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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #40 on: April 9, 2024, 04:42:05 pm »
There not interested in the actual football just as much money as they can make out of it time someone stepped up who has the game at heart sadly too late probably

Fans are the ones who can stop it but not enough are arsed.

I doubt it happens in Germany as they are 51% fan owned or most are so they will object it.

It was obvious this would happen in England the baby steps will be to play the Caribo cup final in another country just like Italy/Spain have them in Middle East, that is the mini step and before you know it boom 2-3 games a season.


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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #41 on: April 9, 2024, 04:43:34 pm »
I’m sure no money has changed hands for this to come about
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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #42 on: April 9, 2024, 04:49:27 pm »
Football as I know it / knew it is dead and buried.
Yup.  To be honest they'll not mourn us losing interest anyway.  Legacy fans that have a few pints outside the ground, don't by a new replica kit every season and don't chuck money at Sky/BT/TNT/Etc. aren't worth bothering about.

The next generation coming through will see us this as just being normal, the same way that we see footballers being multi-millionaires by their early 20s as normal.  My old man still talks about how he used to bump into Liverpool and Everton players in the locals when he was a lad.  I can see him zone out when there's talk of the lifestyles of modern players.

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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2024, 08:48:48 am »
'Fifa court deal could open way for European league matches in US' (and elsewhere too... like in the Saudi or Qatar etc):-

Promoter sued Fifa over stance on matches played overseas
Miami Dolphins owner planned to host La Liga match in 2019


www.theguardian.com/football/2024/apr/09/fifa-court-deal-could-open-way-for-european-league-matches-in-us





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'Fifa says it will consider changes to its policy that blocks league matches from being played in other countries. The changes are part of an agreement with a promoter to dismiss the world governing body from a lawsuit challenging that policy.

Relevent Sports lawyer Jeffrey L Kessler filed a letter on Monday in a Manhattan court stating Fifa and his client agreed to the dismissal. Keller wrote that Fifa agreed to abide by any injunction arising from the suit, which also includes US Soccer as a defendant. The agreement did not alter the suit against the US Soccer.

“Fifa and Relevent have agreed to resolve this matter as it concerns Fifa, pending Fifa’s consideration of changes to existing Fifa policies with respect to playing official season games outside a league’s home territory,” Fifa said in a statement. “Fifa has not admitted any liability and continues to deny the legal claims alleged in Relevent’s complaint.”'
often wondered at NFL games at Wembley or Spurs. Seems wrong somehow, but maybe North Americans view the “fanchise” differently. Imagine Liverpool Vs United league game played in San Francisco or Riyadh.  This is horrible.
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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2024, 09:50:56 pm »
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'Saudi football player whipped by fan after Super Cup final defeat':-

www.independent.co.uk/tv/sport/saudi-super-cup-final-player-whipped-al-ittihad-b2527620.html





'A supporter appeared to whip an Al-Ittihad player in an astonishing incident at the end of the Saudi Super Cup final on Thursday night (11 April).

The disgraceful scene unfolded after Al-Hilal won the final 4-1 to stay on course for an unprecedented quadruple.

At full-time, Al-Ittihad striker Abderrazak Hamdallah was seen arguing with a fan as he made his way off the pitch, and appeared to throw water in their direction.

The man responded by lashing the player with a whip, hitting him at least once.

Hamdallah scored his side’s only goal in the heavy defeat.'



'[IttiMania] Al-Hilal supporter whips Al-Ittihad striker Hamdallah after the supercup final in Saudi Arabia' - https://twitter.com/IttiMania/status/1778509641481089319

^ 26 second clip of a Saudi fan trying to whip one of the players post-match! - https://twitter.com/Millar_Colin/status/1778518110431215616 & https://streamin.one/v/0b2dead1


www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/al-ittihad-star-whipped-furious-32569171
www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/04/12/fan-whips-al-ittihad-player-in-saudi-super-cup-final-watch
https://en.as.com/videos/watch-al-ittihad-fan-whips-player-after-al-hilal-defeat-v

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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2024, 10:36:24 pm »
often wondered at NFL games at Wembley or Spurs. Seems wrong somehow, but maybe North Americans view the “fanchise” differently. Imagine Liverpool Vs United league game played in San Francisco or Riyadh.  This is horrible.

