Topic: Man City - cheating bastards rumbled

[MD1990]

No you don't. Being found not guilty doesn't mean he's innocent. It just means his very well paid lawyers were able to put enough doubt in the mind of a jury.
His treatment of women is disgusting. He's a piece of shit.

You have no clue about the case though.
The judge and jury have fr more information
I think if it was a liverpool player you would have a different view

[Barneylfc∗]

You have no clue about the case though.
The judge and jury have fr more information
I think if it was a liverpool player you would have a different view

I know enough to know his treatment of women is disgusting and he's a piece of shit.
I'm not saying he should have been found guilty. But I am saying I don't trust the verdict.

[rob1966]

I know enough to know his treatment of women is disgusting and he's a piece of shit.
I'm not saying he should have been found guilty. But I am saying I don't trust the verdict.

Having heard the shit that people I know have heard on Jury duty, I wouldn't trust the general public to get the right decision. My missus has done Jury duty, pretty clear cut cases luckily, but because she doesn't like confrontation, she's admitted she'd go with the majority, even if she didn't agree.

Mate of mine did a case in Liverpool and the jury were basically going "well she could have done this and then said this and he could have punched himself" absolutely ignoring what the legal people had said and the evidence presented and stuff like "it wasn't like that on Coronation Street when Diedrie was in court". Get a well spoken Barrister with all the charm and you can get Fred West off.

[Barneylfc∗]

Having heard the shit that people I know have heard on Jury duty, I wouldn't trust the general public to get the right decision. My missus has done Jury duty, pretty clear cut cases luckily, but because she doesn't like confrontation, she's admitted she'd go with the majority, even if she didn't agree.

Mate of mine did a case in Liverpool and the jury were basically going "well she could have done this and then said this and he could have punched himself" absolutely ignoring what the legal people had said and the evidence presented and stuff like "it wasn't like that on Coronation Street when Diedrie was in court". Get a well spoken Barrister with all the charm and you can get Fred West off.

I've sat in a court room listening to 6 days of evidence in a sexual assault trial.
The accuser's story in court was different to the story she gave to the police which was different again to the account she'd been giving to her councillors.
All 4 prosecution witnesses contradicted her story when they were giving their account of what she told them had happened.
Literally no evidence whatsoever.
Everything she described about the room she claimed it to have happened, right down to what happened afterwards was all wrong or contradictory.
The jury somehow came back with a 10-2 guilty verdict.
The justice system is pathetic.

[Black Bull Nova]

I know enough to know his treatment of women is disgusting and he's a piece of shit.

Yup, agreed

[Chakan]

Jury duty should be a specialized branch of lawyers.  They are more than qualified to weigh evidence and give a ruling. They should get paid to sit on the jury and hear evidence and deliberate.

Fuck this jury of your peers crap. They let the lowest common denominator of people onto juries. Someone who struggles to tie their shoelaces shouldn’t be determining someone else’s guilt.

[Coolie High]

Having heard the shit that people I know have heard on Jury duty, I wouldn't trust the general public to get the right decision. My missus has done Jury duty, pretty clear cut cases luckily, but because she doesn't like confrontation, she's admitted she'd go with the majority, even if she didn't agree.

Mate of mine did a case in Liverpool and the jury were basically going "well she could have done this and then said this and he could have punched himself" absolutely ignoring what the legal people had said and the evidence presented and stuff like "it wasn't like that on Coronation Street when Diedrie was in court". Get a well spoken Barrister with all the charm and you can get Fred West off.

Yes having been on jury service it’s a mixed bag, people have their biases, some people just want to go home, some people feel it’s the perfect opportunity to let someone else share the pain of whatever they’re going through in their life, saying that how it relates to Mendy I don’t know, I can’t just assume he’s guilty or not guilty it’s best to not assume anything at all.

[GreatEx]

His was found not guilty on two counts re-tried after the jury failed to reach a verdict at the first trial, it doesn't mean the allegations are false or that his accusers should be punished as Memphis implies - if Mendy believes he's been defamed then he can instruct his lawyers to open a lawsuit, otherwise all parties need to move on and stop undermining legal process via social media.

[Haggis36]

That Mendy has received more vocal support on social media from fellow players than Dele did yesterday says absolutely everything you need to know.

