Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé

[Terry de Niro]

You do realise that whatever is said in here will have no influence on who Klopp and the team decide to buy?

You following me around on here?

[Hazell]

I am from former Yugoslavia. Even today quite often I go to the Hajduk - Dinamo derby, although mostly in Split ...

Any players from those we should be signing?

[Barefoot Doctor]

Jurrien Timber "will probably go to Liverpool" according to Andy van der Meije and Wesley Sneijder. - via @Sport_Witness

[Agent99]

Yeah, he seemed quite pointed that it was the plan to change the way we play at some point anyway and the way the season has panned out has meant he's done it earlier than originally anticipated. I was really surprised at that.

Hmm this doesn't make sense to me. Why didn't we start the season with the new system or change to it earlier when results were poor? If Gakpo was fundamental to it then why not buy him last summer? Why buy Nunez who does not suit this system at all?

[jillcwhomever]

It’s not depressing, but a few good games at the tail end of a crap season does not solve midfield issues that have plagued us all season. Sign some midfielders asap.

Klopp has already indicated that the business is underway already, so I'd say that would imply we are going to buy some players. But we need options and also competition among all the places in the squad.

[ScouserAtHeart]

Jurrien Timber "will probably go to Liverpool" according to Andy van der Meije and Wesley Sneijder. - via @Sport_Witness

well that's settled then

[Garlicbread]

His missus was apparently looking at houses last month.

[Henry Gale]

Jurrien Timber "will probably go to Liverpool" according to Andy van der Meije and Wesley Sneijder. - via @Sport_Witness

Is that the Ajax player who Man Utd tried to sign in the summer but turned out too expensive?

[Max_powers]

Jurrien Timber "will probably go to Liverpool" according to Andy van der Meije and Wesley Sneijder. - via @Sport_Witness

From a Treble winner to a transfer chancer, how the mighty have fallen.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Jurrien Timber "will probably go to Liverpool" according to Andy van der Meije and Wesley Sneijder. - via @Sport_Witness

In what context are van der Maije and Sneijder talking about this? Did some dude just ask them or something?

[CraigDS]

Jurrien Timber "will probably go to Liverpool" according to Andy van der Meije and Wesley Sneijder. - via @Sport_Witness

If he doesn't have a song to Timber by Pitbull by the end of Sept then I for one will be disapointed.

[Asam]

can’t wait for the kesha song to do everyone’s head in

[Hazell]

Hmm this doesn't make sense to me. Why didn't we start the season with the new system or change to it earlier when results were poor? If Gakpo was fundamental to it then why not buy him last summer? Why buy Nunez who does not suit this system at all?

Presumably we started the season thinking we'd be fine carrying on? Klopp didn't specifically mention Gakpo being fundamental but I'm guessing we changed when Klopp thought we can maybe sacrifice some part of this season to try and get a bit of headstart for next season given how poor we were? Personally I like Nunez but Gakpo certainly seems a better fit for the team as it stands.

Ultimately I don't know. I think your questions are better directed to Klopp!

[Garlicbread]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbn4HB8otmw

Haha what the hell.

[rob1966]

He's worth what we say that he's worth & we shouldn't be taking a penny less than Ł35m

Exactly.

If Ali decided to leave end of the season, there isn't another PL keeper I'd bring in, I'd promote Kelleher to No1. We've all seen how good he is, it's just that he's never going to displace Ali (no-one would)

[Lynndenberries]

Only have seen Timber during the World Cup and can’t say I was terribly impressed. Seems like he might be a good utility player at the right price though.

[Agent99]

Presumably we started the season thinking we'd be fine carrying on? Klopp didn't specifically mention Gakpo being fundamental but I'm guessing we changed when Klopp thought we can maybe sacrifice some part of this season to try and get a bit of headstart for next season given how poor we were? Personally I like Nunez but Gakpo certainly seems a better fit for the team as it stands.

Ultimately I don't know. I think your questions are better directed to Klopp!

I'm writing a letter as we speak It was more rhetorical. Sorry it was Lijnders who said Gakpo was the missing link to our system.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Exactly.

If Ali decided to leave end of the season, there isn't another PL keeper I'd bring in, I'd promote Kelleher to No1. We've all seen how good he is, it's just that he's never going to displace Ali (no-one would)

Same here as there aren't many better than him & he's better than any English keeper despite (checks notes) not having played a single minute of League football.