It’s going to happen mate and my guess is Carling Cup final will be the first tester.

Franchises can move their teams to another town/city as football isn’t franchise it makes it a harder sell but with how stupid fans are here they will have a moan then just get on with it obviously ours won’t but the seeds are being sown.

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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2024, 04:23:58 am »
It’s going to happen mate and my guess is Carling Cup final will be the first tester.

Franchises can move their teams to another town/city as football isn’t franchise it makes it a harder sell but with how stupid fans are here they will have a moan then just get on with it obviously ours won’t but the seeds are being sown.

Yeah, in the US, pro teams move to different Cities all the time, latest ones, MLB franchise Oakland Athletics are planning to move to Vegas, & NHL have plans to force Arizona Coyotes to move from Phoenix to Salt Lake City.

Most issues in the US tend to be around a new stadium/arena for the franchise, owners will often threaten to move the team if they don't get public funding for a new stadium/arena, which often goes to a public vote, & voters will often approve public funding for fear of losing their team to another City, the Coyotes & As moves are due to stadium/arena issues. 
 
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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2024, 05:30:33 am »


Not surprising. Politicians and Football officials will do anything for money. We all witnessed the biggest sport washing project ever hosted by the UK.

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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2024, 07:15:49 pm »
https://twitter.com/martynziegler/status/1783489636771267066

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This story now officially confirmed: the fabulously wealthy Saudi state oil company becomes major FIFA sponsor
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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2024, 07:18:29 pm »
Football is officially dead isn't it?

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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2024, 07:22:19 pm »
Yes.
It is.

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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2024, 07:25:33 pm »
Could a rival body to FIFA ever be made is that possible then leave them to there money grabbing
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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2024, 08:52:01 am »
Could a rival body to FIFA ever be made is that possible then leave them to there money grabbing

Yeah as long as dickhead fans don't shout it down as greedy

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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #53 on: May 2, 2024, 09:30:14 pm »

'FIFA tells judge it plans to change rule barring clubs from playing abroad by end of year':-

https://theathletic.com/5467240/2024/05/02/fifa-lawsuit-us-soccer-rule-change - or in full & free, here: https://archive.ph/xqA19


'An attorney representing FIFA in the ongoing antitrust lawsuit filed against it by a New York-based sports promoter said in federal court on Thursday that a rule change that would allow domestic league matches to be played abroad could come “before the end of the year.”'
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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #54 on: May 2, 2024, 09:32:00 pm »
'FIFA tells judge it plans to change rule barring clubs from playing abroad by end of year':-

https://theathletic.com/5467240/2024/05/02/fifa-lawsuit-us-soccer-rule-change - or in full & free, here: https://archive.ph/xqA19


'An attorney representing FIFA in the ongoing antitrust lawsuit filed against it by a New York-based sports promoter said in federal court on Thursday that a rule change that would allow domestic league matches to be played abroad's could come “before the end of the year.”'
And by ‘abroad’ I wonder if they mean Saudi Arabia , Abu Dhabi and Qatar 🤔

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« Reply #55 on: May 2, 2024, 09:54:56 pm »
And by ‘abroad’ I wonder if they mean Saudi Arabia , Abu Dhabi and Qatar 🤔

Well, Newcastle need a bigger ground, and their Saudi owners have a few going soon - so Saudi would like to welcome their PL team to their new home ground...

That traffic in Manchester is terrible too for City fans - much better in the UAE...


or maybe they'll start with one of the Cups first - 'the magic of the FA Cup' and all that - with the final being played in the UAE...

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« Reply #56 on: May 2, 2024, 09:58:59 pm »
Well, Newcastle need a bigger ground, and their Saudi owners have a few going soon - so Saudi would like to welcome their PL team to their new home ground...

That traffic in Manchester is terrible too for City fans - much better in the UAE...


or maybe they'll start with one of the Cups first - 'the magic of the FA Cup' and all that - with the final being played in the UAE...

:butt
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I said ages ago that the regimes will not stop until they completely own the game.

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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #57 on: May 2, 2024, 10:01:26 pm »
'FIFA tells judge it plans to change rule barring clubs from playing abroad by end of year':-

https://theathletic.com/5467240/2024/05/02/fifa-lawsuit-us-soccer-rule-change - or in full & free, here: https://archive.ph/xqA19


'An attorney representing FIFA in the ongoing antitrust lawsuit filed against it by a New York-based sports promoter said in federal court on Thursday that a rule change that would allow domestic league matches to be played abroad could come “before the end of the year.”'

