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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15040 on: January 18, 2023, 11:40:26 am »
Positive performance last night, needs to build on that.

Can see him being dropped on the weekend.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15041 on: January 18, 2023, 01:20:30 pm »
This popped up on my Twitter feed so it may well be wrong. He does seem to have played far fewer minutes than he could have but there’s also the hidden question when he’s on the bench, ‘is he actually fit to play significant minutes in this game?’

Or is the fact that he's actually not playing that many minutes allowing him to be fit and available on the bench?

It's a fitness tightrope we have to walk with him, which is a shame.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15042 on: January 18, 2023, 01:52:18 pm »
Whatever happens at the end of the season happens but while Keita is fit then you should play him especially when there are midfielders in poor form.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15043 on: January 18, 2023, 02:45:47 pm »
Whatever happens at the end of the season happens but while Keita is fit then you should play him especially when there are midfielders in poor form.

That's the dilemma - play him too much and we know he will break down.

Don't play him - and we have a huge midfield problem.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15044 on: January 18, 2023, 03:05:53 pm »
Whatever happens at the end of the season happens but while Keita is fit then you should play him especially when there are midfielders in poor form.
I'd rather we played the kids who we think are still going to be here in a few seasons time. Pointless getting him ready for his next club.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15045 on: January 18, 2023, 03:29:55 pm »
I'd rather we played the kids who we think are still going to be here in a few seasons time. Pointless getting him ready for his next club.

The more he plays the more likely we are to get top 4.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15046 on: January 18, 2023, 03:38:35 pm »
This popped up on my Twitter feed so it may well be wrong. He does seem to have played far fewer minutes than he could have but there’s also the hidden question when he’s on the bench, ‘is he actually fit to play significant minutes in this game?’

People have been using this as a reason he hasn't been playing since the season restarted a month ago and then he goes and plays 90 minutes yesterday. I just think Klopp prefers Henderson which to me seems strange based on what we have been seeing on the pitch since the beginning of last season from both of them. We have Naby for a few more months and right now he gets in our strongest 11 if you put all other matters to one side. With Champions League football at stake, we should be making unbiased football decisions to help us get the best results.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15047 on: January 18, 2023, 04:47:29 pm »
The more he plays the more likely we are to get top 4.

Top 4? That went ages ago. For me, it’s about getting into Europe (but not the dreaded Conference League).

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15048 on: January 18, 2023, 04:53:46 pm »
Top 4? That went ages ago. For me, it’s about getting into Europe (but not the dreaded Conference League).

10 points behind Newcastle with a game in hand? If we beat Chelsea and confidence gets a boost I am not as pessimistic.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15049 on: January 18, 2023, 05:04:31 pm »
Top 4? That went ages ago. For me, it’s about getting into Europe (but not the dreaded Conference League).
All we need is a good run. We've been on an uncharacteristically horrible run thus far. I'm pretty confident that if we play like we know how, we can get top four.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15050 on: January 18, 2023, 05:50:46 pm »
All we need is a good run. We've been on an uncharacteristically horrible run thus far. I'm pretty confident that if we play like we know how, we can get top four.
pretty much in the same position we were in last year with regard the gap, although obviously for a different place. String a few wins together and it breeds confidence. It'll be tough but it's certainly not a foregone conclusion that we miss out
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15051 on: January 18, 2023, 05:56:40 pm »
Top 4? That went ages ago. For me, it’s about getting into Europe (but not the dreaded Conference League).

We're still not even half way through the league fixtures. Keep Fabinho and Henderson away from the pitch and we've a great chance.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15052 on: January 18, 2023, 05:57:55 pm »
People have been using this as a reason he hasn't been playing since the season restarted a month ago and then he goes and plays 90 minutes yesterday. I just think Klopp prefers Henderson which to me seems strange based on what we have been seeing on the pitch since the beginning of last season from both of them. We have Naby for a few more months and right now he gets in our strongest 11 if you put all other matters to one side. With Champions League football at stake, we should be making unbiased football decisions to help us get the best results.

Easy to forget but players who return after a long lay off need essentially a pre season all over again. He's been eased back in and now he's had a full 90 under his belt, hopefully we'll see a lot more of him.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15053 on: January 18, 2023, 06:29:24 pm »
That's the dilemma - play him too much and we know he will break down.

Don't play him - and we have a huge midfield problem.

Just play him when he's available. Period. You can wrap him up in cotton wool and he still gets injured.

We now just expect him to randomly break down unfortunately, and with our midfield needs so obvious you just have to play him and hope for the best.

Hopefully he has a barnstorming end to the season in an effort to win a bumper new contract either with us or elsewhere. Would leave us with feeling of what might have been, but that would be better than him being useless to the end of the season.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15054 on: January 18, 2023, 06:46:57 pm »
He played alright in a fashion but shouldn't be there going forward, we have to be more ruthless. We need someone who gets stuck in and I know he is fragile and scared of more injuries but he pulled out of at least one tackle last night. We have kept  too many players past their best and we need to stop.

He won't get a new deal in my opinion unless he takes a drastic pay cut, So he will be gone in the summer!

