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shelovesyou · « **Reply #960 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:39:23 pm »

Quote from: SwedenRed on January 9, 2011, 05:37:55 pm

Give what a rest?! I am saying we were the same today as we have been all Season... You think we suddenly played well today?! The whole game was quite poor. The Mancs play was bad and so was ours... It was a poor game.

Harsh that mate, the pen was never a pen, we know that but to keep them at bay like we did for as long as we did is a vast improvement on what we have been witness too so far.
It'll do us the world of good.

alvaro · « **Reply #961 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:39:24 pm »

If our defenders were worried about avoiding minimal contact against the opposition strikers then we would let in much more goals than the ones we let because of an ocasional wrong ref desition.
Btw on our last 3 trips to the toilet the ref has given the mancs a penalty.

J-Mc- · « **Reply #962 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:40:07 pm »

Quote from: jeffiner1892 on January 9, 2011, 05:39:09 pm

I forgot to mention Aurelio's great chance, was shades of his 2009 free there.

He slipped aswell didn't he?

Was a great effort that and was unlucky not to fly in.

Think the fact he slipped meant to didn't get as much power as he wanted behind it.

vivabobbygraham · « **Reply #963 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:40:12 pm »

Quote from: CornerFlag on January 9, 2011, 05:19:55 pm

Two of them there, guy in the grey hoodie too.

Before we start another witch hunt, let's talk to the fans that were actually there and find out if there was any provocation before we hang draw and quarter the lad. Not nice we know but fuck sake has not anybody on here acted impulsively when provoked? I've been to Old Trafford many times and some of the vitriol aimed at scousers has been hard to take on the cheek let alone turn the other one.

SwedenRed · « **Reply #964 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:40:17 pm »

Quote from: Chakan on January 9, 2011, 05:38:44 pm

Frankly mate I can't be bothered, if I have to tell you why it wasn't a poor performance, then seriously you need your head checked.
But then again I forgot I am talking to the person who think england can do no wrong and spain and the most boring team to ever play football.

OK whatever Mr SuperFan.

Wot_Shanks_would_Say · « **Reply #965 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:40:20 pm »

Quote from: koppper on January 9, 2011, 03:44:34 pm

Dissapointed by the result but probably the best we have played this season, and thats all I was looking for.

Looks like they're doing great business on rose-tinted-specs.com. This performances was at best on a par with the first game of the season vs arsenal. We have been much better e.g vs chelsea and spurs. Come on, kenny or no kenny we were still crap today. Still creating virtually nothing. It goes without saying that webb cost us and gerrard was a silly sausage but we were still crap.

Scousebeef · « **Reply #966 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:40:43 pm »

Quote from: Carra23 on January 9, 2011, 05:33:50 pm

Kenny's United press conference:

Kenny Dalglish spoke of his desire to 'bring back the happy memories' for the Liverpool fans who today welcomed his return with rapture.

Chants of 'Dalglish' could be heard throughout our 1-0 FA Cup third round defeat to Manchester United - and the man himself admitted he was overcome with emotion to be back after 20 years away from the Liverpool dugout.

"The reception of the fans was unbelievable," said Dalglish. "It crossed my mind to do a Mourinho or a Gary Neville and run down the line to their corner but I never made it!

"But the fans have always held a special place for me and my family and thankfully they've got a long memory of those happy times. I hope we can bring them back. Their support for me today was superb.

"I cannot see into the future. All I can do is promise the same as when I signed in 1977 - 100 per cent commitment from Kenny Dalglish.

"The next six months will be fantastic for me. If we put as much effort and commitment to the cause as we have today then we should be alright.

"It's my responsibility to encourage the players and improve them, and hopefully we'll get better."

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/kenny-s-united-press-conference

Kenny certainly knows how to talk to the press! unlike Hodgson Kenny oozes class!!

VamosLiverpool · « **Reply #967 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:40:58 pm »

Quote from: SwedenRed on January 9, 2011, 05:37:55 pm

Give what a rest?! I am saying we were the same today as we have been all Season... You think we suddenly played well today?! The whole game was quite poor. The Mancs play was bad and so was ours... It was a poor game.

I'm not sure which games you watch. You said recently our first half against Bolton was really good. I think everyone agreed otherwise. Today was a vast improvement. 12 v 10.

Dr Manhattan · « **Reply #968 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:40:58 pm »

Hilarious to see someone using the "super fan" card who was, just a week ago, telling people to stop moaning, get behind the team and manager, and generally repeating that ad nauseam over and over again.

I say hilarious, but obviously I mean twattish.