Cesspit of a sport.
Soccer - let's face it, its not really about a game of ball anymore is it?

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« Reply #58 on: May 2, 2024, 10:08:01 pm »
Game is gone isn’t it.
I said ages ago that the regimes will not stop until they completely own the game.

Yes. Unfortunately so.

They really did kill the beautiful game.


This is my last season - seems a few others too - Klopp going seems a good time to also go.  Non league footy is where it is still alive and kicking; in that it is accessible and affordable, nor ruined by VAR, TV, corruption, or other modern footy shite.
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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #59 on: May 2, 2024, 10:09:17 pm »
Yes. Unfortunately so.

They really did kill the beautiful game.


This is my last season - seems a few others too - Klopp going seems a good time to also go.  Non league footy is where it is still alive and kicking; in that it is accessible and affordable, nor ruined by VAR, TV, corruption, or other modern footy shite.

I recommend following LFC women. Ive had a great time at their last two matches at home. And only a tenner!

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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #60 on: May 2, 2024, 10:11:56 pm »
Yes. Unfortunately so.

They really did kill the beautiful game.


This is my last season - seems a few others too - Klopp going seems a good time to also go.  Non league footy is where it is still alive and kicking; in that it is accessible and affordable, nor ruined by VAR, TV, corruption, or other modern footy shite.
I’m the same. I can’t keep on getting emotionally involved in a game that is rigged, from the horrid regimes who are taking it over, to the authorities allowing them to cheat their way to succes, then the corrupt officiating. It’s just not a proper sport anymore. It’s actually just stressful now without the enjoyment.

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« Reply #61 on: May 2, 2024, 10:14:13 pm »
I recommend following LFC women. Ive had a great time at their last two matches at home. And only a tenner!

Following women can get you into trouble, mate. Especially when paying them! ;)   Seriously, LFC Women is a decent shout.

I’m the same. I can’t keep on getting emotionally involved in a game that is rigged, from the horrid regimes who are taking it over, to the authorities allowing them to cheat their way to succes, then the corrupt officiating. It’s just not a proper sport anymore. It’s actually just stressful now without the enjoyment.

Completely agree - and it seems it'll only get worse - with more teams bought by these corrupt sportswashing regimes under MCOs or similar. The sporting aspect feels gone.

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Re: Infantino trying to sell FIFA's rights on everything to Saudis
« Reply #62 on: May 2, 2024, 10:25:26 pm »
Cesspit of a sport.

Football feels filthy these days with some very bad people running it and owning clubs now.

Switching my interests more and more to American sports despite the over the top commercialism and monetisation of everything,still feels cleaner.

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« Reply #63 on: May 2, 2024, 10:41:51 pm »
Football feels filthy these days with some very bad people running it and owning clubs now.

Switching my interests more and more to American sports despite the over the top commercialism and monetisation of everything,still feels cleaner.

Yeah, stuff like the salary cap [which most major league sports in the US have], & you have different teams winning the championship.
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« Reply #64 on: May 2, 2024, 10:51:15 pm »
Well, Newcastle need a bigger ground, and their Saudi owners have a few going soon - so Saudi would like to welcome their PL team to their new home ground...

That traffic in Manchester is terrible too for City fans - much better in the UAE...


or maybe they'll start with one of the Cups first - 'the magic of the FA Cup' and all that - with the final being played in the UAE...

:butt

Said it weeks ago it will be Caribo Cup final first and this country deserves it.

I kinda hope Middle East ruin everything for all other clubs I’m kind of looking for a great escape from the game and it’s going to be funny watching all the gammons kick off they deserve it massively.

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« Reply #65 on: May 2, 2024, 10:52:52 pm »
I’m the same. I can’t keep on getting emotionally involved in a game that is rigged, from the horrid regimes who are taking it over, to the authorities allowing them to cheat their way to succes, then the corrupt officiating. It’s just not a proper sport anymore. It’s actually just stressful now without the enjoyment.

Might as well watch Hulk Hogan v Ultimate Warrior mate bout as real as the game now.

