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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14040 on: July 2, 2022, 01:23:26 pm »
crawley; more brains in a pork pie etc.

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14041 on: July 2, 2022, 01:39:11 pm »
Canít keep picking Crawley. Heís got problems at this level. Making same mistake over and again.
Youíve got to be fair to other batsmen in form in the country.

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14042 on: July 2, 2022, 03:49:43 pm »
Pope will be cross with that. Just as he's looking to resurrect his 'career'.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14043 on: July 2, 2022, 05:14:10 pm »
It first aired during the last NZ Test but 5 Live currently airing a cracking chat on spin with Vic Marks, Tuffers, Moeen Ali and Alex Hartley. Really interesting.

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14044 on: July 2, 2022, 06:02:05 pm »
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14045 on: July 2, 2022, 06:36:54 pm »
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14046 on: July 2, 2022, 06:38:27 pm »
Hate sessions like this. Very little to gain for the batsmen. But this is maybe a wake up call/reminder that NZ arenít really the best in the world.

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14047 on: July 2, 2022, 06:57:43 pm »
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14048 on: July 2, 2022, 10:30:20 pm »
Hilarious how the test record books will now say a number 10 who averaged 6 went on to score the most in an over.

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14049 on: July 2, 2022, 10:51:27 pm »
Hilarious how the test record books will now say a number 10 who averaged 6 went on to score the most in an over.
And that it was against a very arrogant Broad.

Cricket has gone a bit crazy but it seems unlikely that the record set today will ever be beaten as 36 runs in an over has only happened in internationals twice and both times against non-Test playing nations.

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14050 on: July 3, 2022, 07:45:13 am »
And that it was against a very arrogant Broad.

Cricket has gone a bit crazy but it seems unlikely that the record set today will ever be beaten as 36 runs in an over has only happened in internationals twice and both times against non-Test playing nations.

Yuvraj Singh took Broad for 36 before in at T20I. Which makes this one even funnier.

Pant against some really shit spinner is probably most likely to break it - itís a shame he was injured vs NZ and their shit spin options.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14051 on: July 3, 2022, 07:58:44 am »
Hilarious how the test record books will now say a number 10 who averaged 6 went on to score the most in an over.

IIRC Peter Such scored the first 8 in county cricket (a 6 off a no ball, just after the rule change of 2 runs for a no ball).
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14052 on: July 3, 2022, 07:59:27 am »
Yuvraj Singh took Broad for 36 before in at T20I. Which makes this one even funnier.

Pant against some really shit spinner is probably most likely to break it - itís a shame he was injured vs NZ and their shit spin options.

Broady is proud of his many entries in the record books.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14053 on: July 3, 2022, 10:06:17 am »
This "new" England got off to a flier to be fair but I have to say the whole thing just feels destined to fail. Barely been able to put 200 on the board for the last few years because our batsman have the attention span of a bunch of toddlers. It's like we've gone for a shortcut and said fuck it just go all out attack instead of learning how to bat properly. Don't see how it's sustainable certainly when we're playing outside of England. Feels a bit arrogant this crusade to save test cricket with attacking batting as if it's that easy.

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14054 on: July 3, 2022, 10:45:39 am »
This "new" England got off to a flier to be fair but I have to say the whole thing just feels destined to fail. Barely been able to put 200 on the board for the last few years because our batsman have the attention span of a bunch of toddlers. It's like we've gone for a shortcut and said fuck it just go all out attack instead of learning how to bat properly. Don't see how it's sustainable certainly when we're playing outside of England. Feels a bit arrogant this crusade to save test cricket with attacking batting as if it's that easy.

There feels to be some truth in this. It will be interesting to see what happens this morning, but it shouldn't be forgotten that Jonny Bairstow was playing orthodox Test cricket yesterday. A patient strike rate of 22 wouldn't have dishonoured Boycott.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14055 on: July 3, 2022, 10:52:25 am »
Canít see Englandís batters surviving too long with these 2 making the ball talk - the track, the ball itself and the skill involved make it almost impossible to survive. Then youíve got the extra needle that was missing against the Kiwis.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14056 on: July 3, 2022, 11:04:51 am »
Canít see Englandís batters surviving too long with these 2 making the ball talk - the track, the ball itself and the skill involved make it almost impossible to survive. Then youíve got the extra needle that was missing against the Kiwis.

Is the ball going to continue to talk though?
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14057 on: July 3, 2022, 11:08:14 am »
Is the ball going to continue to talk though?

Well on current form, when it stops swinging and seaming theyíll get it changed☺️
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14058 on: July 3, 2022, 11:27:45 am »
Bairstow has played this very sensibly.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14059 on: July 3, 2022, 11:29:18 am »
Stokes has been giving India catching practice this morning and finally they got one to stick.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14060 on: July 3, 2022, 11:29:23 am »
Canít say the same about Stokes.  Absolutely idiotic.

