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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13600 on: August 17, 2022, 08:44:18 pm »
Kind of weird to speculate about his sentiment, mate

Does he strike you as a player who hasn't been willing to put the work in, or 'run through walls'? Doesn't look a lazy player to me when he plays, and Klopp seems to speak highly of him (but maybe he's just too tolerant of laziness).

'Seemingly upset about something and/or something else' (neither of which have been reported) seems just a little bit too speculative for this early stage

It comes from somewhere all of this. At best it’s his agent stirring up shit to get a better contract, at worst it’s that fueled by actual bits of discontent.

As I said, we don’t need the drama now. We really need players to focus and give their best.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13601 on: August 17, 2022, 08:46:59 pm »
I personally would let him see out his contract. We won't get much back for him anyway.

Well for 30 million at least.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13602 on: August 17, 2022, 08:46:59 pm »
It comes from somewhere all of this. At best it’s his agent stirring up shit to get a better contract, at worst it’s that fueled by actual bits of discontent.

As I said, we don’t need the drama now. We really need players to focus and give their best.
Possibly the club should have discussed this with him, and maybe even resolved it one way or the other, before the start of the season then? Although maybe they don't have the same goal as you, and also maybe don't see any issue with his focus or application or deem this as drama.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13603 on: August 17, 2022, 08:49:28 pm »
Well for 30 million at least.

No chance.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13604 on: August 17, 2022, 08:50:25 pm »
Such a shame the way this has all panned out. I remember watching him in a live Leipzig pre-season training session after we'd signed him & that weird 'no you can't have him for another year' transfer.

He hasn't quite been the player we thought we were getting from those highlight reels with Leipzig. We've had glimpses of him breaking forward and scoring goals, but it seemed to me, by the time he got here the fire had not exactly gone out but was no longer the raging inferno it was at Leipzig.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13605 on: August 17, 2022, 08:50:41 pm »
Be lucky to get £20m with his contract nearly up.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13606 on: August 17, 2022, 08:57:35 pm »
Was he fit on Monday? Watched the inside Anfield thing and he looked in his kit.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13607 on: August 17, 2022, 09:08:23 pm »
fuck all this, I cant believe Naby himself is making these noises, he wouldn't leave the team or Klopp hanging with 10 minutes left in the window.
This doesn't sound right to me...
Unless there's an agreement to let him go because we can replace him pretty bloody quickly...Hes won a lot with us and was always a team player. Never heard him complain before.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13608 on: August 17, 2022, 09:14:11 pm »
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  Liverpool have received no indication of Naby Keita being unhappy with his situation and maintain a good relationship with him and his representatives. [@IanDoyleSport]

Reddy saying Keita is unhappy. Is she even in the loop anymore?

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13609 on: August 17, 2022, 09:15:39 pm »
Agents do what agents do, someone is making the noises.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13610 on: August 17, 2022, 09:22:36 pm »
Reddy saying Keita is unhappy. Is she even in the loop anymore?

It’s coming from Sky Germany. Same people who got wind of Mane first and they share the same agency

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13611 on: August 17, 2022, 09:27:09 pm »
Agents do what agents do, someone is making the noises.

Maybe Keita's agents are copying Henderson and his agents public negotiation tactics from last August

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13612 on: August 17, 2022, 09:30:03 pm »
Reddy saying Keita is unhappy. Is she even in the loop anymore?

Can say the same about Ian Doyle with half the garbage he writes as well.

Not sure why this would be surprising, he wants a new deal and to stay at LFC and if a little public pressure helps with that then so be it. Considering what we just went through with Mo you'd think some people around here would be used to this but I guess not.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13613 on: August 17, 2022, 09:30:17 pm »
Not the player we thought we were signing to be honest, if he goes he goes. I thought a cross between Ray Houghton, Jari Litmanen and Harry Kewel rolled into one😊

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13614 on: August 17, 2022, 09:35:39 pm »
Not the player we thought we were signing to be honest, if he goes he goes. I thought a cross between Ray Houghton, Jari Litmanen and Harry Kewel rolled into one😊

So not the player YOU thought we where signing then!

 
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13615 on: August 17, 2022, 09:39:25 pm »
So not the player YOU thought we where signing then!
Not just him...

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13616 on: August 17, 2022, 09:42:18 pm »
Not just him...

Maybe it’s best to watch a player first before deciding what fomer players they compare with.

I mean, Jari Litmanen and Harry Kewell?  ;D
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13617 on: August 17, 2022, 09:51:41 pm »
Okay then, he wasn’t the player the club thought they’d payed 50 odd million for as it turns out.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13618 on: August 17, 2022, 09:53:45 pm »
Razor was my main point, industrious and could score. Litmanen maybe and Kewell speaks for itself.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13619 on: August 17, 2022, 09:55:19 pm »
Okay then, he wasn’t the player the club thought they’d payed 50 odd million for as it turns out.

he probably was in terms of how he played/plays, surely despite the frustarations, we’ve seen that in him.  But in terms of durability and ability to play through niggles and to get and stay fit after numerous injuries - no, he wasn’t. 
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13620 on: August 17, 2022, 09:57:08 pm »
Okay then, he wasn’t the player the club thought they’d payed 50 odd million for as it turns out.

By "club" I'm assuming you mean Klopp and Edwards.  Do you have some sort of insight into what they thought they were getting when we signed Keita?  Because, if not, then it's still what YOU were expecting. 

