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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2005, 05:40:28 pm »
Fitzyboy; do you come from a well off family and were you heckled walking through town anytime in the last week by any chance?

The stereotyping is unbelievable in that post sir, so...I'll stereotype you - am i close?
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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2005, 05:55:48 pm »
It all begins at home if ya gonna lay blame then ya gotta blame the parents.

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2005, 06:00:37 pm »
i find this weird, i wear hoody's but not a chav, because they're not white and nike/burberry/adidas. I'm far from a chav infact.

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2005, 06:15:16 pm »
i find this weird, i wear hoody's but not a Chelsea, because they're not white and nike/burberry/adidas. I'm far from a Chelsea infact.

You must be. Didn't you know every single young person is a trouble making, foul mouthed cretin who terrorizes nice innocent people? Especially those nasty little bastards who hang around town because they've got nowhere else to go - Ooh evil little bastards, spawn of Satan!  :P
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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2005, 06:56:01 pm »
i wear a hoodie sometimes and a cap,does that make me an automatic thug?!

i wear that shit cos' i like the look of it,but the youth of today ruin this by wearing hoodies to look cool,and as for them hanging around the streets,i can't stand it,i even worry about my little brother getting his head kicked in on the way home,and it doesnt make it any better as he is black and has already been asaulted several times cos' of his race,they all need rounding up and shooting  :wanker (the bad ones anyway,cos' some of them are as soft as shit really)  :-\
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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2005, 06:56:43 pm »
i wear a hoodie sometimes and cap,does that make me an automatic thug?!

Yes.

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2005, 07:05:10 pm »
read again!

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2005, 07:23:37 pm »
So 15 years or so since thatcher quit she is still being blamed for all the wrongs of today. I am suprised no one has blamed the iraq conflict on her.

Agree completely. Takes the piss at times, it really does...Obviously times were hard in Liverpool under Thatcher but threads like these and other manifestations [anti-Englishness for one] suggest that a few of our fans need to start living in the here and now rather than raking up past bitternesses and blaming everyone else outside Merseyside for all social ills. Not criticising anyone in particular mind... :-\

Not all of what Thatcher did was bad...but all that is in another thread and from long experience I would be wasting my time trying to convince anyone here otherwise so I wont bother

r.e. the hoodie problem...some may blame the actions of certain troublemaking individuals who sport this type of attire on the increasingly liberalised nature of society since Blair had come in to power! Not clear cut at all, it's down to a combination of factors I think and cannot be blamed on one individual alone :-\
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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2005, 07:34:24 pm »
Fitzyboy; do you come from a well off family and were you heckled walking through town anytime in the last week by any chance?

The stereotyping is unbelievable in that post sir, so...I'll stereotype you - am i close?

Yes, I am middle-class, not ashamed of it, why should I be? I've also never been abused by any youth in the street, I spend my time teaching them in the classroom. The point I'm making in the post is not a "Daily Mail" attack on yob-culture -- a tabloid sensation. It is in fact an attack on previous government's that have created a society where image, wealth and material status are paramount, over and above the prioritisation of developing more important aspects of personal development that allows the individual to be educated, well rounded and to not worship false gods - being pounds and dollars.

I'm not sure what stereotyping I'm guilty of to be honest. I'm daring to suggest that many (not all) young people are socially repugnant - the legacy of an 80s administration that told us that society didn't matter and personal wealth and status were all that mattered. What do you expect?


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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2005, 10:11:41 pm »
r.e. the hoodie problem...some may blame the actions of certain troublemaking individuals who sport this type of attire on the increasingly liberalised nature of society since Blair had come in to power! Not clear cut at all, it's down to a combination of factors I think and cannot be blamed on one individual alone :-\

What liberalisation of society would this be ? straw ? blunkett ? clarke ? Three of the most right wing home secretaries in living memory ?

And you might want to consider the linguistic implications of the term 'englishness.'

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2005, 10:13:56 pm »
I just find that opening post so wide open its almost unnerving, and to know you're teaching kids with that attitude is frankly quite disturbing. Hopefully you stick to the syllabus and don't impart too much personal influence on them!  :P

Just to give you a brief outline of some former 'hoodies' (I'm still not sure what that is exactly but you seem to be describing what we were just 8-10 years ago so I'll continue)... A Police officer, A Student teacher, A professional photographer, A masters degree student and two who are now serving their country in the land and sea forces respectfully, to name just a few who I'm up to speed with.

I wouldn't be so quick to point the finger.


*The spell check suggests 'Howdies' for 'Hoodies' - i much prefer that.
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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #51 on: September 27, 2005, 10:22:03 pm »
Fuckin' Hoodies

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2005, 10:23:45 pm »
A Police officer, A professional photographer, A masters degree student and two who are now serving their country in the land and sea forces


So... a thug in uniform, a yob to record their happy slapping, a perpetual dosser on my taxes and two who enjoy shouting and violence?

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2005, 10:29:03 pm »
;D Yep. Bastardized nation of hoolies!
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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2005, 10:41:09 pm »
It's not a modern phenomenon you know.



