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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6320 on: February 1, 2020, 11:31:07 pm »
World class game in game out.   He should be in the POTY conversation too.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6321 on: February 2, 2020, 12:14:30 am »
I think its possible that in Virg Gomez and Matip we have the best 3 centre backs in Europe. Not 3 of the best. The three best.  1-2-3.

Probable even.

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« Reply #6322 on: February 2, 2020, 02:27:05 am »
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6323 on: February 2, 2020, 10:41:16 pm »
He should be the POTY again and probably the Ballon D'or as well. He's that good. He's now doing the defender's equivalent of scoring 50 goals a season.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6324 on: February 2, 2020, 11:52:54 pm »
Is he our finest center back ever? Up there with Sami, Lawrenson and Hansen?

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6325 on: February 2, 2020, 11:58:07 pm »
Is he our finest center back ever? Up there with Sami, Lawrenson and Hansen?

He's better than Sami by miles and miles, it's not even close.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6326 on: February 3, 2020, 02:00:56 am »
He's better than Sami by miles and miles, it's not even close.

Always loved Sami and always will but, agreed. Not even close.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6327 on: February 3, 2020, 04:00:39 am »
Is he our finest center back ever? Up there with Sami, Lawrenson and Hansen?

Comfortably better than all three.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6328 on: February 3, 2020, 04:03:24 am »
Is he our finest center back ever? Up there with Sami, Lawrenson and Hansen?

Best I've seen but defer to those with adult memories of watching the latter two before the mid-to-late 80s or can go further back. I mean, Emlyn Hughes was who the auld arses used to use to judge Hansen and Gillespie.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6329 on: February 3, 2020, 06:23:02 am »
Is he our finest center back ever? Up there with Sami, Lawrenson and Hansen?

Our? He's the best center back i ever seen.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6330 on: February 3, 2020, 07:32:42 am »
I always thought Lawrenson was our best ever, but he doesn’t come anywhere close to VVD .... and that is a BIG statement.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6331 on: February 3, 2020, 08:07:04 am »
Is he our finest center back ever? Up there with Sami, Lawrenson and Hansen?
Since Yeats - we have been blessed with many great centre backs. Hansen and Lawrenson were great. Virgil however is a more commanding figure than both of them. He has everything that they have and more. Listen to what Roy Keane said about Virgil after the Utd game. Spot on and very hard to come from an ex Utd captain. Virgil reads the game well. He has great intelligence. Great anticipation. Great organizational skills. An outstanding vocal and ferocious leader. Great pace. Great strength. Great header of the ball. Can score goals. Great ball skills. Great touch for a big man (and small man). Fine passer of the ball with great distribution.

He is simply the greatest of them all ...

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6332 on: February 3, 2020, 08:43:23 am »
I've always had great time for Sami Hyppia. Such a commanding centre back. Probably the best we had at the club, during his time here, since Lawrenson and Hansen. Bought for £2.6m incredible business back in 2009. I appreciate everybody's replies. Yeah Virgil is immense. Funny enough I think Paul McGrath deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as VVD. He was a rolls royce. Being Irish he was a hero of mine.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6333 on: February 3, 2020, 09:13:12 am »
Our? He's the best center back i ever seen.

+1.

We've been over this before but no-one has had the range of attributes that Virg does.

He's been immense again this season. So good that we're starting to take it for granted I think. No dip from last season.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6334 on: February 3, 2020, 09:18:46 am »
Comfortably better than all three.
He's not comfortably better than Hansen or Lawrenson. They were genuinely world class players. All round he is better than all of them though. I can remember seeing Hansen being occasionally bullied by big physical yard dog centre forwards. No one bullies big Virg though. Having him, Gomez and Becker in the same team is like cheating.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6335 on: February 3, 2020, 09:19:13 am »
If only that back heel went in ;D
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6336 on: February 3, 2020, 09:53:42 am »
Best Cb in my life time and that extends back to the 70's. Never seen anyone dominate the box as much as he does. Biggest attribute is his ability to bring a sense of calm and the best out of the players around him. Just on a different level.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6337 on: February 3, 2020, 11:49:09 am »
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6338 on: February 3, 2020, 12:26:02 pm »
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6339 on: February 4, 2020, 03:24:39 pm »
Anyone able to post the full article from Joyce in today’s Times please?

