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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9600 on: September 9, 2022, 03:39:40 pm »
Didn’t see his name in the list, but personally think David Croft (Sky F1 race commentator) is quality.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9601 on: September 9, 2022, 05:25:07 pm »
Didn’t see his name in the list, but personally think David Croft (Sky F1 race commentator) is quality.
Despises Hamilton and thinks David “Crofty” Croft is quality.  I don’t think our views on F1 could be any more opposed  :D

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« Reply #9602 on: September 9, 2022, 05:35:39 pm »
Despises Hamilton and thinks David “Crofty” Croft is quality.  I don’t think our views on F1 could be any more opposed  :D

Haha all good that mate. If everyone likes the same the world would be a boring place. 😀

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9603 on: September 9, 2022, 11:29:37 pm »
Just read about that. Abu Dhabi’s talksport mouth piece is one of the most vile people in the media. Surely he will be sacked now.

He is by far and away the most annoying person on the radio, the single voice I cannot listen to 1 second of. Even if its a game, I hear him and off it goes.
TalkSport don't care who they have on and what they've done. He was calling us bin dippers not that long ago too. They might drop him for a bit but he'll be back. Just like Saunders when he was done for drink driving

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9604 on: September 9, 2022, 11:36:07 pm »
Sinclair is Danny Mills level of gobshitery. Both among the worst you can get if you ignore Richard Keys. If you include Keys then there'll never be any contest.
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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9605 on: September 14, 2022, 05:26:57 pm »
Didi Hamman eh. Always seems so down on us. He was on RTE last night saying that "fully expects Ajax to get something from the game". Sounded quite disappointed afterward too.

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« Reply #9606 on: September 14, 2022, 05:36:21 pm »
He's lost the plot

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9607 on: September 14, 2022, 05:47:06 pm »
Sinclair is Danny Mills level of gobshitery. Both among the worst you can get if you ignore Richard Keys. If you include Keys then there'll never be any contest.

Richard Keys infamous tweet never get's old, Everton have not been the same since[& the Ev were just as bad before the tweet too ;D]. :lmao
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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9608 on: September 14, 2022, 10:01:32 pm »
He's lost the plot

Gary Neville@GNev2
I keep saying it but the quicker we get the Regulator in the better. US investment into English football is a clear and present danger to the pyramid and fabric of the game. They just don’t get it and think differently. They also don’t stop till they get what they want!


He pretends he's some kind of saviour of football whereas in reality he's just a mercenary. Get rid of US investments, but bring in investments from human rights abusing sports washers, but only to Man Utd. That's what he wants
I suppose thats in relation to what the Chelsea fella said. If they want a real football man's take on it, read Klopp's comments

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9609 on: September 14, 2022, 10:07:22 pm »
He's lost the plot

Gary Neville@GNev2
I keep saying it but the quicker we get the Regulator in the better. US investment into English football is a clear and present danger to the pyramid and fabric of the game. They just don’t get it and think differently. They also don’t stop till they get what they want!
Yeah Garry the problem with the English game is U.S. money/owners and not the fact people like Abu Dhabi and Saudi are just able to waltz in.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9610 on: September 15, 2022, 09:53:51 am »
Kloppo's pal Agbonglahor this morning, he was asked about Jack Grealish and his nothing contribution and his response was pathetic. He loves Grealish, he's said he can be as good as Iniesta, Englands best player bla bla. He doesn't look at the stats he looks at his performances with his own eyes, which is probably worse. But, it's hard for Jack at City, because last Dortmund played "with 10 buses behind the ball". Team sit back.  Sorry but, isn't that precisely the reason City paid 100 million quid for him ? For that exact reason. Klopp was right, what a tube

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« Reply #9611 on: September 15, 2022, 04:33:08 pm »
Im starting to think that rat boy is being paid by the sportwashers.   

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« Reply #9612 on: September 15, 2022, 05:56:36 pm »
Kloppo's pal Agbonglahor this morning, he was asked about Jack Grealish and his nothing contribution and his response was pathetic. He loves Grealish, he's said he can be as good as Iniesta, Englands best player bla bla. He doesn't look at the stats he looks at his performances with his own eyes, which is probably worse. But, it's hard for Jack at City, because last Dortmund played "with 10 buses behind the ball". Team sit back.  Sorry but, isn't that precisely the reason City paid 100 million quid for him ? For that exact reason. Klopp was right, what a tube

He’s unreal. Was laying into graham potter yesterday and trying to give him tactical advice

- just play 4/3/3, keep it ‘simple’

- logical for having to play koulibaly and forfana, as you’ve ‘paid a lot of money for them’

Football punditry nowadays is absolutely dreadful. Im not saying you have to be the best of the best to have an opinion but fuck me.

