Topic: Man City - cheating bastards rumbled

[Flaccido Dongingo]

I hope we get to hear Statman Gaz’s thoughts on this.

Ang on Robbeh Ang on Ang on

[Redsnappa]

They boo 'Glory Glory Man Utd' already,

 

[Tobelius]

That was the game where one of their fans had a meltdown about Salah’s new hat because no one cared about the most boring cup final in decades

Yeah imagine winning a cup but right after instead of celebrating going to the press box to have rant about Mo.

They all know they've cheated,it's the quilt talking.

[Barneylfc∗]

Who? 

'ANG ON, 'ANG ON!!!

[Solomon Grundy]

I'm surprised. I mean, they absolutely should be and suffer points deductions for all those years and be stripped of everything they've won since 2008 but I doubt anything close to that'll happen. At best, I'd guess it's probably going to be a fine- IF they're found guilty and that's a big IF, given they can afford the best lawyers. I hate being cynical about it all and wish it weren't so but I just can't see it happening. Saying that, I didn't see the Premier League even charging them so there's some  hope to cling into.

Mate, its over a 100 breaches. IF they get found guilty they aren't just getting away with a slap on the wrist and a fine.

[Snusmumriken]

As much as I want to believe, in a world where Blatter somehow was cleared it just seems evident that money rules and justice never to be expected.

[Crosby Nick]

Don't forget how they robbed Watford too.

Watford would have just lost to whoever City best in the semi (Brighton I think) so not as straight forward with Cups.

[stockdam]

And another one who really doesn't believe City have done anything wrong....they are totally clueless.

"Why are they after us? Honestly?"

[PeterTheRed ...]

I think giving the title to the 2nd place team opens up too many cans of worms for the PL in regards to the 5th and 6th place teams, so I can see the PL leaving the space vacant, if they go so far as to strip City of the titles. But I would love to see a retroactive winner announced, if only for Steven Gerrard. I think a PL trophy would go a long way to banishing the slip for him. It's not just about the fans, it's about all the players and staff who deserve this, who put in the hard work only to be cheated out of their reward.

I have no idea how this will turn out, but if it's nothing more than a fine, the league is well and truly gone.

The cans of worms are already opened. Unless Man City get the most severe punishment after these charges, the PL will lose all the credibility, and the European Super League will be only a matter of time. Not to mention the possible withdrawal of the sponsors, and worst of all, the PL TV deals being put under scrutiny, because no one pays billions for a suspicious product ...

[jillc]

I'm surprised. I mean, they absolutely should be and suffer points deductions for all those years and be stripped of everything they've won since 2008 but I doubt anything close to that'll happen. At best, I'd guess it's probably going to be a fine- IF they're found guilty and that's a big IF, given they can afford the best lawyers. I hate being cynical about it all and wish it weren't so but I just can't see it happening. Saying that, I didn't see the Premier League even charging them so there's some  hope to cling into.

Read this it's a good article and tells just how important this battle is.

https://t.co/DOuDmV4HdU

[rocco]

Skysports just said only 3 seasons league titles could be considered to be possibly taken away from City

2011/12  GD
2013/14  2 pts
2017/18 19 points

[Hazell]

Mate, its over a 100 breaches. IF they get found guilty they aren't just getting away with a slap on the wrist and a fine.

I hope you're right. And where's this positivity in the main forum?

[stockdam]

Will they start booing the Premier League anthem now then? 

Well funny that you should mention that....here's one of their posts.


"Going to boo the Premier League anthem now."

[jillc]

Skysports just said only 3 seasons league titles could be considered to be possibly taken away from City

2011/12  GD
2013/14  2 pts
2017/18 19 points

They don't know that they are still investigating them to the present day.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Skysports just said only 3 seasons league titles could be considered to be possibly taken away from City

2011/12  GD
2013/14  2 pts
2017/18 19 points

Yes, today's charges are for the 2009-2018 period. Any later breaches of the rules are yet to be determined, since Man City have refused to hand over the evidence ...

[MonsLibpool]

Don't forget how they robbed Watford too.

This made a mockery of such a prestigious competition.

[rushyman]

Where do the premier league go if city beat this ?

That’s a lot of charges

They’ll be fucked

[kevmck]

Prepare yourself for the funniest eight minutes of radio.

https://youtu.be/eOIEN7rm-pE

Exactly what it says on the tin.. thought Gaz was going to stroke out there for a minute 

[Flaccido Dongingo]

They don't know that they are still investigating them to the present day.

They have to be, especially the Haaland "only £51m" transfer, when we all know it's probably cost them about 4 times that figure initially.

[Solomon Grundy]

And where's this positivity in the main forum?

It's hard to be positive about the reds at the moment. It hurts seeing them struggle like this. I just want to know what the owners plan on doing with us. Then we can perhaps look forward to something better next season.

