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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104800 on: July 6, 2022, 10:42:32 am »
Suppose this could be the case.

There is talks about him being loaned out, so I guess that is the reason

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104801 on: July 6, 2022, 12:12:45 pm »
https://twitter.com/neiljonesgoal/status/1544628679925530625

Young left-back Owen Beck expected to leave Liverpool on loan this week. He's set to join Portuguese Primeira Liga outfit Famalicão for the season.

Could be a great move for him that. If he's first choice or quickly becomes their starter and plays a whole season at a decent enough level it'll be really big for him. Could impress then go to a higher level on loan or could even attract teams to want to buy him. Hopefully though he stay around at Liverpool, but with Robertson and Tsimikas ahead of him it's going to be tough for him to see games in the next few years, which is why I can see him going out on loan again after this season to get even more experience.

Seems we have quite a few youngsters going out on loan this season
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104802 on: July 6, 2022, 12:22:41 pm »
Potentially a great move for Beck.  Really liked what I saw of him in the youth teams, hope he gets a proper chance on loan.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104803 on: July 6, 2022, 02:05:41 pm »
I don't think he's ever played as a 6.. Much more of a mix between box-to-box mid and right back.
Never seen him as a 6 myself either. Played at RB a lot this past season, and was used as a box to box and even on the wing the season prior. He’s got a lot in his locker and a great athletic profile so it’s natural that they’re experimenting with different roles.
I’ll be curious to see where he plays most of his minutes this season. We don’t have an awful lot of RB options in the academy system with Bradley on loan now. Josh Davidson will probably be 1st choice at u18 level after he had a nice breakthrough last season. At the u21 level though Mabaya is probably it, unless we see new boy Ramsay play a lot of reserve football, which is kind of a shame as I’d like to see him in a more advanced position. Obviously we know that our fullbacks are essentially attackers anyway, I just think he’s got a lot of interesting tools that could make him an intriguing forward.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104804 on: July 6, 2022, 02:09:25 pm »
On the Beck news, it’s quite interesting to me that we’ve got so many top class LBs coming through our academy at once. Beck, James Norris, Luke Chambers, Calum Scanlon are all rated highly (and I’m probably forgetting someone). Norris has been used as a utility player a la his namesake Milner, but they’re all natural LBs.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104805 on: July 6, 2022, 03:02:43 pm »
On the Beck news, it’s quite interesting to me that we’ve got so many top class LBs coming through our academy at once. Beck, James Norris, Luke Chambers, Calum Scanlon are all rated highly (and I’m probably forgetting someone). Norris has been used as a utility player a la his namesake Milner, but they’re all natural LBs.

I was just thinking this the other day but with right backs funnily enough. Trent obviously, even though he came through years ago now, but in recent years Neco Williams and Conor Bradley who we have high hopes for I think. Mabaya looks very good and I feel like there's another youngster currently in the set up who is promising and a right back.

Klopp or Pep (the good, non-bald one) mentioned recently something about wanting to be a 'school of goalkeepers', maybe now we want to become a school of full backs  ;D
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104806 on: July 6, 2022, 05:52:21 pm »
On the Beck news, it’s quite interesting to me that we’ve got so many top class LBs coming through our academy at once. Beck, James Norris, Luke Chambers, Calum Scanlon are all rated highly (and I’m probably forgetting someone). Norris has been used as a utility player a la his namesake Milner, but they’re all natural LBs.

Would say it’s our strongest position right now, and I think that extends all the way to the first team right down to our academy.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104807 on: July 7, 2022, 11:55:27 am »
Article on Kone-Doherty on the Athletic saying he is mustard. Rapid, can play on either wing, end product, sensible and grounded.  Fingers crossed

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104808 on: July 7, 2022, 01:55:22 pm »
Article on Kone-Doherty on the Athletic saying he is mustard. Rapid, can play on either wing, end product, sensible and grounded.  Fingers crossed
Excited to see this new u18 group in action. Some really highly rated kids who are youth internationals. New Trent, Keyrol Figueroa, Josh Davidson etc will tear it up. Curious to see if the other new boy Ben Doak will go straight to the u21s.
Neil jones says today that Morton, Cain, Clarkson, Sepp, Glatzel and Bearne will all be loaned out. With Balagizi already out on loan, we’re going to see a major lineup overhaul at the u21 level. Midfield in particular will be intriguing as basically all first choice lads from last year will be away. Something like Bajcetic, Clark, Frauendorf perhaps? Luca Stephenson will likely be a mainstay as well, but as a 6 Bajcetic is streets ahead imo. Mabaya may also get some more midfield minutes and we may see James McConnell play up some as well. He was impressive for the u18s when fit last year.
Lastly, I am curious to see what Layton Stewart’s season will look like. Will he be first choice now at u23 level or get a Glatzel style loan to L2?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104809 on: July 9, 2022, 03:24:23 pm »
Apparently the U21s drew in a friendly today. Good to see young Jay Spearing get some minutes after a long absence.

