Topic: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)

[killer-heels]

would love to hear this one..
shout out to the person above who said it might have changed and high value shots aren't a thing anymore... can you top it?

I dont believe it’s obvious that all the nerds will like him. Maybe they will, but to say definitively that he will be liked, dunno dont know how anyone can say that.

Either way I dont really care if they like him or not. As much as we joke, they dont run this club and shouldnt run this club.

Im keeping him by the way, i dont want him sold. But in the round every player needs to be looked at.

[Kopenhagen]

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[🟢] NEW: Nunez was very much a Klopp signing, with Liverpool’s recruitment team preferring Christopher Nkunku (Paul Joyce)

The wording shows what they think. "Very much" a Klopp signing and "had nothing to do with us".

Pretty funny considering Chelsea signed Nkunku and yet tried to sign Darwin last summer. 

Not really anything new, is it? Lijnders admitted as much in his book.

[killer-heels]

Pretty funny considering Chelsea signed Nkunku and yet tried to sign Darwin last summer. 

Not really anything new, is it? Lijnders admitted as much in his book.

Yeah its quite on the record that Ljinders and Klopp pushed for him.

[GreatEx]

Klopp hasn't even left and the absolute gobshites are leaking poison about him to the usual suspects. Sadly far too many on here are lapping it up.

The club is fucked if we are going back to the dark days of one section of the club briefing against another. Not surprising Edwards coming back was played out in the media. The club needs to get rid of anyone leaking to the media. It is an absolute joke that the team news is available on the internet hours before kick of. I wonder how many managers have changed their line up after seeing ours.

Agreed, brings back very bad memories and besides,  as others have mentioned, why would you brag about your preference for a bloke who's managed just 2 goals and 317 minutes in the league?

[PaleBlueDot]

Timing of that Nunez byline is very telling.

Putting the blame very publicly at Klopp's feet which he can take with him as he exits, distancing the recruitment dept from any loss we take on any possible departure.

Didn't think we'd entertain moving him out with so long still on his contract but those noises are being made for a reason, and being made now for a reason.

100% this.

[PaleBlueDot]

Klopp hasn't even left and the absolute gobshites are leaking poison about him to the usual suspects. Sadly far too many on here are lapping it up.

The club is fucked if we are going back to the dark days of one section of the club briefing against another. Not surprising Edwards coming back was played out in the media. The club needs to get rid of anyone leaking to the media. It is an absolute joke that the team news is available on the internet hours before kick of. I wonder how many managers have changed their line up after seeing ours.

I don't think this harms anyone? This doesn't dent Klopp's stock in the slightest and will allow them to do what they have to do with less push-back. It's tactical.

Much agreed with any leaking though, especially line-ups.

[Cpt_Reina]

It reminds me of the end of Rodgers' tenure with the  articles stating that this or that player was the manager's signing.

There was an article saying the same thing last season so I guess the data guys don't rate him which is ironic reading his thread.

Very much shades of that yeah.

There was always going to be victims of a change in regime, Darwin being one of them isn't one I'd seen coming but it does appear to be being setup. Those lines about him being Klopp's guy, not ours haven't come out of nowhere.

[PaleBlueDot]

Nkunku 😂

Dodged a bullet considering his injury record. He's a superior footballer to Nunez in every way though.

[bornandbRED]

Looks like the good times are back then. Klopp going leaves a huge vacuum at the top of the club. Think Carragher mentioned it yesterday - we need a leader to unite the fanbase more than anything

[smicer07]

But Nunez is miles better than sick note Nkunku so I don't see the point of Joyce's statement. It hardly paints the Nkunku fans within the club in a good light.

[wemmick]

I think we'd be mad to bin him at this point. We have much greater needs elsewhere in the squad. I do think the management needs a greater emphasis on developing his shot conversion. His defense has come on leaps and bounds this season. His pressing isn't hopeless anymore, but it seems to come at the expense of finishing consistently. I don't care if he becomes a Haaland-type player if he learns to finish better. The high shooting volume approach doesn't seem to work with him like it did with Mo and Mane.   