[tubby]

Timber makes sense if we're moving forward with this formation as he's equally comfortable at right back or in midfield, but he's a different midfielder to Trent and doesn't have anywhere near the same playmaking skills.  But then who does.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

I can only remember Timber playing against us, where he was a centre back but kept popping up as a striker. Am I right in thinking he hasn't been great this year?

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Timber makes sense if we're moving forward with this formation as he's equally comfortable at right back or in midfield, but he's a different midfielder to Trent and doesn't have anywhere near the same playmaking skills.  But then who does.

Very solid player, like an Oak you could say.

[Sheer Magnetism]

Yeah I’m going by Klopp’s standards, not Eddie Howes or Frank Lampard. Would rather have Kelleher than Pope, Martinez, Leno and Ramsdale. Haven’t seen enough of Raya and Mendy is very good. Still not five ahead of him for me.

Klopp rates him so highly he's given him a grand total of three appearances this year, in domestic cups. Pretty sure it won't be a tragedy if Adrian or whoever we get in on a free takes those. Ship him out with a buy back and a percentage of any future transfer and be done with it.

[CraigDS]

He looks pretty short, so can't see us wanting him for a CB role.

[Lone Star Red]

He's worth what we say that he's worth & we shouldn't be taking a penny less than Ł35m

[Too early for flapjacks?]

I thought Jurrien Timber stood out against us. Looked a classy player who looked well suited to playing as a DM. Maybe signing him is killing multiple birds with one stone if he can play CB, RB, and DM.

[Sangria]

It’s not depressing, but a few good games at the tail end of a crap season does not solve midfield issues that have plagued us all season. Sign some midfielders asap.

There are lots of issues with our midfield. Jones isn't one of them, other than his unavailability. Fabinho this summer and Henderson next would be.

[Sangria]

Very solid player, like an Oak you could say.

Not a particularly special player, merely oaky at best.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Man Utd told Jurrien Timber will 'probably' join Liverpool instead in Cody Gakpo repeat

Manchester United's summer target Jurrien Timber will likely join Liverpool this summer, it has been claimed.

Timber, who turned down a United move last summer, has been tipped to reject the Old Trafford club again as Ajax look to sell several of their star names to balance the books.

United are keen to bring in centre-back recruits, with the likes of Harry Maguire and Victor Lindelof likely to leave Old Trafford in the next window, and Timber is among several names the club are reportedly targeting.

Moreover, the 21-year-old has openly admitted that a transfer is possible at the end of the season. The Netherlands international told Ziggy Sport via Voetbal Primeur: "For me it is the same situation as last season. If I say: I'm leaving, it has to fit. Playing style is important, playing minutes… Participating in the prizes is also important. My favourite country? I dare not say that.

"That's why I'm doing the same as last season. The chance is there, it can happen, but I’m also good here. I'm still young and everything suits me here. I’m going to take a look."

However, should Timber leave he is more likely to join Liverpool than United, according to a pair of former Ajax stars. Such a situation would mirror Liverpool's acquisition of Cody Gakpo in the January window, after months of speculation linking the attacker to United.

Timber's future

Former Dutch footballers Andy van der Meije and Wesley Sneijder discussed the possibility of Timber leaving Ajax, with the former believing he is on his way to Anfield.

“They will need the next three years to fix the current problems,” said Sneijder via SportWitness.

“That will not recover within a year, right? I heard the salaries that are paid this week. That is around fifty million a year that they have to pay. That is no longer coming in. And they are not going to sell players very easily either.

“There may be eight or nine players that Ajax will have to say goodbye to. But you also have to fill that up with quality, if you want to re-join very quickly.”

Van der Meijde added: “I think they will do that in a different way with the youth.

“Álvarez will leave for forty million, Kudus for thirty million and Timber will probably go to Liverpool. They also pay crazy money. Then you can start building again.”




https://www.sportbible.com/football/man-utd-liverpool-transfer-news-jurrien-timber-ajax-834526-20230516

Ziggy Sport he’s signed hasn’t he

[slotmachine]

I do think Mount could work in our set up, but when has he proved to be this quality midfielder?

When he won Chelsea player of the year twice playing in Lampard and Tuchel's box midfield. It would be two out of Jorginho, Kante and Mateo Kovacic in the double pivot and Mount and Havertz as the two 10's playing inverted off the left and right and behind the central striker of Werner or Lukaku.