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14061 on: July 3, 2022, 11:31:00 am »
Why?

I just don't get it.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14062 on: July 3, 2022, 11:32:34 am »
Stokes has been reckless all summer

He deserves to be questioned as much as Crawley.

World class my arse

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14063 on: July 3, 2022, 11:33:30 am »
stokes, again, is better than that

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14064 on: July 3, 2022, 11:38:09 am »
Get dropped and then immediately play the same shot? It's idiotic and he wasn't even bothered.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14065 on: July 3, 2022, 11:46:15 am »
For all Englandís determination to ďsaveĒ test cricket, they seem to want to appeal more to the one-day/Twenty20 crowd.

It wonít be boring to watch, thatís for sure.  But itís just not sustainable, especially when they come up against good teams.

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14066 on: July 3, 2022, 11:46:35 am »
Thing is with what we have right now we have to accept this. They donít have test match technique, so no point trying. We need to coach the next generation to have a technique but until then we have to accept one day stuff from one day players.

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14067 on: July 3, 2022, 11:52:04 am »
Wow Bairstow is in the zone isn't he?

Seems to be flourishing under this new approach.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14068 on: July 3, 2022, 11:54:01 am »
England seem to have gone, in short time, from a team that could get a sound start from the openers only to have a mid-order collapse, to one where the openers fail only for the middle order to stage a fightback.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14069 on: July 3, 2022, 12:00:57 pm »
England seem to have gone, in short time, from a team that could get a sound start from the openers only to have a mid-order collapse, to one where the openers fail only for the middle order to stage a fightback.

They haven't done that for a long time. They've frequently been 70/4 in most innings for about four years now. They haven't had a reliable opener since Cook left.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14070 on: July 3, 2022, 12:04:43 pm »
For all Englandís determination to ďsaveĒ test cricket, they seem to want to appeal more to the one-day/Twenty20 crowd.

It wonít be boring to watch, thatís for sure.  But itís just not sustainable, especially when they come up against good teams.
New Zealand are a very good team but I take your point
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14071 on: July 3, 2022, 12:16:01 pm »
They haven't done that for a long time. They've frequently been 70/4 in most innings for about four years now. They haven't had a reliable opener since Cook left.

I was thinking of Cook. I think your long time and my short time are one and the same thing😉
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14072 on: July 3, 2022, 12:44:33 pm »
Great piece of analysis from Kevin Pietersen, fascinating listening to him. I think he's an excellent addition to the commentary team.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14073 on: July 3, 2022, 01:05:13 pm »
For all Englandís determination to ďsaveĒ test cricket, they seem to want to appeal more to the one-day/Twenty20 crowd.

It wonít be boring to watch, thatís for sure.  But itís just not sustainable, especially when they come up against good teams.
Is it the case though that the money, therefore the emphasis, is on limited overs cricket?
Test cricket might be the 'pinnacle' of the sport , but even if the players want to focus on it the coaching and the practice will be for limited overs?
Don't know why other nations would be better at tests mind.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14074 on: July 3, 2022, 01:06:07 pm »
New Zealand are a very good team but I take your point
Oh of course.  Didnít mean to suggest they arenít.  But they were well below par in that series, so England were able to impose this new aggressive style.  When they come up against really good teams (ie India, NZ in form etc) I think theyíll get found out.  Will be interesting to see!

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14075 on: July 3, 2022, 01:19:06 pm »
Oh of course.  Didnít mean to suggest they arenít.  But they were well below par in that series, so England were able to impose this new aggressive style.  When they come up against really good teams (ie India, NZ in form etc) I think theyíll get found out.  Will be interesting to see!

But haven't they been found out playing the previous shit on a stick style? They have already set a low bar so they've nothing to lose with the new approach.
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« Reply #14076 on: July 3, 2022, 01:35:32 pm »
But haven't they been found out playing the previous shit on a stick style? They have already set a low bar so they've nothing to lose with the new approach.
True. I just think thereís a happy medium. But who knows - I could well be proved wrong when they dominate test cricket for the next 10 years  :D

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14077 on: July 3, 2022, 01:42:16 pm »
Wonderful knock again from Jonny B.
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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14078 on: July 3, 2022, 01:45:31 pm »
Centuries this year for Jonny B against Australia, West Indies, New Zealand and India.

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Re: The England Cricket Thread - 2022
« Reply #14079 on: July 3, 2022, 01:47:55 pm »
Heís got to be the form batsman in test cricket at the moment, and I canít imagine anyone ever expected that to be said of Johnny Bairstow
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