BigSpruceyGob · « **Reply #969 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:41:03 pm »

Quote from: BigBruceyGrob on January 9, 2011, 05:37:14 pm

A few points:

1) It was a soft penalty but there was contact and Agger had no need to touch Berbatov.It was a stupid decision from him.

2) Gerrards tackle was crazy.It was two-footed and he was off the floor, right in front of the ref.It was a red, lets be fair.You have to expect more from your captain.

3) Some really big positives today - Kelly was superb and Reina really kept us in it.With a bit of luck, and maybe a bit more effort from Nando, we might've pinched a draw.We'll do Everton next week - the perfect response.

4) This conspiracy shite is really embarrassing.We've had more penalties at Old Trafford against United in the past few years than they have had against us.And as the Manc twat I work with said to me before, when was the last time they got a penalty at Anfield?

5) Meireiles was dreadful and I'm losing patience with him very quickly.

oh and

6) The dick giving it 'Munich!' really needs a fucking good slap.I reported that twat on Talksport for his nonce comment last night, this was on a par.Gives us all a bad name.

NineTails20 · « **Reply #970 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:41:22 pm »

Again from Paul Dalglish:

"Howard Webb MBE. Manc of the Busby Empire! I am not normally bitter as you know but it's is different rules against them!"

stevied · « **Reply #971 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:42:10 pm »

Quote from: Phil M on January 9, 2011, 05:38:27 pm

What fantastic words from the King. We can't ask for anymore than this.

Kenny owes us nothing. He's brought us all together again, that in itself says enough about the man.

Just watched him on Sky, how much more confidence do you get from Kenny speaking he even makes a shite free kick from Jonjo seem positive

Alonso · « **Reply #972 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:42:36 pm »

Quote from: SwedenRed on January 9, 2011, 05:37:55 pm

Give what a rest?! I am saying we were the same today as we have been all Season... You think we suddenly played well today?! The whole game was quite poor. The Mancs play was bad and so was ours... It was a poor game.

Considering we played most of the game with 10 men, and still came out of the match looking the stronger side, I'd say yes. We did play well today. Even more so when you consider the scum have lost just one game this season.

Certainly a lot better than the long ball tactics we've been watching all season.

Give it a rest.

RigBon1892 · « **Reply #973 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:42:47 pm »

People saying we created nothing, what the hell did they create?

JohnHobbes · « **Reply #974 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:43:09 pm »

Quote from: jaffod on January 9, 2011, 05:38:40 pm

Their players had acres of space to play in right up to the halfway line. If that's pressing high up the pitch then fair enough.

They had too much freedom on their left/our right but I think Kuyt was trying to play more aggressively. However, overall we pressed much further up the pitch than under Roy which is a huge improvement.

JK-3 · « **Reply #975 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:43:26 pm »

Quote from: NineTails20 on January 9, 2011, 05:41:22 pm

Again from Paul Dalglish:

"Howard Webb MBE. Manc of the Busby Empire! I am not normally bitter as you know but it's is different rules against them!"

The amount of tweets about Howard Webb says it all really.

Torpedo Tommy · « **Reply #976 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:43:31 pm »

Quote from: Gareth on January 9, 2011, 04:52:38 pm

Not a bad result given it was 12 v 10 for long periods.

WTF was going through Gerrards head with that tackle?

Stupid from someone so experienced in the game and with the antics of Webb.

But if the letter of the law is applied fairly then the game should have stopped to deal with Rafael's challenge. Whether it's a booking, sending off or just a free kick the game stops and Gerrard doesn't tackle Carrick.

JohnHobbes · « **Reply #977 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:43:38 pm »

Quote from: jeffiner1892 on January 9, 2011, 05:42:47 pm

People saying we created nothing, what the hell did they create?

Opportunities for Howard Webb to give penalties/send our players off?

RedRabbit · « **Reply #978 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:44:16 pm »

Quote from: shelovesyou on January 9, 2011, 05:38:18 pm

I think it is true mate, Barret was on Radio earlier. Didnt hear him myself but very much alluded to it, apparently.

Fucking sweet. This weekend is getting better and better. He's a great coach.

alvaro · « **Reply #979 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:44:25 pm »

For those intrested here is a good site that analyses the game. http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/01/09/manchester-united-1-0-liverpool-dalglish-tactics/

There is an explanation on the difference between this and the previous Liverpool games.

montysmum · « **Reply #980 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:44:44 pm »

Quote from: jaffod on January 9, 2011, 05:28:13 pm

All this hand-wringing over the Munich shouter. Are you all as fucking outraged about the shit they sing about us EVERY FUCKING GAME THEY PLAY?

If not, shut up.