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6340 on: February 5, 2020, 04:09:31 pm »
Anyone able to post the full article from Joyce in today’s Times please?

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1224670476754194433?s=21

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« Reply #6341 on: February 5, 2020, 04:11:46 pm »
Or you can go in and get a free article or (you know), pay for a subscription.


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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6342 on: February 6, 2020, 03:20:34 pm »
He was superb against Southampton.

If the Netherlands go far in the Euros he will hopefully win the next Ballon d'Or  :)

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6343 on: February 9, 2020, 02:20:38 pm »
Feels like we're taking him for granted not even considering him for the PFA PotY. We are just not the same without Virgil.  But the other thing is how reliable he is, almost never injured. Hendo has had a fantastic year but for me Virgil is still head and shoulders above anyone else in this league. He is not just the best defender but also the best player.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6344 on: February 9, 2020, 02:54:53 pm »
Since Yeats - we have been blessed with many great centre backs. Hansen and Lawrenson were great. Virgil however is a more commanding figure than both of them. He has everything that they have and more. Listen to what Roy Keane said about Virgil after the Utd game. Spot on and very hard to come from an ex Utd captain. Virgil reads the game well. He has great intelligence. Great anticipation. Great organizational skills. An outstanding vocal and ferocious leader. Great pace. Great strength. Great header of the ball. Can score goals. Great ball skills. Great touch for a big man (and small man). Fine passer of the ball with great distribution.

He is simply the greatest of them all ...

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He's a complete centre back, but he's not as good as Hansen when it comes to moving with the ball at his feet. In fact Gomez is closer.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6345 on: February 9, 2020, 06:23:53 pm »
Matip is very good at that too.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6346 on: February 9, 2020, 06:28:07 pm »
Wonder if he'll ever strike a 30 yarder aka Agger style
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6347 on: February 9, 2020, 06:33:54 pm »
He's a complete centre back, but he's not as good as Hansen when it comes to moving with the ball at his feet. In fact Gomez is closer.

Who was smoother on the ball, Hansen or Agger? Or any other Liverpool CB for that matter?
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6348 on: February 9, 2020, 08:22:55 pm »
Feels like we're taking him for granted not even considering him for the PFA PotY. We are just not the same without Virgil.  But the other thing is how reliable he is, almost never injured. Hendo has had a fantastic year but for me Virgil is still head and shoulders above anyone else in this league. He is not just the best defender but also the best player.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6349 on: February 9, 2020, 08:36:08 pm »
We just not the same without Virgil.... Saw some footage today just on the off chance of Martial scoring that goal in 2015... The players involved were Skrtel Clyne,Loveren,Lucas and Mignolet in goal...just think about that for a moment folks....

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6350 on: February 9, 2020, 11:07:34 pm »
Feels like we're taking him for granted not even considering him for the PFA PotY. We are just not the same without Virgil.  But the other thing is how reliable he is, almost never injured. Hendo has had a fantastic year but for me Virgil is still head and shoulders above anyone else in this league. He is not just the best defender but also the best player.

hmm i dont know about that, but as far as VVD and the poty is concerned, i do find it surprising (at the least) that his name isn't coming up in poty discussions when i've come across them thru various media - if i was asked to name a player who is head and shoulders above those in his postiion, first name that leaps out is VVD, no one i've seen in world football is even close to him, not remotely and you couple that with the high level of play he consistently turns in every week, dude is a force of nature

that said, a number of players have had a great year individually, and in the end with most seasons there are a few standout players and it's a coin toss of who gets it as it's a subject choice

if vvd wasn't in the running come the poty top (cant recall exactly how they do it...) but let's say top 5, yeah, to me i'd beg to differ on that
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6351 on: February 10, 2020, 01:16:02 am »
Outstanding again. Loved his run in on goal - that would have been something else.

I reckon he's good enough to play for us as a CF target man if needed!! He'd have great touch and classy layoffs.   Graceful, classy, exquisite, Rolls Royce.  All words that describe our Virg.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6352 on: February 10, 2020, 08:46:28 pm »
I thought Maldini was the best in the world by a long shot and for a very long time.

