Topic: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition

[slaphead]

Shame there's not more in media like Ian Wright. I don't say that because he seems to like us but because he's fair. That's all you want really.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

“If it wasn’t for Liverpool, this fucking league would be shit.” -  Ian Wright.

^ https://twitter.com/Watch_LFC/status/1561431233237852161 (with 30 second video)

I think he's a dude

[Bread]

“If it wasn’t for Liverpool, this fucking league would be shit.” -  Ian Wright.

^ https://twitter.com/Watch_LFC/status/1561431233237852161 (with 30 second video)

I find it astonishing that this sentiment isn't echoed more often. If it weren't for us, City would have won the league 5 years in a row and it'd have been by a landslide points margin every time.

[xbugawugax]

unfortunate that the likes of the rat and carra gets all the media time when all they talk is the party line

thats how media is run anyway. We are living in the world of idiocracy.

honest folks like wright doesn't generate enough "banter" and "trolls" to be given more air time.

and honestly i dont actually think he is a liverpool fan but fan of football in general. If the other club that is pushing the Oil c*nts to the limit he would be echoing the same sentiments.

[Kopenhagen]

Disgraceful from SKY tonight. Puke-inducing.

[slaphead]

Disgraceful from SKY tonight. Puke-inducing.

I muted it when Carragher said the last time Van Dijk and Gomez played together was the 7-2 away to Villa and this one could be the same score. Get away to f**k with that

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Don't watch Sky, it's very very simple, for a start none of you should be giving them your money, watch a stream even if it's in Swahili, they'll still make more sense to you than Ratboy and the Turncoat.

[RedBec1993]

The screaming cheering when they scored from
Neville!! Carra seems really eager to criticise Virgil first opportunity he gets.

[rushyman]

I fucking hate sky

[Keith Lard]

The screaming cheering when they scored from
Neville!! Carra seems really eager to criticise Virgil first opportunity he gets.

Carra is awful. He has a dubious character. He showed it as a player - remember him bullying arbeloa, not backing rafa in fight against hicks and Gillette. And now he’s a very self serving pundit that says whenever he needs to to stay relevant

[Sheer Magnetism]

Carra is awful. He has a dubious character. He showed it as a player - remember him bullying arbeloa, not backing rafa in fight against hicks and Gillette. And now he’s a very self serving pundit that says whenever he needs to to stay relevant

Always think it's interesting how this gets used against Carra and never Gerrard or any of the other players in that squad, including the ones who took the first opportunity they could to jump ship. Funny that.

[DangerScouse]

Carragher is a fucking twat. Zero hesitation laying into Trent when he was poor but conversely not a word when ge did well in the early head to heads with Elanga or with some of his passes which were brilliant.

[bradders1011]

Carragher is a gobshite.

I'm so sick and tired of football broadcasting being a banter competition. No other sport does this, no other sport would get away with it. A little bit of fucking professionalism and dispassionate analysis of the sport is all that we ask, but @crucialvestergaard and @chelsea19482284 retweet Sky's stupid videos a billion times so we get what we deserve.

Sky sucking itself off all year for inventing football 30 years ago. Not content with that, they've decided to kill cricket as well.

[RedBec1993]

Carra is awful. He has a dubious character. He showed it as a player - remember him bullying arbeloa, not backing rafa in fight against hicks and Gillette. And now he’s a very self serving pundit that says whenever he needs to to stay relevant

He does it with Trent aswell, which fair enough he’s a pundit. But he just goes over the top with Virgil and Trent. Maybe because the expectation of them both is so high,  I don’t know.  It’s just the raving from sky about united, like they were amazing, they weren’t. We were just very poor.

[Tonyh8su]

Somehow Sky went even beyond their usual tonight and it was truly vomit inducing. Anyone left on the fence before tonight surely can no longer be. They showed their hand the entire way through. Cancelling them tomorrow as is my Da.

[Kalito]

Carra is awful. He has a dubious character. He showed it as a player - remember him bullying arbeloa, not backing rafa in fight against hicks and Gillette. And now he’s a very self serving pundit that says whenever he needs to to stay relevant

Once a Blue, always a Blue.