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/lfc-u21s-play-out-friendly-draw-caernarfon-town

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104810 on: July 9, 2022, 03:34:23 pm »
Apparently the U21s drew in a friendly today. Good to see young Jay Spearing get some minutes after a long absence.

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/lfc-u21s-play-out-friendly-draw-caernarfon-town


See the follow up story of Anderson Arroyo going on loan to Alaves,after somehow getting a new contract,now 22.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104811 on: July 9, 2022, 10:23:25 pm »
Why somehow? He is impressing on loan if he keeps progressing he will get a loan o a top division and hopefu9we can make some money on him.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104812 on: July 9, 2022, 10:26:34 pm »
Excited to see this new u18 group in action. Some really highly rated kids who are youth internationals. New Trent, Keyrol Figueroa, Josh Davidson etc will tear it up. Curious to see if the other new boy Ben Doak will go straight to the u21s.
Neil jones says today that Morton, Cain, Clarkson, Sepp, Glatzel and Bearne will all be loaned out. With Balagizi already out on loan, we’re going to see a major lineup overhaul at the u21 level. Midfield in particular will be intriguing as basically all first choice lads from last year will be away. Something like Bajcetic, Clark, Frauendorf perhaps? Luca Stephenson will likely be a mainstay as well, but as a 6 Bajcetic is streets ahead imo. Mabaya may also get some more midfield minutes and we may see James McConnell play up some as well. He was impressive for the u18s when fit last year.
Lastly, I am curious to see what Layton Stewart’s season will look like. Will he be first choice now at u23 level or get a Glatzel style loan to L2?

Leyton missed over 12 months with his injury and only started playing a bit at the end of last season.  No way he would be risked on a loan.  They’ll want to manage him very closely, at least for the first half of the season.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104813 on: July 9, 2022, 10:26:41 pm »
Kaide Gordon not amongst those going on tour supposedly as he is still in returning from injury. Anyone know what injury he had? It must be a serious one as he last played a game in February.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104814 on: July 9, 2022, 10:36:58 pm »
Minor issue in march which he was supposed to be returning from quickly….  So who knows?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104815 on: July 10, 2022, 09:21:10 am »
Wonder if Quansah, Stewart, Musialowski not going away on preseason means they've got loan moves lined up

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104816 on: July 10, 2022, 10:17:10 am »
Wonder if Quansah, Stewart, Musialowski not going away on preseason means they've got loan moves lined up
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Personally I think Musialowski is too inconsistent  for a loan move at this point, and as I said above, Stewart is still recovering from a very long injury and his game time and training, will need careful management.  Quansah may have picked up a knock but I can see him training a bit with the firsts this season, assuming Davies and Phillips are sold and Sepp gets another loan. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104817 on: July 10, 2022, 10:27:50 am »
Disappointing that Quansah isn’t on tour.  Shouldn’t be due to rest, as Chambers who was also at the u19 Euros made it.  That maybe reflects that Robby and Greek Scouser are fairly late arrivals.  Quansah’s pedigree was confirmed in his selection in the team of the Euros

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104818 on: July 10, 2022, 04:03:59 pm »
Disappointing that Quansah isn’t on tour.  Shouldn’t be due to rest, as Chambers who was also at the u19 Euros made it.  That maybe reflects that Robby and Greek Scouser are fairly late arrivals.  Quansah’s pedigree was confirmed in his selection in the team of the Euros

It is but Phillips, VDB and Williams are all ahead of him. If one had got a loan move sorted he would have gone.

Maybe, he will get to go to Austria

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104819 on: July 10, 2022, 04:47:07 pm »
Why somehow? He is impressing on loan if he keeps progressing he will get a loan o a top division and hopefu9we can make some money on him.

I guess i just don't like loans where the player couldn't even find his way to the bogs at Anfield.4 years a bunch of lower level clubs,nope not for me.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104820 on: July 10, 2022, 05:05:08 pm »
Disappointing that Quansah isn’t on tour.  Shouldn’t be due to rest, as Chambers who was also at the u19 Euros made it.  That maybe reflects that Robby and Greek Scouser are fairly late arrivals.  Quansah’s pedigree was confirmed in his selection in the team of the Euros

Quansah played a lot more minutes than Chambers didn’t he?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104821 on: July 11, 2022, 09:14:38 am »
Klopp on Tyler Morton:

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104822 on: July 11, 2022, 09:33:47 am »
Klopp on Tyler Morton:

makes sense that klopps likes the no 6 to be a bit of a taller and physical unit

or he is just bigging the player up for a loan. who the fuck knows.

he does look to be a bit too good for the reserves and not developed enough for the 1st team. a neither here nor there player at the moment.