Mount has always been an attacking midfielder never a forward, positionally a 8 or a 10 and is a perfect fit in the system we look like we might be going to permanently. I think Mount also would be a great as the most offensive 8 in our 4-3-3 when and if we play that again. I could also see Mount being great in a false 9 role being so good tactically and great at setting pressing traps when the opposition are in the build up phase.

Watched a few highlights of Mount against us in the cup finals last year. He was a real pain and if his finishing was up to his normal standard we probably lose both cup finals. There is a great bit of play in the first half of the FA cup final were he sets a trap for VVD who plays it in to Thiago coming deep and Mount in the half space between Thiago and Robbo just presses and intercepts the ball off Thiago and puts Lukaku in.

There were loads of great pieces of play by Mount similar to this. Its so easy to see why Klopp and our coaches would love to get Mount. I love it that Klopp wants both Mount and McAllister who are both excellent players and also have the potential to improve another 20% under Klopp and in our system. I think both are so versatile tactically that they could play a number of diiferent roles in a box midfield.

[Asam]

As a centre back Timber's aerial stats aren't very promising even in Holland, but he is very good on the ball/progressing it so can see him make sense as a right back or a defensive midfielder

[Asam]

Man Utd told Jurrien Timber will 'probably' join Liverpool instead in Cody Gakpo repeat

Manchester United's summer target Jurrien Timber will likely join Liverpool this summer, it has been claimed.

Timber, who turned down a United move last summer, has been tipped to reject the Old Trafford club again as Ajax look to sell several of their star names to balance the books.

United are keen to bring in centre-back recruits, with the likes of Harry Maguire and Victor Lindelof likely to leave Old Trafford in the next window, and Timber is among several names the club are reportedly targeting.

Moreover, the 21-year-old has openly admitted that a transfer is possible at the end of the season. The Netherlands international told Ziggy Sport via Voetbal Primeur: "For me it is the same situation as last season. If I say: I'm leaving, it has to fit. Playing style is important, playing minutes… Participating in the prizes is also important. My favourite country? I dare not say that.

"That's why I'm doing the same as last season. The chance is there, it can happen, but I’m also good here. I'm still young and everything suits me here. I’m going to take a look."

However, should Timber leave he is more likely to join Liverpool than United, according to a pair of former Ajax stars. Such a situation would mirror Liverpool's acquisition of Cody Gakpo in the January window, after months of speculation linking the attacker to United.

Timber's future

Former Dutch footballers Andy van der Meije and Wesley Sneijder discussed the possibility of Timber leaving Ajax, with the former believing he is on his way to Anfield.

“They will need the next three years to fix the current problems,” said Sneijder via SportWitness.

“That will not recover within a year, right? I heard the salaries that are paid this week. That is around fifty million a year that they have to pay. That is no longer coming in. And they are not going to sell players very easily either.

“There may be eight or nine players that Ajax will have to say goodbye to. But you also have to fill that up with quality, if you want to re-join very quickly.”

Van der Meijde added: “I think they will do that in a different way with the youth.

“Álvarez will leave for forty million, Kudus for thirty million and Timber will probably go to Liverpool. They also pay crazy money. Then you can start building again.”




https://www.sportbible.com/football/man-utd-liverpool-transfer-news-jurrien-timber-ajax-834526-20230516

Ziggy Sport he’s signed hasn’t he

Kudus and Timber would be great signings and cost less than the "new Modric"

[Hazell]

I'm writing a letter as we speak It was more rhetorical. Sorry it was Lijnders who said Gakpo was the missing link to our system.

Oh yeah, it was Lijnders. All credit to the evil one for turning our form around.

[Funky_Gibbons]

You following me around on here?

How many times have I replied to you today, excluding this one?

How many in the last month?

[Asam]

Oh yeah, it was Lijnders. All credit to the evil one for turning our form around.

It will have a whole chapter dedicated to it in his next book no doubt

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Kudus and Timber would be great signings and cost less than the "new Modric"

Is Kudus the lad who scored the belter against us? If so, he’s a good player him.

[Hazell]

It will have a whole chapter dedicated to it in his next book no doubt

Always with the negativity.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Pretty sure it won't be a tragedy if Adrian takes those.

I dunno. He did a job for us but it doesn't fill me with anything but despair when i see his name on the sheet.

[Asam]

Is Kudus the lad who scored the belter against us? If so, he’s a good player him.

Yes he is, and he's got a very good understanding with Gravenberch

[Asam]

Always with the negativity.

It was in jest

[classycarra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbn4HB8otmw

Haha what the hell.

Footballers in cars talking to toffees