 Hasselbaink was struggling to manage a side but still appearing on tv each week trying to pretend he knows what he’s talking about. Imagine how infuriating that was for burton fans
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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9613 on: September 18, 2022, 08:25:12 am »
So according to Micah Richards, the solution to Wolves’ problems is to get Costa back ASAP. You know, the same Costa that’s not yet played a second for them.
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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9615 on: September 20, 2022, 08:57:38 pm »
Heard Danny Mills talking about the England goalkeeper spot. He says Pickford is unquestionably number one, with one of the reasons being that he is "streets ahead of the rest of them with his ability with ball at his feet"
I guess Pope and Ramsdale aren't capable of whacking the ball as hard as they can anytime it comes near them, because that's all I've ever seen Pickford do.

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« Reply #9616 on: September 20, 2022, 10:05:20 pm »
What happened to Gordon Strachan. He was everywhere for abit then disappeared and seems to be back with BT for Scottish sides in Europe.

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« Reply #9617 on: September 20, 2022, 10:18:42 pm »
What happened to Gordon Strachan. He was everywhere for abit then disappeared and seems to be back with BT for Scottish sides in Europe.
Fighting lengthy lawsuits against all those manufacturers who used his likeness when making troll dolls?
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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9618 on: September 25, 2022, 01:42:04 pm »
If anyone is going to put a few fingers deep into my arse it's going to be me.

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« Reply #9619 on: September 25, 2022, 01:48:23 pm »
Saw someone on Twitter describe him as "commentating on every game as if he was watching Schindler's List."
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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9620 on: September 25, 2022, 07:24:33 pm »
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mark-lawrenson-bbc-axed-me-because-im-a-65-year-old-white-male-b6xxvrzqm

https://archive.ph/WADQG

Lawro claiming he was "sacked" by the BBC as he was 65 and a white male!

Pundits are actually kept on far too long as it is. Lawrenson stopped playing in the 80s and was a failed manager in the late 80s/early 90s. He has no relevance to the modern game.

If he was still a good pundit then fair enough but he was always terrible anyway.

Is he supposed to stay on until death?
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« Reply #9621 on: September 25, 2022, 08:59:41 pm »
He’s unreal. Was laying into graham potter yesterday and trying to give him tactical advice

- just play 4/3/3, keep it ‘simple’

- logical for having to play koulibaly and forfana, as you’ve ‘paid a lot of money for them’

Football punditry nowadays is absolutely dreadful. Im not saying you have to be the best of the best to have an opinion but fuck me.

 Hasselbaink was struggling to manage a side but still appearing on tv each week trying to pretend he knows what he’s talking about. Imagine how infuriating that was for burton fans
Why is it a prerequisite that you have to have played football in England to be a pundit?, there's lads down the pub that could dissect a game and give you a point by point tactical analysis, instead of trotting out the same clichés and bullshit, then having a giggle about it like fucking Shearer and Lineker, most football fans I know want proper analysis of the game, the teams and players, stats prior to and after the game, the likes of Tifo Football on YouTube make an absolute mockery of the "banter" punditry of Carragher, Ratboy et al, it's in need of a big shakeup, and I'm all in favour of diversity, but I honestly don't think introducing women as commentators has helped much either.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9622 on: September 25, 2022, 09:12:40 pm »
Why is it a prerequisite that you have to have played football in England to be a pundit?, there's lads down the pub that could dissect a game and give you a point by point tactical analysis, instead of trotting out the same clichés and bullshit, then having a giggle about it like fucking Shearer and Lineker, most football fans I know want proper analysis of the game, the teams and players, stats prior to and after the game, the likes of Tifo Football on YouTube make an absolute mockery of the "banter" punditry of Carragher, Ratboy et al, it's in need of a big shakeup, and I'm all in favour of diversity, but I honestly don't think introducing women as commentators has helped much either.

Totally agree with all of that on BT early European stages has likes of Laurens Horncastle and its a really good listen then later on you get the planks bought in.

I dont listen to much now as I cant stand em my wife used to say dont let them bother you ! My response was they arent bothering me as such but they are terrible at their job and paid lots for it.

