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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9720 on: May 10, 2022, 01:08:23 am »
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9721 on: May 10, 2022, 09:52:35 am »
350k a week? Wasn't it expected to be much more than that? Guess the up-front money is a lot less without Raiola too.
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9722 on: May 10, 2022, 10:04:47 am »
Nah, think that is the salary but there is a ‘consultancy’ fee which will take his contract up to mooted 500k, shady bastards.

Think De Bruyne is on something similar (wages and consultancy).

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9723 on: May 10, 2022, 10:09:33 am »
350k a week? Wasn't it expected to be much more than that? Guess the up-front money is a lot less without Raiola too.

His official wages will probably be something like that, just a bit lower than De Bruyne's official wages. The real wages will be double that amount ...

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9724 on: May 10, 2022, 10:32:48 am »
Nah, think that is the salary but there is a ‘consultancy’ fee which will take his contract up to mooted 500k, shady bastards.

Think De Bruyne is on something similar (wages and consultancy).

Mancini's consultancy wages were higher than his wages for being Man City manager.
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9725 on: May 10, 2022, 01:03:59 pm »
The bare faced gall to report he's "only" on 350k, they know they are untouchable.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9726 on: May 10, 2022, 01:12:24 pm »
The bare faced gall to report he's "only" on 350k, they know they are untouchable.

It'll propably be soon reported as £250k/w although earlier when he took the 'tour' with Raiola their wage demands were though to be somewhere between £500k-£800k/w.

£350k/week NET might be close actually.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9727 on: May 10, 2022, 03:58:11 pm »
Pep strikers have always been midgets … Villa, Etoo, Aguero. Haaland is none of that. Haaland as another expensive failure is always a possibility
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9728 on: May 10, 2022, 04:07:51 pm »
Manchester City have announced the signing of Erling Haaland from Borussia Dortmund. It is believed the 21-year-old goal sensation has been picked up for a bargain £51million, around £13m cheaper than the £64m release fee that has been widely touted.

The Blues have announced that they have come to a deal with Bundesliga side Dortmund and that Haaland will join them on July 1. And it turned out that the release fee was €60m, which works out at around £51m.

The addition of agents' fees and bonuses is thought to take the total outlay to around £86m, again much less than the £100m figure which has been discussed. Haaland is expected to join the top earners’ bracket at City, alongside Kevin De Bruyne on around £400,000-a-week.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9729 on: May 10, 2022, 05:02:38 pm »
How many games until Pep starts Haaland out wide. It'll definitely happen.
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9730 on: May 10, 2022, 05:09:07 pm »
Dortmund already confirmed Adeyemi as the replacement, €38m plus add ons which is some mad money RB Salzburg must've picked up today.

https://www.bvb.de/eng/News/Overview/Karim-Adeyemi-signs-until-2027

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9731 on: May 10, 2022, 05:10:06 pm »
Cooking the books again, I see.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9732 on: May 10, 2022, 05:10:36 pm »
Dortmund already confirmed Adeyimi as the replacement, €38m plus add ons which is some mad money RB Salzburg must've picked up today.

https://www.bvb.de/eng/News/Overview/Karim-Adeyemi-signs-until-2027

Yep, they’ve moved fast.

Rudiger to Madrid confirmed too.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9733 on: May 10, 2022, 05:38:33 pm »
It's world cup year and they want people in early.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9734 on: May 10, 2022, 06:36:53 pm »
Manchester City have announced the signing of Erling Haaland from Borussia Dortmund. It is believed the 21-year-old goal sensation has been picked up for a bargain £51million, around £13m cheaper than the £64m release fee that has been widely touted.

The Blues have announced that they have come to a deal with Bundesliga side Dortmund and that Haaland will join them on July 1. And it turned out that the release fee was €60m, which works out at around £51m.

The addition of agents' fees and bonuses is thought to take the total outlay to around £86m, again much less than the £100m figure which has been discussed. Haaland is expected to join the top earners’ bracket at City, alongside Kevin De Bruyne on around £400,000-a-week.

Nice PR exercise. In reality, this is how much it will cost:

https://www.managingmadrid.com/2022/3/17/22983805/haaland-will-cost-around-355m-in-total-report
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9735 on: May 10, 2022, 07:20:11 pm »
What's the salary Rudiger is getting at Madrid? Is that some kind of joke what Sky suggested. He's nowhere near as good as many others.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9736 on: May 11, 2022, 06:52:36 am »
What's the salary Rudiger is getting at Madrid? Is that some kind of joke what Sky suggested. He's nowhere near as good as many others.

Spain seems to be the place to go for defenders on a free. That's Alaba, Rudiger, Azpi and Christensen isn't it
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9737 on: May 11, 2022, 09:57:12 am »
I see in the rumour mill that Villa want £50m for Watkins, and West Ham are wanting him.  Looks like the crazy money is back, if he goes for that much (also makes the same figure for Haaland look even  more like a bargain). 

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9738 on: May 11, 2022, 10:06:46 am »
I see in the rumour mill that Villa want £50m for Watkins, and West Ham are wanting him.  Looks like the crazy money is back, if he goes for that much (also makes the same figure for Haaland look even  more like a bargain).

Do you not see how Haaland for £50 million is going to be infinitely more expensive than Watkins for £50 million?