VVD, to me, has surpassed him.

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« Reply #6353 on: February 10, 2020, 09:05:05 pm »
I thought Maldini was the best in the world by a long shot and for a very long time.

VVD, to me, has surpassed him.

He won’t surpass him on legacy, but ability wise he is the best I’ve ever seen, be it I’m fairly young.

Would have liked to see the likes of Paul Mcgrath in his prime though, talent wise from those I’ve seen Ledley King Thiago Silva and Ferdinand top the pile, but VVD is better.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6354 on: February 10, 2020, 09:09:45 pm »
I thought Maldini was the best in the world by a long shot and for a very long time.

VVD, to me, has surpassed him.

Different players with very similar mentality. But Maldini did it for two decades. Virgil is more gifted physically and I love him to bits, but saying he's surpassed Maldini is peak recency bias. Maldini did what Virgil does now for 20 years and at a similar, if not higher level. Virgil will need another decade to surpass Maldini, he was that good. He's probably had the best 2 or 3 seasons a centre half has had in my years of watching football, but he has some ways to go before we start comparing him to the Maldinis and the Baresis.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6355 on: February 10, 2020, 09:11:18 pm »
He won’t surpass him on legacy, but ability wise he is the best I’ve ever seen, be it I’m fairly young.

Would have liked to see the likes of Paul Mcgrath in his prime though, talent wise from those I’ve seen Ledley King Thiago Silva and Ferdinand top the pile, but VVD is better.

It will be impossible for him to surpass his legacy. Pure ability, Van Dijk is better. But Maldini had 20 plus years of longevity, and I'd probably say he's a better LB than van Dijk would be, but in terms of playing as a CB, Van Dijk is better. Aside from that, Maldini's success in Europe will imo impossible to outdo.


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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6356 on: February 10, 2020, 09:12:07 pm »
Different players with very similar mentality. But Maldini did it for two decades. Virgil is more gifted physically and I love him to bits, but saying he's surpassed Maldini is peak recency bias. Maldini did what Virgil does now for 20 years and at a similar, if not higher level. Virgil will need another decade to surpass Maldini, he was that good. He's probably had the best 2 or 3 seasons a centre half has had in my years of watching football, but he has some ways to go before we start comparing him to the Maldinis and the Baresis.
Van Dijk without a doubt is a better centerhalf than Maldini was. But Maldini played at a top level, in two different positions.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6357 on: February 10, 2020, 09:16:20 pm »
It will be impossible for him to surpass his legacy. Pure ability, Van Dijk is better. But Maldini had 20 plus years of longevity, and I'd probably say he's a better LB than van Dijk would be, but in terms of playing as a CB, Van Dijk is better. Aside from that, Maldini's success in Europe will imo impossible to outdo.

Both have/had similar mentality though. Always tried to stay on their feet and read the game like they could see the future. But as I said, Maldini palyed at that level for 20 years and that is the highest level you can play at. Virgil is playing at that same level, but he's had 3 seasons there. I fully believe he'll have several more and if he manages to keep that level, then he'll be in the same category in terms of legacy, but that is the level where talk of surpassing becomes moot. Its like comparing Pele to Messi, there can never be unanimous consensus.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6358 on: February 10, 2020, 10:09:51 pm »
He won’t surpass him on legacy, but ability wise he is the best I’ve ever seen, be it I’m fairly young.

Would have liked to see the likes of Paul Mcgrath in his prime though, talent wise from those I’ve seen Ledley King Thiago Silva and Ferdinand top the pile, but VVD is better.

Good shout on McGrath, I think he was supremely talented from what I seen of him toward the end of his career. On the English lads, personally I always thought Woodgate was the most talented of his generation but had shocking injuries. VVD is head and shoulders above all of them though.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk PFA Player of the Year, UEFA Player of the Year
« Reply #6359 on: February 11, 2020, 04:37:25 am »
I am at fault too but I do think there is no need to compare players from different era/period. It’s not comparing apples to apples. I’ve watched football keenly for the past 45 years more or less. Virgil is one of the best centre backs ever and he is still getting better. He is without a doubt, the best centre back in the world today

On a side note ... Maldini was a left back. One of the best ever. He was a good centre back in the twilight of his career
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