[Kopenhagen]

Definitely has end of Rodgers vibes - Edwards and his team leaking things to the media, etc.; and Rodgers running to his scumbag mouthpiece Neil Ashton.

[PaleBlueDot]

But Nunez is miles better than sick note Nkunku so I don't see the point of Joyce's statement. It hardly paints the Nkunku fans within the club in a good light.

 

The only metric Nunez is better in is availability.

[johnathank]

Wait wait wait wait wait

You saying our team of nerds are not actually nerds? Have we just been invaded by hipsters instead?!

This changes fucking everything

Everything old is new again. In no time at all, we’ll have scouts watching football matches to see how good the players are instead of looking at spreadsheets. The horror.

[Lynndenberries]

Everything old is new again. In no time at all, we’ll have scouts watching football matches to see how good the players are instead of looking at spreadsheets. The horror.

Would be a shame. We’ll actively get worse. We should probably do both of those things.

[Wool]

Huh so it seems the nerds might not actually rate him after all because these seem like calculated briefings to me.

[mullyred94]

The only metric Nunez is better in is availability.

Don't make stuff up

[Wghennessy]

Nunez is frustrating as hell but at the end of the day he has 31 G/As this season which is an incredible return.

[Eeyore]

Very much shades of that yeah.

There was always going to be victims of a change in regime, Darwin being one of them isn't one I'd seen coming but it does appear to be being setup. Those lines about him being Klopp's guy, not ours haven't come out of nowhere.

They come out everytime he has a bad run. It is pathetic. Last summer the Athletic was running hatchet pieces against Klopp some of it very personal. People at our Football club are leaking to the press and it needs to stop.

[TepidT2O]

Nunez is frustrating as hell but at the end of the day he has 31 G/As this season which is an incredible return.

Same as Ollie Watkins that isn’t it?

[Fromola]

Timing of that Nunez byline is very telling.

Putting the blame very publicly at Klopp's feet which he can take with him as he exits, distancing the recruitment dept from any loss we take on any possible departure.

Didn't think we'd entertain moving him out with so long still on his contract but those noises are being made for a reason, and being made now for a reason.

I think it's putting a marker down that the model is changing back to being more data led. Klopp was given more free reign post-Edwards (including Schmadtke coming in).

We'd be open to offers i'd imagine. Plus about a quarter or a fifth of his full transfer fee is incentives based. We've probably got 10 million or so left in installments.

[Samie]

He will have to have the season of his life next season if he stays. Otherwise he's gone come next summer.

[killer-heels]

They come out everytime he has a bad run. It is pathetic. Last summer the Athletic was running hatchet pieces against Klopp some of it very personal. People at our Football club are leaking to the press and it needs to stop.

That leak has been had before though. Not sure why its been regurgitated again though. I would think that is because a journalist has decided to revisit it but because Joyce is reporting as well as Bascombe, seems like some loose lipped prick has fed that out again.

[NickoH]

He's the most marmite player we have both within our fan base and elsewhere. His inconsistency is baffling at times. One minute he can't trap a ball, the next he'll smash one in the roof of the net. Seems like when he's good, he's very good and when he's off it, he's dreadful. Signs of small improvements but then he takes a couple of steps backwards with performances like last night. Would I keep him? Probably. Would I trust him at the moment to spearhead a title charge? Most definitely not.

[Eeyore]

That leak has been had before though. Not sure why its been regurgitated again though. I would think that is because a journalist has decided to revisit it but because Joyce is reporting as well as Bascombe, seems like some loose lipped prick has fed that out again.

The Athletic is basically the clubs PR department.

[JRed]

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[🟢] NEW: Nunez was very much a Klopp signing, with Liverpool’s recruitment team preferring Christopher Nkunku (Paul Joyce)

The wording shows what they think. "Very much" a Klopp signing and "had nothing to do with us".

Klopp very much wins that one then!