Yes, I am actually. Songs about disasters are out of order.

The good thing for us is that it was just one or two of our supporters who were crass enough to do it. Unfortunately the same can't be said of the numbers of Man U supporters and the songs they sing.

JohnHobbes · « **Reply #981 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:44:47 pm »

Quote from: jkliverpool on January 9, 2011, 05:43:26 pm

The amount of tweets about Howard Webb says it all really.

Depressing for the game that the referee is not anonymous

kvarmeismydad · « **Reply #982 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:44:57 pm »

In that 4231 formation the positions Maxi and Dirk play in need new players. We miss Yossi as a direct dribbler who can thread a pass. Two quick attacking players on either side so we can break more effectively.

AriGold · « **Reply #983 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:45:12 pm »

Quote from: SwedenRed on January 9, 2011, 05:40:17 pm

OK whatever Mr SuperFan.

Superfan? You're chatting shite. You honestly couldn't see the difference in how better we were today compared to the last 2 months?

jaffod · « **Reply #984 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:45:20 pm »

Quote from: jkliverpool on January 9, 2011, 05:43:26 pm

The amount of tweets about Howard Webb says it all really.

I'd prefer it if somebody from the club said it openly in the media, but I wont hold my breath.

BigSpruceyGob · « **Reply #985 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:45:53 pm »

Quote from: montysmum on January 9, 2011, 05:44:44 pm

Yes, I am actually. Songs about disasters are out of order.

The good thing for us is that it was just one or two of our supporters who were crass enough to do it. Unfortunately the same can't be said of the numbers of Man U supporters and the songs they sing.

Totally agree.

It's already on YouTube.

Sevo · « **Reply #986 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:46:21 pm »

Quote from: SwedenRed on January 9, 2011, 05:37:55 pm

Give what a rest?! I am saying we were the same today as we have been all Season... You think we suddenly played well today?! The whole game was quite poor. The Mancs play was bad and so was ours... It was a poor game.

Yeh you're right. I mean it was an identical performance as those against Wigan, Wolves, Blackpool, Northampton, Stoke etc... Apart from the commitment, tactical organisation and managerial skill.

SwedenRed · « **Reply #987 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:46:22 pm »

Quote from: shelovesyou on January 9, 2011, 05:39:23 pm

Harsh that mate, the pen was never a pen, we know that but to keep them at bay like we did for as long as we did is a vast improvement on what we have been witness too so far.
It'll do us the world of good.

I agree it was never a pen... And I question the sending off. The second half, we HAD to go forward, and some of the players did, but the quality how they did it was poor. The effort was there I think, which is the 'Kenny' effect. We had a couple of chances, but the Mancs had many more.
Yes I suppose it was a small improvement, especially on the effort, but I just dont think the quality was there. Harsh as it sounds, I do not think our best 11 are that good. And that is my opinion. We will vastly improve whn the owners provide funds to the Manager to improve he team.

bleedsred1978 · « **Reply #988 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:46:30 pm »

Done well with 10 men. Think we might have done em with 11.

What was Stevie thinking? Defo sending off.

No penalty but silly all the same from Agger.

Good start overall for me.

JohnHobbes · « **Reply #989 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:46:34 pm »

Quote from: montysmum on January 9, 2011, 05:44:44 pm

Yes, I am actually. Songs about disasters are out of order.

The good thing for us is that it was just one or two of our supporters who were crass enough to do it. Unfortunately the same can't be said of the numbers of Man U supporters and the songs they sing.

Sadly we need to just accept that their fans will sing such awful rubbish about us. If they can't be mature then we need to be though it does hurt to be the ones to turn the other cheek

alvaro · « **Reply #990 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:48:04 pm »

Can we please stop blaming Agger?? If he never ever did minimal contact he would be the worst defender in the league.

JohnHobbes · « **Reply #991 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:48:12 pm »

Quote from: Sevo on January 9, 2011, 05:46:21 pm

Yeh you're right. I mean it was an identical performance as those against Wigan, Wolves, Blackpool, Northampton, Stoke etc... Apart from the commitment, tactical organisation and managerial skill.

Heh, those miniscule details apart it was just the same!!

sat · « **Reply #992 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:49:28 pm »

Never a pen, in hindsight SG should never have gone in like that and imo it was a sending off. Really pleased with the way the 10 lads played out, Martin Kelly was superb, Raul was a bit off his game with a number of over hit passes, e looked better at the back and there was some passion out there. All encouraging signs for the future...