[jillc]

Mendys career was destroyed by false allegations
Have to feel some sympathy for him

I have little sympathy considering how he treats women generally. There’s been plenty of stories about his behaviour before this case. As for the case itself it’s a difficult crime to prove as it’s one person’s word against another and some clever lawyer can put enough doubt in a jury’s mind to sway them into caution. It’s why so few women take it to court. The judge did not say the allegations were false, just that it was proven enough. They need to stop using juries in rape cases.

[jillc]

That Mendy has received more vocal support on social media from fellow players than Dele did yesterday says absolutely everything you need to know.

So depressingly true.

[thejbs]

Jury duty should be a specialized branch of lawyers.  They are more than qualified to weigh evidence and give a ruling. They should get paid to sit on the jury and hear evidence and deliberate.

Fuck this jury of your peers crap. They let the lowest common denominator of people onto juries. Someone who struggles to tie their shoelaces shouldn’t be determining someone else’s guilt.

Yes, and as it stands, the most qualified people to weigh up a case are disqualified from jury duty (in NI at least, Barristers, solicitors and lawyers can’t be called up).

[Vote For Pedro]

Jury duty should be a specialized branch of lawyers.  They are more than qualified to weigh evidence and give a ruling. They should get paid to sit on the jury and hear evidence and deliberate.

Fuck this jury of your peers crap. They let the lowest common denominator of people onto juries. Someone who struggles to tie their shoelaces shouldn’t be determining someone else’s guilt.

A bit like democracy - that's how you end up with Brexit.

[RobbieRedman]

I have little sympathy considering how he treats women generally. There’s been plenty of stories about his behaviour before this case. As for the case itself it’s a difficult crime to prove as it’s one person’s word against another and some clever lawyer can put enough doubt in a jury’s mind to sway them into caution. It’s why so few women take it to court. The judge did not say the allegations were false, just that it was proven enough. They need to stop using juries in rape cases.

Exactly this.

I was on jury for a historic sexual abuse case, which there was obviously no physical evidence for as it happened back in the 80's but just 2 words (two brothers) against 1 (the defendant).  The defendants lawyer was keen to emphasise to us we need to be sure beyond reasonable doubt, however the judges final words before went into discuss was 'find out who's hoodwinking who'.

The case went into a second week, I was pretty convinced he was guilty as were 8 others, 2 weren't happy it was beyond reasonable doubt and one other (who really put no input at all in for most of it) was on the fence. She eventually came round and the verdict was guilty.

But your right, a very good lawyer would have perhaps swayed more than two of us in that trial and that would of been enough for a non guilty verdict like Mendys.

[Snail]

That Mendy has received more vocal support on social media from fellow players than Dele did yesterday says absolutely everything you need to know.

Quite.

[SamLad]

A bit like democracy - that's how you end up with Brexit.

Half of the people in the world have, by definition, below-average intelligence.  As you get older you realize that half the people you've ever come into contact with fit that description.

[classycarra]

That Mendy has received more vocal support on social media from fellow players than Dele did yesterday says absolutely everything you need to know.

Really does. Deeply depressing

[A Red Abroad]

That Mendy has received more vocal support on social media from fellow players than Dele did yesterday says absolutely everything you need to know.

 

[wheresnemeth]

That Mendy has received more vocal support on social media from fellow players than Dele did yesterday says absolutely everything you need to know.

On what are you basing this statement. Dele has received lots of support from fellow players on twitter.

[Titi Camara]

New scorecards show under 1% of reported rapes lead to conviction – criminologist explains why England’s justice system continues to fail
By Dr Katrin Hohl, Reader in Criminology

In England and Wales, more than 99% of rapes reported to police do not end in a conviction. This is the result of a criminal justice system that makes prosecuting rape extremely rare, lengthy and difficult.

At present, charge rates for rape vary wildly between regions, from 1.3% in Surrey to 8.2% in Durham. Cases take, on average, 817 days to reach court, and 63% of cases are closed because the victim has given up on the process and withdrawn from it.

The victim has gone through ordeal just to get the case to court. She will also not have had the money to pay for a legal team like the defendant obviously did.

Just because someone is found not guilty, does not mean they are not guilty of the crime, simply that a jury of their peers has deemed there is not sufficient evidence of guilt to convict.

I'm not saying he's guilty but I am saying Mendy seems like a c*nt.

[Red-Soldier]

That Mendy has received more vocal support on social media from fellow players than Dele did yesterday says absolutely everything you need to know.

Yep.  What a state of affairs it is.

