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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5080 on: December 2, 2023, 09:56:21 pm »
Do we know how many seats are open for Utd game?

No, but The Club say several thousand general admission seats which rules out hospitality at the front, and all subject to the safety test.  Anything between 3000 and 5000 is my guess.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5081 on: December 4, 2023, 06:07:56 pm »
Dear Supporter,

We are preparing to partially open the new Anfield Road upper tier for the first time at the Manchester United fixture on December 17. This is part of a phased opening programme of the new expanded Anfield Road Stand and is subject to an internal emergency conditions test managed in conjunction with Liverpool City Council and a public test event.

For this important test event we are inviting you to take part on Monday 11th December which will feature a live Q&A with manager Jürgen Klopp.

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18:00 Turnstiles open

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19:20 Half Time

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This free event is an important part of the matchday preparation and the phased opening of the new Anfield Road Stand, which when
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5082 on: December 4, 2023, 07:16:16 pm »
Got my invite before

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5083 on: December 4, 2023, 08:29:03 pm »
Think they've invite every member and STH 🤣

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5084 on: December 4, 2023, 09:16:17 pm »
Think they've invite every member and STH 🤣

I’m not that naive 😂

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5085 on: December 4, 2023, 09:47:42 pm »
How open is ‘partially open’? Have they put a number or percentage on it?

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5086 on: December 5, 2023, 08:05:58 am »
How open is ‘partially open’? Have they put a number or percentage on it?

Not yet, depends on the certificate

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5087 on: December 5, 2023, 06:36:56 pm »
Work is underway on the second club crest now.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5088 on: December 5, 2023, 08:08:09 pm »
Work is underway on the second club crest now.

Will they be filling in the corners?
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5089 on: December 5, 2023, 08:51:46 pm »
Will they be filling in the corners?
Why hasn't anyone else ever mentioned this?

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5090 on: December 5, 2023, 09:09:53 pm »
Anyone going the test event?  I got a ticket today but no idea how to get a general admission nfc pass it just says there’s an issue which I’m guessing is having a season ticket. Anyone managed to sort it on iOS?

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5091 on: December 6, 2023, 08:01:10 am »
Anyone going the test event?  I got a ticket today but no idea how to get a general admission nfc pass it just says there’s an issue which I’m guessing is having a season ticket. Anyone managed to sort it on iOS?

Says an email on how to download a special nfc pass will be sent two days before . I got two tickets yesterday as fancied seeing the new stand and views etc but the tickets look like they are in the lower Annie road .

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5092 on: December 6, 2023, 09:07:31 am »
Says an email on how to download a special nfc pass will be sent two days before . I got two tickets yesterday as fancied seeing the new stand and views etc but the tickets look like they are in the lower Annie road .

Ah ok cheers - I missed that thanks

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5093 on: December 6, 2023, 10:17:47 am »
2014 is the year that they started with phase 1 of this expansion.

Will have taken nigh on 10 years to get to 61k capacity and a moderate improvement in terms of architecture. In terms of facilities, improvements to public realm (shop, greenery) etc it's been good.

Main bug bears are it's taken them too long. 10 years!  :butt You'd hope at least the main stand and training complex has been paid for already and the MD has been planning how to expand that KOP to over 15,000. 

Scandalous though how much they are charging for some tickets (over £350 in corporate).  :no



 

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5094 on: December 6, 2023, 10:41:38 am »
2014 is the year that they started with phase 1 of this expansion.

Will have taken nigh on 10 years to get to 61k capacity and a moderate improvement in terms of architecture. In terms of facilities, improvements to public realm (shop, greenery) etc it's been good.

Main bug bears are it's taken them too long. 10 years!  :butt You'd hope at least the main stand and training complex has been paid for already and the MD has been planning how to expand that KOP to over 15,000. 

Scandalous though how much they are charging for some tickets (over £350 in corporate).  :no

Wont be expanded again without major changes to public transport IMO

KOP has a church behind it and a major road with bus routes, good luck shifting them, and kenny requires a while street of houses to be bought again due to daylight restrictions doesnt it?

Cant see anfield getting any bigger, dunno why they didnt do the Annie road to do the corners with Main and Kenny

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5095 on: December 6, 2023, 11:53:34 am »
To go from 45>60 thousand in the same ground given the challenges of the area is pretty much a job well done I think. Would have been done a couple of years ago too if not for Covid.

I think the biggest problems were probably made in the past. If they could have done a few thousand more seats in the upper Kenny it would have been nice. See also the Upper ARE I suppose, wouldn't have needed to do this expansion then! Kop an interesting one too because of what is behind it and also the fact there's a limit to what you can do with a single tier stand, you aren't going to get 20 thousand unless it's standing like the Yellow Wall or double tiered which would never happen with the Kop.