But right now, He's fit which means he's a much better option than some of our other midfielders... so he must play as much as possible

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15055 on: January 19, 2023, 07:58:37 am »
It's madness to give up on top 4 already. One of the Uniteds will have a run of poor form - neither, particularly Newcastle, is as good as their recent records suggest - and the teams from 5th-8th are all hit-and-miss. A five or six-game winning streak - which we're more than capable of, especially as our forwards re-enter the fray - would put us right up there again. So no, I cannot agree with the idea of sidelining the players we expect to leave in summer, especially when there's so many of them. It'll also do the kids more good to play in an experienced team than a youth team getting regularly slaughtered.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15056 on: January 19, 2023, 08:40:33 am »
10 points behind Newcastle with a game in hand? If we beat Chelsea and confidence gets a boost I am not as pessimistic.

Hoping for another collapse from a strong position for Newcastle. Would love it if we beat them, love it.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15057 on: January 20, 2023, 07:20:13 am »
I’m hoping Keita starts at the weekend but I think Klopp will go with the tried and tested.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15058 on: January 20, 2023, 10:50:48 am »
I’m hoping Keita starts at the weekend but I think Klopp will go with the tried and tested.

I can see and understand if he picks Fabinho or Henderson over Bajetic but there is absolutely no way he can start with both of them.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15059 on: January 20, 2023, 11:22:34 am »
I’m hoping Keita starts at the weekend but I think Klopp will go with the tried and tested.

No fault of Keita's, so long as his body doesn't actually explode, he should not be replaced by Henderson on Saturday lunchtime.

If that happens it is all on Klopp. There has to be a meritocracy and Naby was solid and decent against Wolves and Henderson has been "very poor" against various.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15060 on: January 20, 2023, 11:24:51 am »
Fucking do as I say Klopp, you shit bastard
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15061 on: January 20, 2023, 11:30:50 am »
Fucking do as I say Klopp, you shit bastard

If that's aimed at me: Klopp has said he is not "too loyal" so let's see what he does on Saturday. I personally don't believe Hendo is worth a shirt atm, as much as I admire
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15062 on: January 20, 2023, 12:01:43 pm »
I’m hoping Keita starts at the weekend but I think Klopp will go with the tried and tested failed.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15063 on: January 20, 2023, 12:14:33 pm »
If we get a Fab-Hendo-Thiago midfield against Chelsea I'll be so fucked off I may decide not to call my 3rd child Jurgen (no bloody way I'm going in for 3rds but still...)

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15064 on: January 20, 2023, 12:17:11 pm »
I presume he is out for the weekend after that tip he got during the wolves game?

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15065 on: January 20, 2023, 12:26:47 pm »
Seriously, our players get tips? You'd think their base salaries were good enough.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15066 on: January 20, 2023, 12:29:42 pm »
I presume he is out for the weekend after that tip he got during the wolves game?

I'm trying to remember if we had 10 months of these Keita must be injured gags when he played 40 games last season.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15067 on: January 21, 2023, 03:08:45 pm »
Made the pass of the game. I wish Salah had made more of it.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15068 on: January 21, 2023, 03:09:53 pm »
Another decent game, Klopp obviously managing his minutes, if he can stay fit from now till end of the season it will help us massively

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15069 on: January 21, 2023, 03:10:19 pm »
Made the pass of the game. I wish Salah had made more of it.
Was offside anyway.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15070 on: January 21, 2023, 03:10:56 pm »
Some annoying giveaways but was decent and we pretty much started getting wrecked as soon as he went off but luckily Mudryk kept miscontrolling the ball.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15071 on: January 21, 2023, 03:12:27 pm »
Made the pass of the game. I wish Salah had made more of it.

Oh I missed that did it lead to a goal? If we are so dependant on Naby it shows what a mess we are in.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15072 on: January 21, 2023, 03:12:56 pm »
Some annoying giveaways but was decent and we pretty much started getting wrecked as soon as he went off but luckily Mudryk kept miscontrolling the ball.

He was involved more than Harvey, should have stayed on.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15073 on: January 21, 2023, 03:15:48 pm »
Another decent game, Klopp obviously managing his minutes, if he can stay fit from now till end of the season it will help us massively

Yeah pretty clear he's being eased back in. His minutes other than the Wolves game have been that of a pre season sort of schedule, which is expected after a long lay off for a player like Naby who you need to be careful with. I think we'll start to see more of him now he's had two consecutive starts. I think he'll likely start against Brighton.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15074 on: January 21, 2023, 04:58:29 pm »
Thought he was fairly anonymous. Good try to claim handball though ;D

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15075 on: January 21, 2023, 05:40:15 pm »
thought he was really poor, apart from that ball to Salah

Looks really slow and seemed unable to make a simple 5 yard pass, feel sorry for him now he's really struggling, maybe he's not fully fit

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15076 on: January 21, 2023, 06:26:21 pm »
I’m hoping Keita starts at the weekend but I think Klopp will go with the tried and tested.

I read 'tired and tested'...which seems quite apt  :(
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15077 on: January 21, 2023, 06:37:13 pm »
He was involved in a couple of (and our only) nice build up plays. And that pass to Salah was filth.

Off the ball he wasn't that active and gassed off in the second half (as he often does). Overall an okay-ish performance.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15078 on: January 21, 2023, 07:24:31 pm »
He was involved in a couple of (and our only) nice build up plays. And that pass to Salah was filth.

Off the ball he wasn't that active and gassed off in the second half (as he often does). Overall an okay-ish performance.

how can he be gassed? is it just match fitness? maybe it's worth keeping him in for another bit

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15079 on: January 21, 2023, 07:30:40 pm »
Either way - since he's been playing after the WC we look much better in the midfield.