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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104823 on: July 11, 2022, 01:26:24 pm »
Beck has now officially gone to Familicao on loan. They've done well in the top flight since being promoted a few years ago it seems. If he can be the first choice there it'll be a really good loan move IMO.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104824 on: July 11, 2022, 01:36:34 pm »
Morton IS an 8 and I think that is the point Juergen is making there. Injuries/Covid forced him into an unfamiliar role in that Spurs game but he’s not a 6. Nice that he’s now able to show what he can do in his true position. I agree that he’s already proven himself to be a cut above reserves football. A loan could be to his benefit but that probably partly depends on whether Ox stays?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104826 on: July 12, 2022, 07:05:51 pm »
Any info on the 2 trialists?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104827 on: July 12, 2022, 08:51:24 pm »
Still doesn't seem right seeing pics of Spearing playing for them,
glad for him he gets to come back obviously

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104828 on: July 12, 2022, 08:53:50 pm »
Morton IS an 8 and I think that is the point Juergen is making there. Injuries/Covid forced him into an unfamiliar role in that Spurs game but he’s not a 6. Nice that he’s now able to show what he can do in his true position. I agree that he’s already proven himself to be a cut above reserves football. A loan could be to his benefit but that probably partly depends on whether Ox stays?

He played there in the League Cup and CL last season.

Spurs was just too big a game and in a completely changed midfield.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104829 on: July 12, 2022, 11:54:16 pm »
Tom Clayton to Swindon on a permanent transfer.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104830 on: July 13, 2022, 10:31:55 am »
U21 preseason game Vs Wigan on lfctvgo https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1546904998474354688?t=HmA7Q22T5UJ-06-l9QXMOA&s=19

didnt do any better compared to the seniors

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104831 on: July 14, 2022, 07:59:01 am »
Pitaluga got Man of the Match in their defeat of West Brom.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104832 on: July 14, 2022, 10:28:35 am »
Really liked the look of Mabaya, looks incredible physically for a 17 year old.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104833 on: July 14, 2022, 10:34:35 am »
Really liked the look of Mabaya, looks incredible physically for a 17 year old.

Yeah other than the mistake, which happens, he's a really good prospect. Thought Balagizi was the same but hopefully he kicks on with his loan

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104834 on: July 14, 2022, 03:29:44 pm »
Do any of the youth players look like they could have a future as a no.6 /backup/successor to Fabinho/Hendo? We seem to have a lot of no.8 and 10's coming through.

How have Layton Stewart and Glazer been doing the past season ?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104835 on: July 14, 2022, 03:45:33 pm »
Do any of the youth players look like they could have a future as a no.6 /backup/successor to Fabinho/Hendo? We seem to have a lot of no.8 and 10's coming through.

How have Layton Stewart and Glazer been doing the past season ?
Many are high on Bajcetic but he is a good 2-3 years away. Which could line up well if he does make it

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104836 on: July 14, 2022, 04:22:18 pm »
Quote from: smurfinaus link=topic=204689.msg18419129#msg18419129 datelackong =1657808984
Do any of the youth players look like they could have a future as a no.6 /backup/successor to Fabinho/Hendo? We seem to have a lot of no.8 and 10's coming through.

The 6's we produce tend to be players without much physical stature. Spearing for example or Jordan Rossiter who was a big prospect before injuries curtailed him. Clarkson and Morton now, though both likely to end up further forward.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104837 on: July 14, 2022, 04:31:05 pm »
similar to morton. klopp already mentioned him playing as an 8.

really hope he can make it here. He does have that bit of ability of just having time and space on the ball. maybe its physicality and defensive parts that might need some work.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104838 on: July 15, 2022, 12:06:11 am »
Do any of the youth players look like they could have a future as a no.6 /backup/successor to Fabinho/Hendo? We seem to have a lot of no.8 and 10's coming through.

How have Layton Stewart and Glazer been doing the past season ?

Ones being getting big divvies

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104839 on: July 15, 2022, 06:56:53 am »
Many are high on Bajcetic but he is a good 2-3 years away. Which could line up well if he does make it
Which lines up well with Fabinho Age and Henderson contract/age. I expect Henderson to be at liverpool till he retires but 2024 or 2025 season could be a good spot where somebody can over take him as backup 6.