I don't really see what else they can do in the rest of our lifetimes to increase the capacity much. Maybe once we're all gone they can do one of those eight-tiered designs that you always see on here. Some still wouldn't be able to get tickets.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5096 on: December 6, 2023, 12:10:20 pm »

Anything is possible with real vision and great commercial team. Lot of pessimistic posters (as per usual on RAWK, not directed personally). But posters normally laugh off or counter sarcastically with those silly images of a Starbucks stand 200ft high.  ;D

Land behind KOP is available, other properties are scarce. The church is hardly used and can't see why they wouldn't agree to a short move. Best position for 20 years.

That corner with ARE and SKDS is so ugly as is the KOP frontage outside.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5097 on: December 6, 2023, 12:27:03 pm »
The thing is though mate, these topics have been discussed hundreds of times on here by people who have a really good grasp of the many challenges it takes to build a stand in such a built up area. It’s pretty obvious that having a tonne of money and a vision doesn’t necessarily mean quick action. Look at Stamford bridge, old Trafford, St James park. I’m really pleased that this thread has mainly been rooted in realistic expectations on what actually can happen in the future. Because as much as we all want tickets and corners and matching stands and nice looking things, Anfield is and always was a hodgepodge of mis-matched facilities and immediate surroundings that mean any cohesive plan is hard to come by let alone implement. If one wants to indulge in grand visions with shit loads of money, then the Skyscraper City thread is great for that.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5098 on: December 6, 2023, 01:46:47 pm »
Totally get it. Cost's huge money and the whole financially viable aspect. They said the same about the ARE, then added tons more hospitality.

I think your right, Peter did share something I believe on the KOP added seats aspect. I was just referring to expanding this particular stand because it is possible. Saying something is a pipedream and not realistic isn't actually accurate, and shuts down the debate.

Anyway we are digressing and back to ARE, that far left corner needs to be done. Signage being completed today I believe and this is good to go I think for the 17th. Outside is being cleared up. Actual stand alone looks very imposing in keeping with the MS. Think we'll have 58k in for the 17th Dec.


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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5099 on: December 6, 2023, 04:41:40 pm »
2014 is the year that they started with phase 1 of this expansion.

Will have taken nigh on 10 years to get to 61k capacity and a moderate improvement in terms of architecture. In terms of facilities, improvements to public realm (shop, greenery) etc it's been good.

Main bug bears are it's taken them too long. 10 years!  :butt You'd hope at least the main stand and training complex has been paid for already and the MD has been planning how to expand that KOP to over 15,000. 

Scandalous though how much they are charging for some tickets (over £350 in corporate).  :no

moderate improvement? how anfield was 9 years ago. its day and night

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5100 on: December 6, 2023, 05:29:28 pm »
moderate improvement? how anfield was 9 years ago. its day and night

I think 9 years is remarkable. That’s even before the crazy world events that have happened in that time.

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5101 on: December 6, 2023, 05:43:29 pm »
moderate improvement? how anfield was 9 years ago. its day and night

The transformation is amazing





The hospitality is in line with other clubs, my mates two seats in the Beautiful Game lounge are about £5k a season, his seats at the Emirates cost more. Man Utd charge between £270 and £500 per game, City charge similar.



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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5102 on: December 6, 2023, 06:44:33 pm »
You've just turned the photo round 180 Rob, we know your game.

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5103 on: December 7, 2023, 12:38:02 pm »
You've just turned the photo round 180 Rob, we know your game.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5104 on: December 7, 2023, 01:41:44 pm »
The stadium is looking a bit lopsided now....

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5105 on: December 7, 2023, 04:54:11 pm »
The stadium is looking a bit lopsided now....

Not as much as when half the attendance in a full ground of 56,000 was literally stood behind one goal.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5106 on: December 7, 2023, 05:29:52 pm »
And when you're in the ground and there's a game on, it doesn't really feel that way to me.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5107 on: December 7, 2023, 06:52:10 pm »
And when you're in the ground and there's a game on, it doesn't really feel that way to me.
The only thing that’s felt even a tiny bit odd was how small the upper tier of the Annie road end felt when you were in it. 
But that was only a tiny bit.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5108 on: December 8, 2023, 03:20:44 am »
Yeah it's definitely the new style of big concourses and lots of hospitality mean the footprint is much bigger. Inside the ground it feels pretty even. I suppose KD is too small compared to MS but even that is so vertical you don't really notice it.