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« Reply #66 on: Yesterday at 07:37:06 am »
'FIFA tells judge it plans to change rule barring clubs from playing abroad by end of year':-

https://theathletic.com/5467240/2024/05/02/fifa-lawsuit-us-soccer-rule-change - or in full & free, here: https://archive.ph/xqA19


'An attorney representing FIFA in the ongoing antitrust lawsuit filed against it by a New York-based sports promoter said in federal court on Thursday that a rule change that would allow domestic league matches to be played abroad could come “before the end of the year.”'
I've been saying this for years, and I got a lot of shit for it.

The fans that long for oil state owners for LFC have to realize what is at stake - a new home ground in Qatar or SA.

Right now, ManCity if of course the most likely target for a complete move.

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« Reply #67 on: Yesterday at 07:53:40 am »
Yes. Unfortunately so.

They really did kill the beautiful game.


This is my last season - seems a few others too - Klopp going seems a good time to also go.  Non league footy is where it is still alive and kicking; in that it is accessible and affordable, nor ruined by VAR, TV, corruption, or other modern footy shite.

Couldn't agree more. I turned my back on top flight football some time ago in regards to attending the matches. I'll still watch almost all of our games on the Tele but regardless of the result I haven't been emotionally invested in ages. I've always fleetingly watched lower league or non league football all my life with friends and family but for the last 5 or 6 years I go to watch my local side with mates every week now and it's brilliant. It might not have the glamour and pizzazz of the premier league but then neither does Luton v Burnley..
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« Reply #68 on: Yesterday at 08:02:09 am »
Well, Newcastle need a bigger ground, and their Saudi owners have a few going soon - so Saudi would like to welcome their PL team to their new home ground...

That traffic in Manchester is terrible too for City fans - much better in the UAE...


or maybe they'll start with one of the Cups first - 'the magic of the FA Cup' and all that - with the final being played in the UAE...

:butt 

Don't think they'll move entire clubs, no PL team will want to be flying 7 hours for a game then 7 hours back, but what it will mean is that we will see league games in America and Saudi, like the NFL do at Spurs and  the CL Final in Saudi -I got fucking laughed at on here for saying that would happen - it's the future
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Don't think they'll move entire clubs, no PL team will want to be flying 7 hours for a game then 7 hours back, but what it will mean is that we will see league games in America and Saudi, like the NFL do at Spurs and  the CL Final in Saudi -I got fucking laughed at on here for saying that would happen - it's the future
It’s  got to the point where I’d be surprised if PL and CL games didn’t go the Middle East. There will 100% be Saudi/Qatari/Abu Dhabi clubs in the champions league in the next few years. You can just see that stooge Infantino saying ‘Football is a global game and we shouldn’t limit the Champions League to only Europe. We should also include teams from the Middle East. Not teams from elsewhere tho, as they don’t pay me enough’

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It’s  got to the point where I’d be surprised if PL and CL games didn’t go the Middle East. There will 100% be Saudi/Qatari/Abu Dhabi clubs in the champions league in the next few years. You can just see that stooge Infantino saying ‘Football is a global game and we shouldn’t limit the Champions League to only Europe. We should also include teams from the Middle East. Not teams from elsewhere tho, as they don’t pay me enough’

There's never any merit to it. They could probably sell it slightly if it was famous clubs here and there like Boca Juniors, River Plate or Flamengo. There's no recognisable clubs in Asia or the middle east.
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It’s  got to the point where I’d be surprised if PL and CL games didn’t go the Middle East. There will 100% be Saudi/Qatari/Abu Dhabi clubs in the champions league in the next few years. You can just see that stooge Infantino saying ‘Football is a global game and we shouldn’t limit the Champions League to only Europe. We should also include teams from the Middle East. Not teams from elsewhere tho, as they don’t pay me enough’

Yeah the he odd PL and CL game will 100% go there, Newcastle will play a league game in Saudi, City will play in Abu Dhabi, both getting record gate receipts in the process obviously. FSG will take us to the States, Utd will do the same. The players will be fucked.

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Don't think they'll move entire clubs, no PL team will want to be flying 7 hours for a game then 7 hours back, but what it will mean is that we will see league games in America and Saudi, like the NFL do at Spurs and  the CL Final in Saudi -I got fucking laughed at on here for saying that would happen - it's the future

Not just the NFL, but other sports have international games now as well, the NBA had games in Mexico City & Paris, NHL had games in Stockholm, & a pre season game in Australia, MLB is having games in London. rugby league, the NRL had games in Vegas.