[Titi Camara]

Jury duty should be a specialized branch of lawyers.  They are more than qualified to weigh evidence and give a ruling. They should get paid to sit on the jury and hear evidence and deliberate.

Fuck this jury of your peers crap. They let the lowest common denominator of people onto juries. Someone who struggles to tie their shoelaces shouldn’t be determining someone else’s guilt.

Prosecution services in this country are literally at breaking point. There simply aren't the personnel to cover such a request.

Agree with the principle, but just like the rest of the public services in this country mate, they are on their fucking knees!

[Titi Camara]

I Mendy believes he's been defamed then he can instruct his lawyers to open a lawsuit

That would be a civil suit, the burden of proof is much lower, he won't do it because he'd very much likely lose which would end him publicly.

[decosabute]

Mendys career was destroyed by false allegations
Have to feel some sympathy for him

You're on a roll this week after the shite you've been posting about Saudi Arabia.

[So… Howard Philips]

Jury duty should be a specialized branch of lawyers.  They are more than qualified to weigh evidence and give a ruling. They should get paid to sit on the jury and hear evidence and deliberate.

Fuck this jury of your peers crap. They let the lowest common denominator of people onto juries. Someone who struggles to tie their shoelaces shouldn’t be determining someone else’s guilt.

It wasn’t that long ago that a jury consisted of twelve male householders, certainly not the lowest common denominator.

Could go down the Diplock courts used in NI if you want to get rid of juries,

[mattD]

Innocent but still treats women like shit. That's Mendy summed up, doesn't deserve an ounce of sympathy.

Anyone rushing to defend the scumbag Mendy are screwed in the head.

[Chakan]

It wasn’t that long ago that a jury consisted of twelve male householders, certainly not the lowest common denominator.

Could go down the Diplock courts used in NI if you want to get rid of juries,

Well nowadays it’s the lowest common denominator of people.

[newterp]

Was today the day the PL announced the punishment?

[GreatEx]

That would be a civil suit, the burden of proof is much lower, he won't do it because he'd very much likely lose which would end him publicly.

Exactly, which is why anyone talking about "false allegations" needs to wind their neck in.

[bird_lfc]

Innocent but still treats women like shit. That's Mendy summed up, doesn't deserve an ounce of sympathy.

Anyone rushing to defend the scumbag Mendy are screwed in the head.

I saw a post on socials by Memphis Depay and a tonne of footballers jumping to his defence, including golden boy Jack Grealish. It’s quite sickening really,wasn’t there THIRTEEN separate women?

[Tonyh8su]

Vinicius Jr released a big statement too.

Woof, messy messy situation.

[jillc]

It's all about being so far up themselves, that they think they can treat others as dirt while they command respect because they are so called "superstars". The lack of awareness in some footballers is just plain repulsive.

[JRed]

It's all about being so far up themselves, that they think they can treat others as dirt while they command respect because they are so called "superstars". The lack of awareness in some footballers is just plain repulsive.

This is it. I’m sure some of them believe they are gods. They are paid like it and treated like it so must believe it
They are so far above ‘ordinary people’ they believe they can do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it, and most of the time they do.
It’s disgusting.

[Jshooters]

Stinks this.  The amount of players they’ve moved around CFG not to mention the handy sale to Per Guardiola’s Girona

https://www.football365.com/news/manchester-city-selling-players-never-used-trafford-porro-sancho

[Peabee]

Mendys career was destroyed by false allegations
Have to feel some sympathy for him

Fucking hell.

How do you know they were false allegations?

Not guilty doesn’t mean he is innocent. It means the prosecution couldn’t prove that beyond reasonable doubt that he committed a crime. Being a multi millionaire with an elite legal defence helps against the over stretched CPS.

[sinnermichael]

Seen a headline today saying "Guardiola's squad woes".

Get the violins out.

[RyanBabel19]

Seen a headline today saying "Guardiola's squad woes".

Get the violins out.

Cue the insane splashing of cash and a few rumoured departures not happening.... including the inevitable Silva chatter before he stays again

[Tokyoite]

Seen a headline today saying "Guardiola's squad woes".

Get the violins out.

Got to feel for them, they're only working with an unlimitted budget after all.

[JRed]

Got to feel for them, they're only working with an unlimitted budget after all.

True. People are even expecting them to not cheat aswell. Totally unfair.

[sinnermichael]

Loving their new kit.