On this site some lads/gals bring facts/stats to the table ol not everyone likes stats etc but its interesting food for thought.

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« Reply #9623 on: September 25, 2022, 11:19:12 pm »
Why is it a prerequisite that you have to have played football in England to be a pundit?, there's lads down the pub that could dissect a game and give you a point by point tactical analysis, instead of trotting out the same clichés and bullshit, then having a giggle about it like fucking Shearer and Lineker, most football fans I know want proper analysis of the game, the teams and players, stats prior to and after the game, the likes of Tifo Football on YouTube make an absolute mockery of the "banter" punditry of Carragher, Ratboy et al, it's in need of a big shakeup, and I'm all in favour of diversity, but I honestly don't think introducing women as commentators has helped much either.
Probably because that's the way its always been in the U.K. so its just how it is I suppose. Sadly the likes of Sky, BT and the BBC know that the audience wants the shite banter ladden punditry and also they want that stuff to garner clicks/views online so its the road they have gone down.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9624 on: Yesterday at 01:20:52 am »
Pundits are actually kept on far too long as it is. Lawrenson stopped playing in the 80s and was a failed manager in the late 80s/early 90s. He has no relevance to the modern game.

If he was still a good pundit then fair enough but he was always terrible anyway.

Is he supposed to stay on until death?

He was dreadful. He dialled it in every week, was ill-informed, didn't understand anything about modern football, conveyed absolutely no passion for the game, and wasn't funny. Apart from that, yeah, it was because he was a 65 year old white male.

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« Reply #9625 on: Yesterday at 08:44:14 am »
He dialled it in every week, was ill-informed, didn't understand anything about modern football, conveyed absolutely no passion for the game, and wasn't funny.

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« Reply #9626 on: Yesterday at 08:59:20 am »
He was dreadful. He dialled it in every week, was ill-informed, didn't understand anything about modern football, conveyed absolutely no passion for the game, and wasn't funny. Apart from that, yeah, it was because he was a 65 year old white male.

And yet when he did games on 5 Live he sounded like he was enjoying himself, and stopped trying to do the dad jokes. Quite weird.

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« Reply #9627 on: Yesterday at 09:03:53 am »
Why is it a prerequisite that you have to have played football in England to be a pundit?, there's lads down the pub that could dissect a game and give you a point by point tactical analysis, instead of trotting out the same clichés and bullshit, then having a giggle about it like fucking Shearer and Lineker, most football fans I know want proper analysis of the game, the teams and players, stats prior to and after the game, the likes of Tifo Football on YouTube make an absolute mockery of the "banter" punditry of Carragher, Ratboy et al, it's in need of a big shakeup, and I'm all in favour of diversity, but I honestly don't think introducing women as commentators has helped much either.

I think podcasts have shown pundits up for the phone it in clowns they are in general. The better ones, including some fan channels, give far better analysis than some ex player who'd rather be on the golf course. Either a failed manager (I.e. Lawrenson or Neville) or someone who couldn't be arsed to have a go (Carragher)..

It's why Neville got a big rep initially as he actually put some detail and effort in. Of course he's terrible now. Same with Andy Gray back in the day.
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« Reply #9628 on: Yesterday at 03:50:16 pm »
I think podcasts have shown pundits up for the phone it in clowns they are in general. The better ones, including some fan channels, give far better analysis than some ex player who'd rather be on the golf course. Either a failed manager (I.e. Lawrenson or Neville) or someone who couldn't be arsed to have a go (Carragher)..

It's why Neville got a big rep initially as he actually put some detail and effort in. Of course he's terrible now. Same with Andy Gray back in the day.
I'd take Andy Gray in a heartbeat over Ratboy and Carragher

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« Reply #9629 on: Yesterday at 04:53:13 pm »
I'd take Andy Gray in a heartbeat over Ratboy and Carragher

I can't even listen to them. The same thing happened with Gray though, he got a good rep when Sky started but just turned into an arsehole, his agenda over Rafa was a disgrace, him and Keys have still gone all out out for him in his jobs since.

Neville is just a complete gobshite. He managed to reign himself in when he started but Carragher (and a successful Liverpool team) brought out the worst in him.
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« Reply #9630 on: Yesterday at 04:56:15 pm »
And yet when he did games on 5 Live he sounded like he was enjoying himself, and stopped trying to do the dad jokes. Quite weird.

He was definitely playing up to his reputation on MOTD
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