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5109 on: December 8, 2023, 12:24:35 pm »
The stadium is looking a bit lopsided now....



This is a lot more lopsided tbf. And almost 10k less seats with the bigger stands far too steep.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5110 on: December 8, 2023, 01:06:16 pm »
One of the most impressive things for me is how well the two new stands blend in with the area, and with the two other stands - given their size. And how intimate it still is. Mainly because of the sloping roofs and internal truss. St.James park is the complete opposite.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5111 on: December 8, 2023, 03:09:13 pm »
The small stands under the big ones are like what Mike Ashley's feet looked like under his belly
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5112 on: December 9, 2023, 09:40:04 am »
Totally get it. Cost's huge money and the whole financially viable aspect. They said the same about the ARE, then added tons more hospitality.

I think your right, Peter did share something I believe on the KOP added seats aspect. I was just referring to expanding this particular stand because it is possible. Saying something is a pipedream and not realistic isn't actually accurate, and shuts down the debate.

Anyway we are digressing and back to ARE, that far left corner needs to be done. Signage being completed today I believe and this is good to go I think for the 17th. Outside is being cleared up. Actual stand alone looks very imposing in keeping with the MS. Think we'll have 58k in for the 17th Dec.

As I've said and outside of SCC, physically there's not much that's not possible. You can replicate the ARE at the Kop end (as a single stand) and the Main on the SKD side. The physical constraints are maybe only a bit worse than for the Main and ARE.

But the financial constraints are getting more difficult. The club thought long and hard over the finances of the ARE and it's expensive building at height (behind the SKD) and demolition and re-building goes against the general philosophy of building less for proportionately more income. Difficult as it was, the Main Stand was probably low hanging fruit in that respect and the ARE less so. The SKD and Kop would get progressively more difficult financially. I suspect you would have to re-build the whole of the SKD (for quite a lot of medium/ higher priced seats extra true) but the Kop can be extended rather than re-built (but for fewer and lower-priced seats extra). Then there's the economics (and politics) of the context - demolishing houses on the one hand and building over a road on the other.

I can't say which is is the more financially feasible but even if you didn't have to rebuild the SKD - probably the Kop, but for not much return. Then the question of overall capacity, even with 'money to burn' there's a reason why Spurs and the Emirates are just over 60K. From where Anfield was and purely in terms of best return on money spent, the best return was from a capacity of about 51k with plenty of higher earning hospitality. As the stadium has got or gets bigger, the overall income goes up but it's more and more expensive to build for less expensively priced tickets and the return on money spent gets progressively less.

The economics of redevelopment works especially when the existing stadium is bought and paid for and the costs are largely about staffing and maintenance. When we get back there, the club can sensibly think again maybe.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5113 on: December 10, 2023, 12:50:46 am »
The only thing that’s felt even a tiny bit odd was how small the upper tier of the Annie road end felt when you were in it. 
But that was only a tiny bit.

I believe that's where I sat in April for the Arsenal game - I didn't really notice because my view of the field was so good. You are probably correct, though.

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5114 on: December 10, 2023, 07:53:43 am »
I believe that's where I sat in April for the Arsenal game - I didn't really notice because my view of the field was so good. You are probably correct, though.

Been in there once, think it was Spurs, I remember Kewell scoring a screamer and it was crap, was near the back and it felt small and cramped. Mind you, back row of the centenary upper is awful too, steep climb and shit view
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5115 on: December 10, 2023, 12:25:25 pm »
Been in there once, think it was Spurs, I remember Kewell scoring a screamer and it was crap, was near the back and it felt small and cramped. Mind you, back row of the centenary upper is awful too, steep climb and shit view
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5116 on: December 10, 2023, 04:51:41 pm »
I’ve been in the Annie Upper quite a few times over the years and although it was small, I always found the views superb. The few rows at the rear of the Lower Annie however were dreadful. Thankfully the new stand should provide the best of both.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5117 on: December 10, 2023, 05:14:59 pm »
I was in there for the TNS first-leg CL qualifier 05/06 and swore there and then never again.

Was that the leg with the teeny annoying brat repeating "TNS!" as squeakily as poss?

Or was that the away leg?
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5118 on: December 10, 2023, 08:44:02 pm »
Was that the leg with the teeny annoying brat repeating "TNS!" as squeakily as poss?

Or was that the away leg?
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.
« Reply #5119 on: December 10, 2023, 09:17:55 pm »
Going to some sort of new stand “trial” tomorrow with a Q&A with Jurgen. Looking forward to seeing what it all looks like.