[Andypandimonium]

The independent tribunal are going to come under a lot of pressure, I'm sure of that. I suspect that this will be a line in the sand exercise where the PL Execs (who love money as much as anyone) are seen to be doing the right thing and putting a lid on the ridiculous spending some clubs are able to make without selling players, whilst not impacting their brand going forward. Everything that came before will be what it was but we'll be fairer next season type affair. Give us £20M to spend on grass roots and all will be forgiven. But, they could have just brushed it all off as too difficult, and having now announced the charges, if the tribunal is truly independent and containing persons of Corinthian spirit, well, who knows what might happen. Seems more interest in the story in foreign media outlets than in England which tells its own story.

[Redsnappa]

Well funny that you should mention that....here's one of their posts.


"Going to boo the Premier League anthem now."

... and they wonder why everyone laughs at them 

[rocco]

Yes, today's charges are for the 2009-2018 period. Any later breaches of the rules are yet to be determined, since Man City have refused to hand over the evidence ...

So why not every season in that period

[Barneylfc∗]

Skysports just said only 3 seasons league titles could be considered to be possibly taken away from City

2011/12  GD
2013/14  2 pts
2017/18 19 points

They should be given a 15 point penalty for these 3 seasons.
In the 3 seasons after these, it should only be a 3 point penalty as they're only being investigated for failure to comply rather than outright cheating 

[didi shamone]

Mental that Citys owners aren't even the worst in the premier league.

[Samie]

Sky trying to spin this in a way to make it seem Man City doing nothing wrong. 

[PeterTheRed ...]

So why not every season in that period

It is every season in that period. The 3 seasons you have mentioned are the seasons when Man City have won the title, hence the possibility of them being taken away ...

[stevieG786]

can someone break it down in simple terms of what they have done/been charged with?

[Barneylfc∗]

can someone break it down in simple terms of what they have done/been charged with?

Cheating and lying.

[rocco]

It is every season in that period. The 3 seasons you have mentioned are the seasons when Man City have won the title, hence the possibility of them being taken away ...

Ok , makes obvious sense

I was thinking no charges the other seasons

[jillc]

can someone break it down in simple terms of what they have done/been charged with?

This article explains it.

https://t.co/DOuDmV4HdU

[Trada]

Surely every cup and title they won after they first cheated is tainted and springs from that date so should be taken away and given to the runner ups.

[rob1966]

Abu Dhabi bought these as a sportwashing project, which up to now has worked pretty well. This is now damaging the project and its going to get to a point where it's doing more harm than good, it's gonna be funny as fuck when they pull the fake deals and walk away and City go back to being skint.

[stockdam]

Exactly what it says on the tin.. thought Gaz was going to stroke out there for a minute 

"hang on, hang one.......City respect the league".

Yeah they respect it that much that the league are not investigating 100 offences.

[4pool]

Mike Ashley loves buying distressed footy clubs..

[didi shamone]

Sky trying to spin this in a way to make it seem Man City doing nothing wrong. 

They'll have been in meetings all day about how to preserve the golden goose and make sure the case for the ESL doesn't get stronger.
24 hour propaganda whilst trying to maintain the veneer of impartiality is a complicated gig.

[stockdam]

Surely every cup and title they won after they first cheated is tainted and springs from that date so should be taken away and given to the runner ups.

Absolutely. Anyone who cheats in sport should have all the trophies taken away that they cheated to get otherwise the cheating was justified. Those who cam second should get the trophies as they would have won.

[cormorant]

I love the way people say stuff like this. I am guessing you were also saying nothing would actually happen at all weren't you? Yet despite City's lawyers playing every trick in the book they are today facing 101 charges. Also, the world will be on this case there is no way the PL can afford to do anything other than seriously punish them should they be found guilty. Think of the teams who lost the chance to play in Europe, the sponsors cheated out of their own revenue. This is way to big for a mere slap on the wrist.

Doesn't matter.

Money talks. Just look at the Newcastle takeover and all the shit that the government must have let pass to let that one through. Defence contract with a British arms company? Free pass.

Of course it should have implications, but deep down, I suspect that you know that they'll kick the can so far down the road that it minimises the impact of any meaningful punishment whatsoever. 100 charges or thereabouts seems massive on the face of it but I would bet last dirham that they get off with no more than a minor to middling slap on the wrist. Get out of jail card for 'levelling up' the local community, international relations, etc, etc.

Opinions eh?

[rob1966]

If the emails were obtained illegally how can they be admissable as evidence? They will get off we all know it.

The PL could have just fined them for not co-operating and left it at that. They've actually gone after them and they are not going to get off.

[PeterTheRed ...]

They'll have been in meetings all day about how to preserve the golden goose and make sure the case for the ESL doesn't get stronger.
24 hour propaganda whilst trying to maintain the veneer of impartiality is a complicated gig.

Well, if Sky Sports want to keep their golden goose and prevent the ESL, defending Man City is the last thing they should do ...