prince Mohammed. “I expect to be killed one day because this guy will not rest off until he see me dead,” Aljabri said.

Aljabri has strong support in the US, where former intelligence officials have credited their Saudi counterpart for helping to save American and Saudi lives following the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the US.

On 60 Minutes, the former acting CIA director Mike Morell said Aljabri was “honourable”. Intelligence relayed to the US by Aljabri – Morell said – had led to the interception of bombs that had been planted by al-Qaida in 2010 in two desktop printers that were being flown as cargo on two planes.

Morell said there were also other examples of Aljabri saving the lives of Americans, but that they were still classified.

The rest of the article is here.

He's got a touch of Saddam Hussein's sadistic sons about him.

Imagine him owning your football club.
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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18434 on: October 25, 2021, 03:08:40 pm »
^
That story has just been reported on the main BBC TV news too.

Hopefully their Geordie apologists and enablers are feeling a little uncomfortable this afternoon, although I doubt it.

Just about to post the link but beaten to it.

The apologists will feel no discomfort at all.

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« Reply #18435 on: October 25, 2021, 03:19:13 pm »
The Washington Post has long concluded that Bin Salman is the new Saddam Hussein.

In a lengthy article published in 2019 they finished it as follows;

'Like Saddam Hussein before him, Mohammed Bin Salman has concluded that he is immune. Women he tortured are still in prison.His planes are still bombing Yemen. And he is taking the first steps toward acquiring nuclear weapons. Because Western governments do not stop him now, they will have to do it later - when the cost is likely to be far higher.'

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« Reply #18436 on: October 25, 2021, 04:07:59 pm »
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Re: NUFC - journalists lives matter
« Reply #18438 on: October 25, 2021, 04:16:25 pm »
Just about to post the link but beaten to it.

The apologists will feel no discomfort at all.
Don’t forget how much the Geordies have suffered under Mile Ashley tho.

I really don’t know how they can be happy he has bought their club. It is beyond belief.

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« Reply #18439 on: October 25, 2021, 04:22:24 pm »
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