RedRabbit · « **Reply #993 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:49:28 pm »

Quote from: Wot_Shanks_would_Say on January 9, 2011, 05:40:20 pm

Looks like they're doing great business on rose-tinted-specs.com. This performances was at best on a par with the first game of the season vs arsenal. We have been much better e.g vs chelsea and spurs. Come on, kenny or no kenny we were still crap today. Still creating virtually nothing. It goes without saying that webb cost us and gerrard was a silly sausage but we were still crap.

Bullshit. They didn't have a shot on goal until the last ten minutes, besides the "peno".We had far more attacking intent before SG got sent off. We're a team 4 points from relegation and clearly lacking in confidence, they're top of the table undefeated. We had 10 men for over an hour. Was a great display to restore confidence.

What exactly were you expecting? A 4-0 mauling at OT??

stevied · « **Reply #994 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:49:34 pm »

Quote from: bleedsred1978 on January 9, 2011, 05:46:30 pm

Done well with 10 men. Think we might have done em with 11.

What was Stevie thinking? Defo sending off.

No penalty but silly all the same from Agger.

Good start overall for me.

Totally agree Agger made it easy for Webb, by challenging Berbatov it gave him the opportunity to dive, i wonder if we shall see a Walcott style apology, i think not

bloodred09 · « **Reply #995 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:49:35 pm »

Quote from: tdonline on January 9, 2011, 04:13:57 pm

Agreed. Fair enough to say Torres wasn't sharp today, he wasn't. But I don't understand the "Everyone tried but Nando..." stuff. I don't want him to run around knocking himself out cold chasing shadows. That's not a good use of his time out there especially with a man down. Unfortunately his control and passing wasn't up to snuff but it's not fair to paint that as a lack of effort. Meireles was really bad but no one questions his effort.

I did, i thought he was weak today to be honest

Alan_X · « **Reply #996 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:49:40 pm »

Quote from: WelshMike on January 9, 2011, 05:01:09 pm

But he only pulled out of it to an extent (though he still played the ball) because Rafael shaped to take his legs off by jumping with two feet off the floor. So why wasn't that a red if Gerrard's was? Meireles did Rafael a favour indeed (although I think he was looking to do his own legs a favour more than anything else), but why did Webb not take action there? He bottled it, he was all over the place. Then another strong challenge goes in and suddenly it's a red, despite not even giving a free kick for Rafael's challenge, and despite not blowing straight away or not seeing it properly. I'm only surprised he didn't help them kill the game off later on when Kelly cleanly challenged Evra in the area.

There was more contact in the Kelly challenge.

JohnHobbes · « **Reply #997 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:49:43 pm »

Quote from: alvaro on January 9, 2011, 05:48:04 pm

Can we please stop blaming Agger?? If he never ever did minimal contact he would be the worst defender in the league.

Daft to put a foot in when he didn't need to, pure dive from their player but we just need to move on

Sasquatch · « **Reply #998 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:49:48 pm »

Quote from: Wot_Shanks_would_Say on January 9, 2011, 05:40:20 pm

Looks like they're doing great business on rose-tinted-specs.com. This performances was at best on a par with the first game of the season vs arsenal. We have been much better e.g vs chelsea and spurs. Come on, kenny or no kenny we were still crap today. Still creating virtually nothing. It goes without saying that webb cost us and gerrard was a silly sausage but we were still crap.

If you think we were 'crap' today then geez.

I was actually quite proud of the lads. They actually showed fight.

Notayesman · « **Reply #999 on:** January 9, 2011, 05:49:57 pm »

Quote from: BigBruceyGrob on January 9, 2011, 05:37:14 pm

A few points:

1) It was a soft penalty but there was contact and Agger had no need to touch Berbatov.It was a stupid decision from him.

2) Gerrards tackle was crazy.It was two-footed and he was off the floor, right in front of the ref.It was a red, lets be fair.You have to expect more from your captain.

3) Some really big positives today - Kelly was superb and Reina really kept us in it.With a bit of luck, and maybe a bit more effort from Nando, we might've pinched a draw.We'll do Everton next week - the perfect response.

4) This conspiracy shite is really embarrassing.We've had more penalties at Old Trafford against United in the past few years than they have had against us.And as the Manc twat I work with said to me before, when was the last time they got a penalty at Anfield?

5) Meireiles was dreadful and I'm losing patience with him very quickly.

Good post that, fair assessment of things. Stevie needs a word in his ear after that. Kenny's first game, at Old Trafford and he goes and does something as fucking stupid as that. He's the captain and should behave as such, that wasn't what he did out there today. With regards to Meireles I'd be willing to give him more time but that pulling out of tackles is not fucking on. Opposition managers will see something like that and target him, so he's gonna gave to toughen up and deal with it.