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13621 on: August 17, 2022, 10:00:49 pm »
There is no measurements to be made if a player isn’t fit, it’s plain to see if he went it wouldn’t be to much of a loss besides financial. In my opinion😳

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13622 on: August 17, 2022, 10:06:33 pm »
Oh, so you are unhappy Naby? How wonderful, who is to blame for this unhappiness I wonder.

Would not lose much sleep if he was sold is how I’d sum up his time with Liverpool.

Bit of a strange comment, this one...?

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13623 on: August 17, 2022, 10:06:48 pm »

Timing is a bit mischievous, is his agent trying to get more money in the middle of a midfield crisis? Could
Of course be absolute bollocks from sky


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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13624 on: August 17, 2022, 10:07:42 pm »
If he goes and we have someone lined up before the window closes, I could live with that.

My best guess is Bosman next summer, but we will see.

If he does stay then hopefully he can stay fit and show us his best, as there's definitely an opportunity for him to stake a claim and be a main man in the midfield.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13625 on: August 17, 2022, 10:08:37 pm »
It's a shame but I think the succession of injuries has effected him both physically and mentally and he is now nowhere near the midfield tiger we saw at Leipzig.
It's sad to see a player lose faith in his own body, especially one so talented.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13626 on: August 17, 2022, 10:13:57 pm »
nothing wrong in saying he didn't live up to expectations, those injuries clearly shook his confidence.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13627 on: August 17, 2022, 10:14:39 pm »
The lad has something to offer somewhere but not here.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13628 on: August 17, 2022, 10:16:53 pm »
There is no measurements to be made if a player isn’t fit, it’s plain to see if he went it wouldn’t be to much of a loss besides financial. In my opinion😳
WHat I don't understand is why you're saying this now, on the back of a season where he was more available than before (even despite AFCON). Same applies for Matip.

Given both their issues with availability the season before, you'd have said they were no loss (besides financial), and yet both played pretty big roles in the country's closest run at a quadruple in history. Have to look beyond 'did they have a lot of injuries' and consider their ability and contributions and whether their fitness can be better managed (as we appeared to manage last season)

Worth noting Keita was played in 23 PL games last season. Hendo had a season with 17 appearances, followed by 24 and then 27 - one of them being a sub for 1 minute (Hendo started a larger proportion obviously, but you're talking about being fit). Players get injured, yet can still return and be regularly available to contribute at a good level.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13629 on: August 17, 2022, 10:29:51 pm »
I was waiting for this stats thing and thank you, I know Naby had some big input in games and in the overall season. I’m not comparing him to Henderson, I could in this chat in appearances and influence if you like?
My opinion not the clubs is that we signed a world class prospect and it didn’t work out, I just think losing him now wouldn’t be to much of a loss if he wants to go.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13630 on: August 17, 2022, 10:32:48 pm »
His injury mismanagement by Guinea was spectacular, too

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13631 on: August 17, 2022, 10:40:07 pm »
Timing is a bit mischievous, is his agent trying to get more money in the middle of a midfield crisis? Could
Of course be absolute bollocks from sky

More that he couldn't get on off the bench against Palace during a midfield crisis with Ox, Jones and Thiago all injured and Hendo not fit to start. Hendo comes on off the bench, Carvalho comes on off the bench and 36 year old Milner starts. 2 days later and it's briefed that he won't be signing a contract and he's not happy.
Could have done with Grujic and even Chirivella to tide us over this season

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13632 on: August 17, 2022, 10:40:53 pm »
It’s not necessarily anyone’s fault but I’m thinking wrong time wrong place, if someone comes in it may be better for all parties.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13633 on: August 17, 2022, 10:43:04 pm »
More that he couldn't get on off the bench against Palace during a midfield crisis with Ox, Jones and Thiago all injured and Hendo not fit to start. Hendo comes on off the bench, Carvalho comes on off the bench and 36 year old Milner starts. 2 days later and it's briefed that he won't be signing a contract and he's not happy.

Exactly.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13634 on: August 17, 2022, 10:54:17 pm »
More that he couldn't get on off the bench against Palace during a midfield crisis with Ox, Jones and Thiago all injured and Hendo not fit to start. Hendo comes on off the bench, Carvalho comes on off the bench and 36 year old Milner starts. 2 days later and it's briefed that he won't be signing a contract and he's not happy.

It didn't say he won't be signing a contract.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13635 on: August 17, 2022, 10:55:42 pm »
It’s not necessarily anyone’s fault but I’m thinking wrong time wrong place, if someone comes in it may be better for all parties.
He's taking the piss after four injury-ridden and inconsistent seasons.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13636 on: August 17, 2022, 11:02:53 pm »
He’ll likely want more than what he’s currently on looking for what, 4, 5 year deal? Can’t imagine he’d take pay cut and we’d be nuts to give him one. Sell him if there are any buyers or let him leave for free otherwise we’ll be stuck with him for the foreseeable future while being on some hefty wages.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13637 on: August 17, 2022, 11:08:58 pm »
He's taking the piss after four injury-ridden and inconsistent seasons.

You must have absolutely despised Oxlade Chamberlain for getting a new contract while extra inconsistent during his recovery from the horrific ligament injuries, the piss-taker

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13638 on: August 17, 2022, 11:12:00 pm »
You must have absolutely despised Oxlade Chamberlain for getting a new contract while extra inconsistent during his recovery from the horrific ligament injuries, the piss-taker
Ox is a different case. He was a key player before his knee injury - helped us get to a Champions League final and started many games in our 19-game winning streak in 19/20.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #13639 on: August 17, 2022, 11:18:11 pm »
He's taking the piss after four injury-ridden and inconsistent seasons.

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