Here we see medieval hoodies conning a defenceless elderly gentleman out of his alms money. In fact these groups of hoodies got so powerful that Henry VIII was forced to serve them with an ASBO.
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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2005, 10:59:52 pm »
Here we see medieval hoodies conning a defenceless elderly gentleman out of his alms money. In fact these groups of hoodies got so powerful that Henry VIII was forced to serve them with an ASBO.

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2005, 11:02:02 pm »
If this was an anti Blair thread it would be deleted. Left wing agenda rules on here.

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2005, 11:05:24 pm »
Ante-Stuart Beheading Order?

Of course... ;D :lmao
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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2005, 11:25:25 pm »
Ante-Stuart Beheading Order?

What could he have against the Stuarts when he reigned before James I?   ???

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #59 on: September 27, 2005, 11:32:33 pm »
Theres very little respect from young teenagers for their elders, whether thats always been the case is dubious . In the 60/70s and before perhaps if you were out of line a teacher or a parent gave you a clip round the ear or a beating. Those who were given the power of corporal punishment often abused it, i.e teachers beating students for nothing inparticular, very human trait of abusing any delegated power, and in an attempt to rectify that we've overshot the other way and you cant touch a kid without being sued, or sacked or labelled a paedophile. You give a kid whose out of line a clip round the ear and their parents will be around and in your face where before perhaps if you came home and said so and so gave me a whack youd get asked why and maybe get another one from your parents!. Somehow somewhere people lost respect for each other, and maybe thats where the Thatcher argument comes in. But eitherway, kids are now untouchable, and they know it.

The problem truly begins at home though, I believe.
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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #60 on: September 27, 2005, 11:44:28 pm »

Murdoch and Sky have at least as much to do with Britain's dumbing down as the bitch, IMO...

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #61 on: September 28, 2005, 12:49:52 am »
Murdoch and Sky have at least as much to do with Britain's dumbing down as the bitch, IMO...

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« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2005, 01:06:09 am »
What could he have against the Stuarts when he reigned before James I?   ???

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #63 on: September 28, 2005, 10:30:59 am »
to know you're teaching kids with that attitude is frankly quite disturbing. Hopefully you stick to the syllabus and don't impart too much personal influence on them!  :P


WHAT?!
What a load of sanctimonious clap-trap. I'm more than happy  to "impart" my personal influence. What exactly have I said that is so reprehensble? Apart from pointing out that society is laden with a moral vacuum and that the celebration of vacuous materialism has created a warped sense of what is important in life. In my mind trying to do something to reverse this trend is a good thing, not bad.

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #64 on: September 28, 2005, 11:13:28 am »
WHAT?!
What a load of sanctimonious clap-trap. I'm more than happy  to "impart" my personal influence. What exactly have I said that is so reprehensble? Apart from pointing out that society is laden with a moral vacuum and that the celebration of vacuous materialism has created a warped sense of what is important in life. In my mind trying to do something to reverse this trend is a good thing, not bad.

I'd be quite concerned if my lad was being taught by a teacher with the sort of illogical prejudices that your posts in this thread have displayed. I'd normally be all for a teacher trying to give some wider background but you seem to be demonising the working classes and blaming the Thatcher government for everything whether they are responsible or not.

Your spelling is also atrocious for a teacher  ;)
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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #65 on: September 28, 2005, 11:21:08 am »
i blame fucking.
theres too many of us.

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Re: Hoodies = Children of Thatcher
« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2005, 11:24:36 am »
If this was an anti Blair thread it would be deleted. Left wing agenda rules on here.

Blair - left wing? ;D

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« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2005, 11:36:22 am »
Typical, everyone is concerned with neighbourhoodies not neighbourhoods.


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« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2005, 11:51:58 am »
Blair - left wing? ;D

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« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2005, 12:03:43 pm »
"we need a right winger and a central defender"

 ;D Superb

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« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2005, 12:07:45 pm »
i blame fucking.
theres too many of us.

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« Reply #71 on: September 28, 2005, 12:08:13 pm »
Typical, everyone is concerned with neighbourhoodies not neighbourhoods.


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« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2005, 12:11:36 pm »
Aye! but you're Impartial... :P

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« Reply #74 on: September 28, 2005, 12:13:28 pm »
MM?

Superb that man!!!! Di Iawn et chawarae teg.


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« Reply #75 on: September 28, 2005, 12:14:57 pm »
MM?

Who also, pertinently to this thread, said:
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« Reply #77 on: September 28, 2005, 12:18:46 pm »
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« Reply #78 on: September 28, 2005, 12:22:57 pm »
Superb that man!!!! Di Iawn et chawarae teg.



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« Reply #79 on: September 28, 2005, 12:25:06 pm »
Not at the game tonight, but will hold you to that pie  ;)

Not literally- that would be inconvenient and messy.


 ;D ;)

You are on. the next time you are up I will shout you a pie and a pint and a bit of a natter.

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