[Learpholl]

Nedum Onuoha has been great on Football Weekly. Really honest and actually has opinions. First heard him on Football Cliches and he was very entertaining on that, delighted he's getting more work.

[slaphead]

Nedum Onuoha has been great on Football Weekly. Really honest and actually has opinions. First heard him on Football Cliches and he was very entertaining on that, delighted he's getting more work.

He's really good. If you get the chance look up the interview he did with Graham Hunter on a Podcast where he talks about pundits and how they use lazy , tired sayings all the time which make no sense and how he'll talk about what's going on not about something where he has an agenda. It's a great listen.

[gerrardisgod]

Yep, always thought he was a great listen when he’d show up on ESPN videos.

But then that could also be because he’s alongside Nicol, Lebouef and Alejandro fucking Moreno.

[Fromola]

The screaming cheering when they scored from
Neville!! Carra seems really eager to criticise Virgil first opportunity he gets.

Because since Virg signed nobody talked about Carragher anymore, or would have him in the conversation as our best PL defender.

[Fromola]

Somehow Sky went even beyond their usual tonight and it was truly vomit inducing. Anyone left on the fence before tonight surely can no longer be. They showed their hand the entire way through. Cancelling them tomorrow as is my Da.

It's always been MUTV but the way we're treated is bizarre. You'd think they'd be mindful of the fact a high number of their subscribers will be Liverpool fans. It's why our games get moved all the time ffs.

[RedBec1993]

Because since Virg signed nobody talked about Carragher anymore, or would have him in the conversation as our best PL defender.

Yeah that’s true. We were poor as a collective but I didn’t understand the eagerness to lay into Virgil. Trent is always a scapegoat for when we concede anyway, even if he was at fault for one. Can’t get tickets to the aways but think I’d rather not watch than listen to that lot.

[Kopenhagen]

Somehow Sky went even beyond their usual tonight and it was truly vomit inducing. Anyone left on the fence before tonight surely can no longer be. They showed their hand the entire way through. Cancelling them tomorrow as is my Da.

Yeah, like, many of us have despised them and the rat for years, but last night was another level. I used to give Carragher some slack but he's a disgrace honestly.

[Kopenhagen]

Yep, always thought he was a great listen when he’d show up on ESPN videos.

But then that could also be because he’s alongside Nicol, Lebouef and Alejandro fucking Moreno.

He was on MotD last season and was very good.

[Nick110581]

Neville and Carragher are a pair of massive c*nts.

Both make football unbearable.

[Legs]

Neville and Carragher are a pair of massive c*nts.

Both make football unbearable.

Correct just have to turn tv down or find a station overseas showing it.

[Circa1892]

Because since Virg signed nobody talked about Carragher anymore, or would have him in the conversation as our best PL defender.

I mean - he was never in that conversation.

He had longevity and what not - but Sami Hyypia was fundamentally a better CB than Carragher in every way. Likewise Agger. At his best Henchoz was a better CB aswell.

[RedBec1993]

I do try give carra some slack, because I genuinely think he does love the club. But I just think he goes over the top in trying to not sound biased whilst sitting next to Martin Tyler the most biased person in the business!

[Red Ol]

The self indulgent MU love fest was truly nauseating yesterday. Gary Neville is an awful pundit, Carragher not much better … and Martin Tyler has always been shit but he’s now 10yrs past his shit sell by date and he still getting away with his obsequious puke inducing drivel. 

I can deal with a defeat. We had a poor day at the office. I just can’t stand the Sky coverage. If it’s not championing the darlings of old Trafford it’s the perpetuation of sports washing or the dumb ‘bantz’. It’s worse than ever. Am packing this lot in now (yes - I should have done it years ago) and will just have to make do with dodgy streams.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

The self indulgent MU love fest was truly nauseating yesterday. Gary Neville is an awful pundit, Carragher not much better … and Martin Tyler has always been shit but he’s now 10yrs past his shit sell by date and he still getting away with his obsequious puke inducing drivel. 