[Fromola]

Nunez is frustrating as hell but at the end of the day he has 31 G/As this season which is an incredible return.

It's unfortunate that he hit the buffers the same time as Salah has, plus Jota's injury (neither of them have barely scored since Brentford away and Darwin hasn't picked up the slack and he's stopped scoring himself).. That's when we've needed him to step up and he hasn't. He's our main striker.

I know Bobby contributed more, but if he wasn't scoring then it didn't matter because Salah and/or Mane were.

[Samie]

Darwin wasn't a data driven signing more of a Pep and Kloppo signing. Thought it was obvious. There were articles done about it when he was signed. 

[Kopenhagen]

The Athletic is basically the clubs PR department.

? That'd be awful strange considering the revolting shite the likes of Simon Hughes have written.

[Fromola]

Darwin wasn't a data driven signing more of a Pep and Kloppo signing. Thought it was obvious. There were articles done about it when he was signed. 

It smacked too much of him tearing us to shreds a bit in the Benfica game, let's get him in. A bit like Rodgers with Benteke.

That's what the data led approach is designed to help avoid. Do the due diligence.

[killer-heels]

Darwin wasn't a data driven signing more of a Pep and Kloppo signing. Thought it was obvious. There were articles done about it when he was signed. 

Ljinders said as much in his book.

[Son of Spion]

The abuse I'm seeing him getting online is an absolute disgrace. It seems he's the scapegoat for a collective collapse. It's grim reading out there. He's not perfect, but wow.

[dai_bonehead]

Nunez is frustrating as hell but at the end of the day he has 31 G/As this season which is an incredible return.

Indeed. And he is a young player still. He needs to go through the ups and downs to build his mettle. I think he'll get there sooner rather than later; at the moment the team is lacking in terms of coordination in the front 3 - we're a long way from the preternatural understanding of Mo, sadio, and Bobby.

And thinking of the midfield - Dom will also develop over time.

I am disappointed with the weay the season is ending but if I frame in in the correct context of where we are in the bigger picture.....we're potentially set up for good things if the next manager can get a tune out of the players.

[koptommy93]

Briefing against him in the press is a dickhead move and will do fuck all to help.

[JackWard33]

The abuse I'm seeing him getting online is an absolute disgrace. It seems he's the scapegoat for a collective collapse. It's grim reading out there. He's not perfect, but wow.

Carragher, the red men , taw have all basically soleley blamed him so the permission structures been created … it’s open season apparently

[JRed]

The abuse I'm seeing him getting online is an absolute disgrace. It seems he's the scapegoat for a collective collapse. It's grim reading out there. He's not perfect, but wow.

Only dickheads give abuse , the internet has a lot to answer for.

We all keep waiting for him to improve but I think he is already at his level. He’s ok for a back up striker but don’t see him as the future of the club anymore.

[alonsoisared]

Briefing against him in the press is a dickhead move and will do fuck all to help.

Yep, there's no need for it at all.

[Draex]

How about Joyce then?


You haven't got a clue what Edwards will value. Nobody knows what metrics they value. They wanted Bruno Guimaraes but Klopp refused to part with one of Hendo/Milner. They wanted Nkuku but Klopp stuck on Nunez. I see no reason for them to show love to Nunez.

Whens that from? It's not from today.

[Draex]

Yep, there's no need for it at all.

What's been briefed today? Anyone got the link?

[Son of Spion]

Carragher, the red men , taw have all basically soleley blamed him so the permission structures been created … it’s open season apparently

It's genuinely distasteful. He's not perfect, but he's far from being the architect of our downfall. The blame should be spread a whole lot further than one player. If one man is costing us, he gets substituted and the rest perform. Thing is, this is a collective collapse, and blaming one player is grossly unfair and unjust. You could put prime Messi up front for us currently and we'd still have 70% possession and lose 1-0 to a first minute goal.

I can understand fans being emotional and frustrated, but you expect more from ex pros and people making a living out of commenting on the game.