I can't imagine Watkins demanding £350k a week nor can I see his dad and agent wanting to share £60 million between them.
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9739 on: May 11, 2022, 10:08:10 am »
Yeah a summer of "so and so cost this while Haaland only cost this..." is going to be really tedious.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9740 on: May 11, 2022, 10:15:36 am »
I see in the rumour mill that Villa want £50m for Watkins, and West Ham are wanting him.  Looks like the crazy money is back, if he goes for that much (also makes the same figure for Haaland look even  more like a bargain).
I like Watkins but he's far more limited than the media credit him as being.
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9741 on: May 11, 2022, 11:56:29 am »
West Ham have offered Declan Rice an 8 year contract at 200k a week :lmao

8 fucking years :lmao

I'm sure he'll be signing that :lmao

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9742 on: May 11, 2022, 12:01:22 pm »
Sure I read that Rudiger is going to be on £300k a week. They are going to be in for such a shock when they put him in a back 4.
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9743 on: May 11, 2022, 12:52:42 pm »
West Ham have offered Declan Rice an 8 year contract at 200k a week :lmao

8 fucking years :lmao

I'm sure he'll be signing that :lmao
Jesus. He only needs to cast his eyes a few miles North to see how that can wreck a career. It's not even like a Gerrard where committing your career to a club means you'll win less trophies, this would mean he'd win virtually no trophies, maybe at a push a league or FA Cup.

He'd be stupid to sign anything beyond a 2 year extension.
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9744 on: May 11, 2022, 01:38:19 pm »
Nice PR exercise. In reality, this is how much it will cost:

https://www.managingmadrid.com/2022/3/17/22983805/haaland-will-cost-around-355m-in-total-report

Can’t see them paying him £650k unless De Bryune  got a £300k pay rise

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« Reply #9745 on: May 11, 2022, 01:43:48 pm »
Can’t see them paying him £650k unless De Bryune  got a £300k pay rise

Why would De Bruyne need a pay raise? He's getting the same off the books money that Haaland will get.

City will pretend that their salaries are similar.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9746 on: May 11, 2022, 01:56:13 pm »
Why would De Bruyne need a pay raise? He's getting the same off the books money that Haaland will get.

City will pretend that their salaries are similar.

How exactly is he getting £300k of the books


I don’t believe City’s figures on Haaland but the rest of the books , I’d be interested how as it means there must be loads more players like De Bryune  get paid huge sums off the books
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9747 on: May 11, 2022, 01:59:27 pm »
How exactly is he getting £300k of the books


Are you being dense on purpose? Literally everyone knows that Man City cook the books and pay managers and players off the books via consultancies or other "titles" so they can stay "compliant" with the PL rules.

Mancini has already admitted this previously. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6366745/Man-City-secretly-paid-Roberto-Mancini-double-contracted-wage.html

If you think they stopped doing this - good for you.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9748 on: May 11, 2022, 02:00:55 pm »
Are you being dense on purpose? Literally everyone knows that Man City cook the books and pay managers and players off the books via consultancies or other "titles" so they can stay "compliant" with the PL rules.

Mancini has already admitted this previously. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6366745/Man-City-secretly-paid-Roberto-Mancini-double-contracted-wage.html

If you think they stopped doing this - good for you.

Far from dense pal

Just interested exactly how , as I’ve said I didn’t believe the Haaland figures and the figures required to pay players half of players wages of the books would be hundreds of millions .
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« Reply #9749 on: May 11, 2022, 02:01:28 pm »
Far from dense pal

Just interested exactly how

read the article. it will be some variation of that.

Here's the current investigation https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/61017887 from Der Speigel.

We all know it's happening.
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9750 on: May 11, 2022, 02:07:30 pm »
Far from dense pal

Just interested exactly how

Salaries for playing football are accounted for in FFP. They're then paid for roles that involve around 3 days work a year that's worth as much as their football salary, doing promotion work for the UAE. They're not accounted for in FFP.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9751 on: May 11, 2022, 02:09:18 pm »
Far from dense pal

Just interested exactly how
Essentially Mancini was employed as Man City manager by them as a company and receiving a wage. He was also employed as a Sporting Consultant by the Government of Abu Dhabi, for which he received a separate wage, totally unrelated to his City contract apparently.
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9752 on: May 11, 2022, 02:09:25 pm »
@newterp interesting  articles

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9753 on: May 11, 2022, 02:10:32 pm »
Essentially Mancini was employed as Man City manager by them as a company and receiving a wage. He was also employed as a Sporting Consultant by the Government of Abu Dhabi, for which he received a separate wage, totally unrelated to his City contract apparently.

Just read the article

Interesting  stuff  , still seems a lot to pay half their wages of the books which would be hundreds of millions if all players getting the same deal and wouldn’t they have to to keep them all happy.
And most of all get away with , especially when they know they’re under investigation and have been .
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9754 on: May 11, 2022, 02:12:57 pm »
The weird thing is Mancini wasn't even worth all that. I mean I doubt they needed to fight off suitors and desperately overpay just to keep him.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9755 on: May 11, 2022, 02:37:39 pm »
I see in the rumour mill that Villa want £50m for Watkins, and West Ham are wanting him.  Looks like the crazy money is back, if he goes for that much (also makes the same figure for Haaland look even  more like a bargain). 

The entire package (transfer fee, agent fee, signing-on fee, wages) will cost Man City a bit over £300 million over 5 years. They can afford it, but it doesn't means it is good business ...

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9756 on: May 11, 2022, 05:11:34 pm »
Sporting CP sign Jeremiah St. Juste from Mainz, fee of around 10M euros.

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« Reply #9757 on: May 11, 2022, 05:13:07 pm »
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9758 on: May 11, 2022, 05:21:29 pm »
The entire package (transfer fee, agent fee, signing-on fee, wages) will cost Man City a bit over £300 million over 5 years. They can afford it, but it doesn't means it is good business ...
Well, if you put half of that through off-shores, it doesn't count, does it?

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #9759 on: May 11, 2022, 05:22:21 pm »
Hannover 96 have signed Fabian Kunze from Arminia Bielefeld, and their introduction video on Twitter is basically him committing a plethora of aggressive fouls.

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