Ilkay is a lovely player. Some really good stuff on my stream.
They're saying Tuchel's brand of football is more refined but because of Bayern's financial dominance it is just a cheaper version of Munich's brand.
Klopp's team were more aggressive and not as refined but it bridged the gap in quality and Munich hated playing them.
Aye, I see posters regularly Klopp's achievements with BVB down, saying look at their form now with Tuchel...He's a more complete manager etc.
Klopp won trophies and got to cup finals regularly....until Tuchel does the same, he shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath no matter how much more "refined" or "multi-dimensional" his football may be.
Madrid also absolutely hated playing Dortmund. Even in the season they won the CL, an injury-ravaged Dortmund gave Madrid much more problems than Bayern, and if I recall correctly, should have advanced had Mkhitaryan not missed sitter after sitter at Westfalen.