I can deal with a defeat. We had a poor day at the office. I just can’t stand the Sky coverage. If it’s not championing the darlings of old Trafford it’s the perpetuation of sports washing or the dumb ‘bantz’. It’s worse than ever. Am packing this lot in now (yes - I should have done it years ago) and will just have to make do with dodgy streams.

Get yourself an IPTV sub mate, there's a thread about it in kne of the sub forums.

[Fromola]

I mean - he was never in that conversation.

He had longevity and what not - but Sami Hyypia was fundamentally a better CB than Carragher in every way. Likewise Agger. At his best Henchoz was a better CB aswell.

In reality he wasn't (Hyypia carried him), but after he left and we were a defensive shambles under Rodgers (and in Klopp's early seasons) he'd still get smoke blown up his arse on Sky or whatever with "they still need you at the back Jamie he he he" which he enjoyed. Plus he never won a league title here. Then Virg comes in and performs like a beast and wins the lot and nobody talks about Carragher anymore.

[klopptopia]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/08/23/sorry-gary-neville-want-expert-analysis-not-fan-boy-antics/

Sadly i dont think most fans believe this now, would rather the "bantz"

would happily never listen to either of them on a MUFC or LFC game again

[Fromola]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/08/23/sorry-gary-neville-want-expert-analysis-not-fan-boy-antics/

Sadly i dont think most fans believe this now, would rather the "bantz"

would happily never listen to either of them on a MUFC or LFC game again

Neville got a good rep when he started, mainly because of just how bad the coverage had got under Keys and Gray. Neville mimicked more the early 90s Andy Gray in offering some detailed analysis. He also wasn't biased, he kept his allegiances to himself for the most part. I remember when we stuffed them at Old Trafford in 13/14 looking like we'd win the league and he was full of praise and none of the hysterics about United IIRC.

It's that bad now that i'd rather have Keys and Gray back. Not that I listen to any of it now anyway but you can't always avoid the memes, the bitesize banter, the Keane rants, the tawdry arguments or the Neville monologues all over social media.

The worst thing that happened was Carragher joining because then it became all about the banter. Neville could take the mask off and start acting like he's on MUTV or the United equivalent of Arsenal Fan Tv. It's absolutely ridiculous, but it's Sky Sports all over - dumbing down for the masses. That parody video the other week that got millions of views, Carragher and Neville were buzzing their tits off it on Twitter. Not embarrassed but loving the attention. Pathetic the pair of them. Too shit and useless to be managers/succeed at management or coaching so resort to being parodies of themselves on a sofa and double down to keep the money rolling in.

[Jack_Bauer]

In reality he wasn't (Hyypia carried him), but after he left and we were a defensive shambles under Rodgers (and in Klopp's early seasons) he'd still get smoke blown up his arse on Sky or whatever with "they still need you at the back Jamie he he he" which he enjoyed. Plus he never won a league title here. Then Virg comes in and performs like a beast and wins the lot and nobody talks about Carragher anymore.

I'm sure he loves all the "Liverpool Would Have Won The League In 13/14 If You Stayed On Jamie" comments people like to throw about.

[Jack_Bauer]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/08/23/sorry-gary-neville-want-expert-analysis-not-fan-boy-antics/

Sadly i dont think most fans believe this now, would rather the "bantz"

would happily never listen to either of them on a MUFC or LFC game again

Im sure the Sky/BT audiences want a proper analysis of the games and not the shitty "bantz" by the likes of Neville, Carragher, Richards and Jenas.

[Jack_Bauer]

“If it wasn’t for Liverpool, this fucking league would be shit.” -  Ian Wright.

^ https://twitter.com/Watch_LFC/status/1561431233237852161 (with 30 second video)

He's not wrong either. This league the past 5 years without us being able to push City would be a lot worse than it has been. And it helps the PL prop up the Best League In The World" narrative.

[bradders1011]

Carl Anka is the pseudo-intellectual's pseudo-intellectual.

[tubby]

[redgriffin73]

The man is an absolute basket case. I'm just surprised he didn't shoehorn something about Salah in there too.

[spen71]

Fuck off Fletch!  He talks some utter shite.