Topic: Man City - cheating bastards rumbled

[Lee1-6Liv]

City supporters club secretary on Sky Sports just now saying UEFA are not a very clever organisation because they haven't thought of what they will do if City win the Champions League 

[CraigDS]

They should just hack UEFA. Worked for us.

[Ma Vie en Rouge]

Some Man City fan suggesting that this will end with Man City being awarded £100 million "or more" in damages.

I mean... I know football is corrupt and fucked, but City fans have totally lost their minds. You don't support cheating. You don't support regimes that torture and kill people for disagreeing with them. But no, they are all convinced that they occupy some moral high ground, and will emerge the better for the battle.

Fuck them. I hope they get relegated and disappear until they re-emerge as a proper club again, without all this shit. They've lost everything that mattered about that club, and it's a disgrace that it was allowed to happen.

[rafathegaffa83]

Telegraph Football@TeleFootball
Pep Guardiola will consider his future as manager in the summer, Telegraph Sport understands, unless the club is able to overturn a verdict which condemns "serious breaches" in payments by executives. 

[Son of Spion]

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Big question here about the credibility of the English press. It took a German newspaper to uncover all this, so begs the question what the fuck were the English papers doing? Forget about the tabloid rags, I'm talking about your 'serious' broadsheets.

Too scared to 'rock the boat'? Weaklings the lot of them, too busy propping up fairytales like a now proven financially corrupt multi-billionaire club beating the likes of the, erm, mighty QPR.

The English press's claim to fame is a myth, independent my arse. Only David Conn pursued this with any vigour and he himself was a boyhood City fan for fuck sake.

While German sports press were doing an unbelievable job, we have to keep up with the likes of Hodgson's boyfriend Henry Winter as one of the peak writers of English football. Barrels being scraped indeed.

[Asam]

Strangely enough, the question of why the English media don't look more into the City situation was asked on Sunday Supplement some time ago. I can't remember which journalists were on the show, but some felt quite restricted about doing it, feeling they didn't know enough to comment on it. Another reason was they felt this was beyond a sports journalist type story, it was a much bigger story than they felt able to take on, there was also the point of City banning them or suing their newspaper. If the ban gets upheld I think things will change.

A) you need actual journalists who know how to research and write a proper story
B) you need an editorial team who want to bring corruption to light rather than going for easy copy to sell
C) you need someone not afraid to go after a very rich and powerful club and not fear the consequences


None of those things exist in English football media in the U.K we’ve been sky sports news’d to the point of not even knowing what journalists are supposed to fucking do for a living

[Asam]

Telegraph Football@TeleFootball
Pep Guardiola will consider his future as manager in the summer, Telegraph Sport understands, unless the club is able to overturn a verdict which condemns "serious breaches" in payments by executives. 

Juventus want him so might add up

[rebel23]

Manchester City are now facing a Premier League points deduction, as their punishment for “serious breaches” of Uefa Financial Fair Play also represents a breach of the domestic competition’s regulations.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-banned-champions-league-premier-points-uefa-fair-play-a9336946.html

[ScouserAtHeart]

Saint Pep should resign on moral grounds.

Or will he show up to the next match wearing a sky blue ribbon in protest?

[CraigDS]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-banned-champions-league-premier-points-uefa-fair-play-a9336946.html

Save this until next season please, just to further wind them up.

[AmanShah21]

a French super club in Paris who can sell out their stadium is good for business, Man City are at best the 5th most relevant English club worldwide

5th is a stretch. I'd argue Leeds have more of a following worldwide than them.
At the very least
Liverpool
Utd
Chelsea
Arsenal
Spurs

all have much larger fanbases than them.

[Ghost Town]

Won't work like that surely?

It will; the ban can't start until the appeal process is exhausted, otherwise a litigant could get punished for something that the appellate process clears them of.

City have already indicated, in leaked emails, that they are prepared to pay tens of millions to hire the best lawyers to turn this into a sporting Jarndyce vs Jarndyce

[jillcwhomever]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-banned-champions-league-premier-points-uefa-fair-play-a9336946.html

Very interesting....

[rafathegaffa83]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-banned-champions-league-premier-points-uefa-fair-play-a9336946.html

From Miguel Delaney's piece

High-level sources say that will force the Premier League to act due to their own licensing, which pertains to Uefa’s Financial Fair Play regulations. The issue comes because any club has to supply true information to get a Premier League licence, and that information will have had to have matched that supplied to Uefa.

[rebel23]

Save this until next season please, just to further wind them up.

Yes, NEXT season please :-)

[Hazell]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-banned-champions-league-premier-points-uefa-fair-play-a9336946.html

The footballing Gods can't be this kind, surely?

[Son of Spion]

City should absolutely be stripped of the titles in the relevant seasons, any points deduction has to apply to the first season they are allowed back into Europe or it’s absolutely fucking meaningless.

If I was a Man City supporter I’d be fucking ashamed of my club today, everything they’ve won is basically meaningless now unless you are a morally bankrupt c*nt

But they don't care. They've known from the off what kind of monsters own them. They are also fully aware that their finances don't add up. They know full well they have comparatively few fans, have no national, never mind global, reach and they know quite well they are being sponsored by their own owners at vastly inflated rates. They do not care. They just want 'success' at any cost. The ones who didn't walk away once the torturers took them over are morally bankrupt and couldn't care less about it.

