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Re: The UK have acccepted Brexit
« Reply #80 on: August 17, 2022, 10:21:00 pm »
One thing for sure, won’t be voting Labour if they stick to the status quo. My kids are all in their early 20s, too young to vote in 2016 and would all have voted remain, so lots of lost votes for Labour.
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Re: The UK have acccepted Brexit
« Reply #81 on: August 17, 2022, 10:32:43 pm »
I don't accept Brexit, but I am pragmatic. It is the reality for the foreseeable future.

Until the country endures even more pain - pain beyond that which we've already endured, and beyond what even the rancid right can convince the British people is somehow just down to the EU behaving likes dicks - then public opinion on the matter will remain one of lethargic acceptance.

If you don't want to vote Labour because they refuse to change things in the immediacy, that's fair enough. But after 12 years of Tories and what they have already managed to do, be mindful of what that will bring.

They are not "as bad as each other".
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Re: The UK have acccepted Brexit
« Reply #82 on: August 18, 2022, 09:00:20 am »
One great thing about Brexit is that racist xenophobic twats can be trolled on in social media and in real life for fun.

I've had more than one "You won, get over it" laughs against racists while on holiday :)
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Re: The UK have acccepted Brexit
« Reply #83 on: August 19, 2022, 07:44:44 am »
Massive care staff hiring from abroad.

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Re: The UK have acccepted Brexit
« Reply #84 on: August 19, 2022, 08:01:36 am »
Massive care staff hiring from abroad.

So much winning.

In my area where I live (Jersey, Channel Islands) loads of Polish and Portuguese (my own Nationality) have left the Hospitality and similar sectors and now the island is hiring from Africa and Philippines etc cause Europeans have no interest being here.


Another Brexit win of keeping things in house  :butt

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Re: The UK have acccepted Brexit
« Reply #85 on: August 19, 2022, 08:16:59 am »
One thing for sure, won’t be voting Labour if they stick to the status quo. My kids are all in their early 20s, too young to vote in 2016 and would all have voted remain, so lots of lost votes for Labour.

You'd prefer the conservatives in power rather than a labour government then just because of one particular policy issue?

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Re: The UK have acccepted Brexit
« Reply #86 on: August 19, 2022, 08:21:54 am »
One thing for sure, won’t be voting Labour if they stick to the status quo. My kids are all in their early 20s, too young to vote in 2016 and would all have voted remain, so lots of lost votes for Labour.

Its probably pertinent to  point out that Wales has a Labour government and the voting age is 16. 

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Re: The UK have acccepted Brexit
« Reply #87 on: September 5, 2022, 12:02:18 pm »
You'd prefer the conservatives in power rather than a labour government then just because of one particular policy issue?

That kind of attitude has always struck me as odd, people would rather vote for the worst case scenario or not vote if the alternative was not a perfect match for them, despite it being far closer to what they'd want.

This is something the left desperately needs to learn from the right, you don't have to hold out for perfect if you can get acceptable now, it is vastly easier to drag things from acceptable towards your ideal if you are the ones in power, as seen by the handmaid's tale playing out in the states these days.

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Re: The UK have acccepted Brexit
« Reply #88 on: September 5, 2022, 12:16:45 pm »
That kind of attitude has always struck me as odd, people would rather vote for the worst case scenario or not vote if the alternative was not a perfect match for them, despite it being far closer to what they'd want.

This is something the left desperately needs to learn from the right, you don't have to hold out for perfect if you can get acceptable now, it is vastly easier to drag things from acceptable towards your ideal if you are the ones in power, as seen by the handmaid's tale playing out in the states these days.



I'll vote for the party/candidate whose policies most reflect my opinions.

But then, I reside in a very safe Labour seat. If I lived in a maginal, there are some lections I'd hold my nose and vote Labour. Wouldn't fill me with pleasure, though, and would be very much a case of 'slightly less shite than the Tories'.

Unfortunately, though, on the majority of core policy*, Labour don't reflect my opinions. Indeed, I think they're far closer to the Tories that they are to me.


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Re: The UK have acccepted Brexit
« Reply #89 on: September 5, 2022, 12:45:04 pm »


I'll vote for the party/candidate whose policies most reflect my opinions.

But then, I reside in a very safe Labour seat. If I lived in a maginal, there are some lections I'd hold my nose and vote Labour. Wouldn't fill me with pleasure, though, and would be very much a case of 'slightly less shite than the Tories'.

Unfortunately, though, on the majority of core policy*, Labour don't reflect my opinions. Indeed, I think they're far closer to the Tories that they are to me.


* taxation, public spending, privatisation/outsourcing, workers'/union rights, tax-dodging, motorcycles

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