Also the US is hosting the CONMEBOL Copa America next month, although CONMEBOL often invite CONCACAF nations to play in the Copa America, due to the CONMEBOL confederation only having 10 nations.

One thing against the CL final in Saudi, the heat will be oppressive it's 33C today, & 35C plus from Monday, & this is the beginning of May, guarantee the temperature will be around 40C to 45C come end of May beginning of June when the CL final is held.
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There's never any merit to it. They could probably sell it slightly if it was famous clubs here and there like Boca Juniors, River Plate or Flamengo. There's no recognisable clubs in Asia or the middle east.
There are tons of relatively small clubs in CL already, and there will be more.
If the saudi clubs can play in CL, they will have an easier time recruiting good players and actually compete.

The big question for PL clubs is if they could simply move their home stadium abroad

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What’s utterly shocking is that, in a time of climate catastrophe, domestic and international football is on a trajectory of increasing the amount of air travel for teams and fans.

It’s just a shitshow at this point. The oil states are intent on fucking everything and the west is just bending over.

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Not just the NFL, but other sports have international games now as well, the NBA had games in Mexico City & Paris, NHL had games in Stockholm, & a pre season game in Australia, MLB is having games in London. rugby league, the NRL had games in Vegas.

Also the US is hosting the CONMEBOL Copa America next month, although CONMEBOL often invite CONCACAF nations to play in the Copa America, due to the CONMEBOL confederation only having 10 nations.

One thing against the CL final in Saudi, the heat will be oppressive it's 33C today, & 35C plus from Monday, & this is the beginning of May, guarantee the temperature will be around 40C to 45C come end of May beginning of June when the CL final is held.

I've experienced the heat in the Middle East, went to Dubai the end of July one year for the wifes 40th, 48/49c in the day, couldn't walk 5 yards without sweating, of a night it was still about 39/40c. Sun bathing was OK though as it was quite hazy and the heated pool meant swimming was lovely and comfortable. Everywhere is air conditioned too, so you nipped into the hotel to cool.

However, they're already talking about having the 2034 WC there in the summer. They're talking about new technologies to air condition open air stadiums, so they could do that, but they could easily spend a couple of billion (its peanuts to them) building a fully airconditioned stadium with indoor training facilities, the fans will be there for a couple of days at most, any staying will be in luxury hotels anyway and spend the day by the pool, the fan parks will be air conditioned and theres zero alcohol, the VIPS, which will be the majority of the crowd, will fly in/fly out same day or will just stay in the most expensive hotels, they'll be able to do it. It'll certainly be cooler in the stadium than it was in Madrid in 2019.
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There are tons of relatively small clubs in CL already, and there will be more.
If the saudi clubs can play in CL, they will have an easier time recruiting good players and actually compete.

The big question for PL clubs is if they could simply move their home stadium abroad

They could, FIFA will not object, but its the flying and jet lag that'd be the issue. Its 6.5 hrs non stop from Manchester to Jeddah, 7hrs to Abu Dhabi, its 10am in Saudi, 11am in the UAE right now, so that long flights and constant switching of time would mess the players up I'd have thought.
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What’s utterly shocking is that, in a time of climate catastrophe, domestic and international football is on a trajectory of increasing the amount of air travel for teams and fans.

It’s just a shitshow at this point. The oil states are intent on fucking everything and the west is just bending over.

Infantino is the worst offender. FIFA/UEFA just want more and more games, more and more competitions every year now.

Ultimately football is always just a symptom of wider society. It's the capitalist model of endless growth aka money making (in the hands of the few)

The only thing that stops them is when they get enough pushback. The reaction to the ESL for example.

It'd help if there was a strong player union. THey just keep their mouths shut and get on with it because ultimately salaries are rising and they're making bank, all part of that more, more more model.

Even the days of the World Cup in one country now look over (unless it's Saudi or Qatar throwing enough money at FIFA). Mexico/Canada/USA in 2026 - how many air miles is that? 2030 held over 3 continents!
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Could have done with Grujic and even Chirivella to tide us over this season