[Something Worse]

5th is a stretch. I'd argue Leeds have more of a following worldwide than them.
At the very least
Liverpool
Utd
Chelsea
Arsenal
Spurs

all have much larger fanbases than them.

No way do Leeds have a bigger fanbase worldwide. I don't even think Spurs do, but that's just a gut feeling.

[mattD]

Telegraph Football@TeleFootball
Pep Guardiola will consider his future as manager in the summer, Telegraph Sport understands, unless the club is able to overturn a verdict which condemns "serious breaches" in payments by executives. 

What other blood thirsty oil regime can he go and work for seeing as he's such a big fan of them? Pep's got deep enough pockets, expect to see him rock up in Paris soon.

[Ghost Town]

CAS judgments will have everything released to the public, not sure they’d really want that, didnt some hedge fund buy into them recently (as in the group)

Yep, this is the problem from City's point of view. If they take the judgement to appeals then more information will be made public, including potentially highly embarrassing stuff. They'll have to decide if it is worth that. There's a suggestion going round that ultimately, despite any immediate posturing, they will forgo an appeal.

Contrary to that is their own stated intention to pay the best lawyers whatever it takes to tied this up into years of legal wrangling. These two opposing dynamics are at work and it will be interesting to see which way it finally falls

[Dave D]

[kopite77]

The very top players won’t be going there without champions league.

They’ll still have Phil Foden, John Stones and Kyle Walker though!

[rebel23]

The footballing Gods can't be this kind, surely?

Just have to wait and see I guess..  Huge can of worms opened though.  Some posters on here have mentioned HMRC too...

[Eeyore]

Wouldn't 11/12 be under the PL's rules not UEFA's though?

The Premier league STCC didn't come in until 2013 and wasn't retrospective.

[Zeb]

Save this until next season please, just to further wind them up.

Backdating to time of offences please. No shitty 'you're not looking likely to win anyway, here's a 3 point deduction to take you to third, stop cryarsing it could've been worse' punishment.

[Son of Spion]

Saint Pep should resign on moral grounds.

Or will he show up to the next match wearing a sky blue ribbon in protest?

If he genuinely had any morals he'd never have gone to the Emptyhad in the first place.

[Durlmints]

Anyway here’s Wonderwall.

 

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

It will; the ban can't start until the appeal process is exhausted, otherwise a litigant could get punished for something that the appellate process clears them of.

City have already indicated, in leaked emails, that they are prepared to pay tens of millions to hire the best lawyers to turn this into a sporting Jarndyce vs Jarndyce

Chelsea's transfer ban stood whilst they appealed?

[TepidT2O]

Telegraph Football@TeleFootball
Pep Guardiola will consider his future as manager in the summer, Telegraph Sport understands, unless the club is able to overturn a verdict which condemns "serious breaches" in payments by executives. 

This is Pep who got offended when he was asked if he was paid money form other sources  to be city manager.


A question he spectacularly failed to answer.

[The North Bank]

Just need 6 more clubs to get banned and my team could be in CL next season.

It’s on !!

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

A 10points deduction for all seasons since 2013 should do it. Gives us 2 titles and United 1. City are still champions for their “centurion” season but no longer have that acclaim.

[Ratboy3G]

Big question here about the credibility of the English press. It took a German newspaper to uncover all this, so begs the question what the fuck were the English papers doing? Forget about the tabloid rags, I'm talking about your 'serious' broadsheets.

Too scared to 'rock the boat'? Weaklings the lot of them, too busy propping up fairytales like a now proven financially corrupt multi-billionaire club beating the likes of the, erm, mighty QPR.

The English press's claim to fame is a myth, independent my arse. Only David Conn pursued this with any vigour and he himself was a boyhood City fan for fuck sake.

While German sports press were doing an unbelievable job, we have to keep up with the likes of Hodgson's boyfriend Henry Winter as one of the peak writers of English football. Barrels being scraped indeed.

Spot on mate, the state of the English press is an embarrassment

[AmanShah21]

I want to now see what FA does. Does it have the cojones to back up its own rules?

[Samie]

Just need 6 more clubs to get banned and my team could be in CL next season.

It’s on !!

Arteta a genius mate.

[newterp]

But they don't care. They've known from the off what kind of monsters own them. They are also fully aware that their finances don't add up. They know full well they have comparatively few fans, have no national, never mind global, reach and they know quite well they are being sponsored by their own owners at vastly inflated rates. They do not care. They just want 'success' at any cost. The ones who didn't walk away once the torturers took them over are morally bankrupt and couldn't care less about it.

Yeah - they aren't ashamed at all. Instead - it's everyone elses fault and they are proud that they will hire the most expensive lawyers to fight this (despite the fact that the allegations are true).

[ScouserAtHeart]

From Miguel Delaney's piece

While there remains the possibility a high-priced legal battle could yet see the Champions League ban overturned, sources do not feel that will be the case with any Premier League punishment due to the specific situation.

[The North Bank]

Arteta a genius mate.

He left them because he wants European football. Can’t blame the lad for being ambitious.. 

[TepidT2O]

Just need 6 more clubs to get banned and my team could be in CL next season.

It’s on !!

6 so far.....

The season isn’t over yet

[dimwit]

They are the Prince Albert of European royalty.

fixed