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Bit of an assumption there in the first place.

Not like you to miss irony Rossi.

(I think that's the second time you've failed me in this thread. And this wasn't even on April 1st)
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by Fromola on Today at 11:47:24 am »
Salah is obviously a club legend. He was disrespectful to Klopp yesterday but I can get that emotions are high when our season is capitulating so I can forgive that. However, if you are thinking with your head and not your heart, it's time to move Salah on this summer, get some money while we still can and build for the future with Slot.

You fear it'll go sour with Mo if he stays. Nor would we want to lose him for nothing next year and the ship has sailed on giving him a new contract. Like with Gerrard he won't want to accept reduced wages or role despite turning 34 when his contract is up next year.

More likely to make colder decisions on contracts than we have previously. We've let too many run them down and go for nothing.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Last post by Eeyore on Today at 11:47:07 am »
He's missed a small handful of games through injury , unlike De Bruyne and Jota who have missed weeks and weeks. So why isn't he getting the minutes? His performances haven't made him first name on the team sheet, a third of the games he's been involved in, he's been on the bench. Look at the key players in our squad, if they're available they start. Isn't that worth consideration when assessing how good he is?

Regardless, with the games he's played and the chances he's missed he could easily be up to 20 if he had some finesse about him.

Jota has also started a third of his games on the bench though. A large part of that was also when we only had 4 frontline strikers.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by JackWard33 on Today at 11:46:39 am »
The nuance is he's also contributed zilch in 2024, as we went from chasing all trophies to falling off a cliff. Not all his fault of course, but he's been an enormous disappointment. Acting the dick yesterday comes in the context of that. The combination of things is what has some of "us people" being happy with the idea of him leaving.

What do you want to see happen?

Me - nothing. I don't want to see anything happen but I wasn't banging out posts on this all last night then carrying on at 8 in the morning today so I'm trying to understand where you and others are coming from because a lot of us don't get it. 

So is 'acting the dick' the reason you want him to leave?

I just want to be clear before having the argument because there are posts in this thread that seem to state that his behavior yesterday should see him kicked out the club?
It's not clear to me - because I don't share the opinion - if he'd scored 6 goals in his last 5 games but still 'acted the dick' if people would still want him kicked out the club?
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The point is that Nunez has far more to his game. Jota is portrayed as a master finisher. Darwin is portrayed as someone who can't hit a barn door.

Remarkably Jota is at 183 minutes per goal in the Premier League. Nunez is at 184.7 minutes per goal in the Premier League.

Jota is at 613.82 minutes per assist in the Premier League. Nunez is at 335.82 minutes per assist in the Premier League.

Maybe. (I'm a Jota man myself).

But I am more interested in the way you use the same statistics to argue diametrically opposite points on different days. I've long admired your ability to do this and was just tickled you were doing it just now.  ;D
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Think it was this thread (jumping about a lot) that spoke of Ferguson, Wenger and Klopp and the power they wielded by the end of their time at their respective clubs. But they didn’t start off with that much control. That came about by the success they gave and gradually took on more and more responsibility. When Ferguson and Wenger left (different circumstances as Wenger had already dropped off a bit) you could tell it would be difficult to replace such strong personalities and a drop off felt inevitable.

From the outside, people will be expecting ring the same thing with us once Klopp leaves. As said above, I think changing the structure does probably take some pressure of Slot, while also making him more replaceable if things don’t go well.

If everything goes as well as Edwards and co hope then we have an impressive young coach, a decent squad with room for improvement and can probably hold our own on the mind of level we’re at now. Obviously there’s potential for things to drop off a level too. Everything is a bit uncertain.

The only club who are geared to chopping and changing manager/head coach and not having a drop off have been Chelsea. Although their last few years have been fairly barren. But they could previously change a coach and not seemingly have a proof of rebuilding. For the clubs who have had an all powerful manager it’s not been that easy. It’s a double edged sword. When they’re that successful, why wouldn’t you give them more control. But that just seems to make the drop when they leave more daunting.

That’s a lot of waffle really to say, let’s see what happens. :D I think I’m generally quite pragmatic. While I always hope for the best I think it’s fair to say Klopp had us over achieving and a failure to keep doing so shouldn’t really pinned on any new manager unless he’s a twat like Hodgson. But at the same time a new man, new ideas, hopefully backed with some new signings, that all feels potentially exciting too.

That’s a very thoughtful and astute post Nick, and I concur. I too am pragmatic about the future, recognising like you that Klopp’s over-achievement was something to cherish given the huge advantages City in particular had (how many left backs was Pep able to buy over a 7 year period?).
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Last post by Eeyore on Today at 11:43:23 am »
Maybe. But this guy made a very good point the other day......


The point is that Nunez has far more to his game. Jota is portrayed as a master finisher. Darwin is portrayed as someone who can't hit a barn door.

Remarkably Jota is at 183 minutes per goal in the Premier League. Nunez is at 184.7 minutes per goal in the Premier League.

Jota is at 613.82 minutes per assist in the Premier League. Nunez is at 335.82 minutes per assist in the Premier League.
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Isn't this a pretty normal set up at many clubs, just not used a lot here?

Could be wrong but i'm pretty sure loads of clubs in other countries use this model and the coach still does all the usual press and interviews.

They do but on the continent it’s pretty common for the sporting directors to talk to the media. Head coach should obviously be the ones doing the press conferences and main interviews around the match but would be good for Hughes to be more visible.
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That's fine. But as I say it weakens your credibility when you make sweeping statements without looking at the evidence.

I'm talking about the match report as you well know and I'm talking about the Manchester Guardians match report as you well know.

And if you've ever read a single post of mine on here, you'd know (And do know) that I jibbted MOTD years ago. It's a load of shite. Has been for more than a decade.
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That's fine. But as I say it weakens your credibility when you make sweeping statements without looking at the evidence.
Bit of an assumption there in the first place.
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