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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #160 on: April 14, 2024, 05:08:55 am »
Lineup's apparently leaked, same as against United with Ali in goal. Grain of salt.
If true, who the fuck is leaking the teams?!
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #161 on: April 14, 2024, 05:17:02 am »
If true, who the fuck is leaking the teams?!
Leaks are nearly always from a player
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #162 on: April 14, 2024, 05:19:32 am »
Leaks are nearly always from a player
If so, find him, line him up, and every other player take a turn of kicking him in the nuts. That's absurd...
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #163 on: April 14, 2024, 06:25:54 am »
Lineup's apparently leaked, same as against United with Ali in goal. Grain of salt.

It isn't normally leaked this early so I doubt it's true.

If it is the same line up that we started against utd (with the exception of Alisson), I have to say I'll be slightly disappointed despite that team being more than good enough on paper. For me Endo needs to warm the bench today. I thought he was really poor in the last game and I've been singing his praises. I also wouldn't start Szoboszlai either. He's not been in good form for a while. He needs to offer more than just his pressing and energy.

Kelleher
Bradley
Konate
Van Dijk
Robertson
Mac Allister
Elliott
Jones
Salah
Nunez
Diaz

My only question mark is whether to start Jones or Gravenberch but I went with the former in the end. He was dilly- dallying on the ball a bit too much again on Thursday, however, to be fair to him, he's still getting up to match speed.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #164 on: April 14, 2024, 07:51:40 am »
People will lose their heads if that’s the side but we actually played well versus United bar the finishing.

That’s bound to improve and you would imagine we will score a lucky goal at some stage.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #165 on: April 14, 2024, 08:39:12 am »
People will lose their heads if that’s the side but we actually played well versus United bar the finishing.

That’s bound to improve and you would imagine we will score a lucky goal at some stage.

I'd take that line up. Ali will be a big boost when he's back, although he could be rusty if we compound it with one of our customary dodgy start. Thursday seemed a game too far for Kelleher although he was left with far too much to do and still made good saves.

Konate will needs his minutes managing, although I think we've played him in the wrong games since the break.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #166 on: April 14, 2024, 08:45:22 am »
If we do lose today, we can all relax and enjoy the games til the end of the season with nothing riding on them.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #167 on: April 14, 2024, 08:52:01 am »
Lose and the league is over. That goes for arsenal and 115 aswell, though looking at 115's remaining games, they arent losing any of those in a title run in.

A loss for us or Arsenal and City are champions.

City are winning all of their games.

Arsenal will drop points.

We, sadly, will probably drop points again unless we quickly get our shit together starting today.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #168 on: April 14, 2024, 08:52:14 am »
I'd take that line up. Ali will be a big boost when he's back, although he could be rusty if we compound it with one of our customary dodgy start. Thursday seemed a game too far for Kelleher although he was left with far too much to do and still made good saves.

Konate will needs his minutes managing, although I think we've played him in the wrong games since the break.

Konate was really poor Thursday and against Sheffield United.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #169 on: April 14, 2024, 08:53:18 am »
City are winning out. It's what they do.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #170 on: April 14, 2024, 08:54:02 am »
We should be playing players based on merit. I’m not a fan of that leaked side (if true).

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #171 on: April 14, 2024, 08:57:27 am »
A loss for us or Arsenal and City are champions.

City are winning all of their games.

Arsenal will drop points.

We, sadly, will probably drop points again unless we quickly get our shit together starting today.

We'll get fucked by PGMOL again today. Can see it coming a mile off.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #172 on: April 14, 2024, 09:03:52 am »
We should be playing players based on merit. I’m not a fan of that leaked side (if true).

If it's the line from the Manu game;

Front 3
Diaz, Nunez, Salah - Who are you dropping from that?

Midfield 3
Mac, Endo, Dom - Argument for dropping Endo or Dom but for whom? Jones is rusty, Gravenberch is way off the pace, and Elliott currently is better off the bench

Back 5
Kelleher, Robertson, Bradley, VVD, Quansah - Who are you dropping? Robertson and Bradley for width. The leak says Allison is in. Konate has struggled in his last two starts.


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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #173 on: April 14, 2024, 09:03:54 am »
Looks like Alisson is definitely starting according to one of the fellas that gets the team right

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #174 on: April 14, 2024, 09:04:56 am »
City are winning out. It's what they do.

They haven't won out since 18/19 tbf, although they haven't really needed to other than 21/22.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #175 on: April 14, 2024, 09:06:12 am »
They haven't won out since 18/19 tbf, although they haven't really needed to other than 21/22.

Last season, they would have won those last two games if they needed to. The title was over at that point.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #176 on: April 14, 2024, 09:12:55 am »
Good to have Ali back.

Hopefully Jota and Trent get good minutes off the bench.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #177 on: April 14, 2024, 09:14:06 am »
Last season, they would have won those last two games if they needed to. The title was on at that point.

They might have, they might not. They were two tricky games on paper against teams they’ve found it tougher against than most. Point is…they didn’t. And they didn’t in 21/22. They last did in 18/19, when we were both better teams than we are now.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #178 on: April 14, 2024, 09:16:14 am »
Last season, they would have won those last two games if they needed to. The title was on at that point.

They may well have, but there's no way of knowing. They didn't beat West Ham at the same stage in 21/22 when they theoretically needed to.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #179 on: April 14, 2024, 09:20:16 am »
If it's the line from the Manu game;

Front 3
Diaz, Nunez, Salah - Who are you dropping from that?

Midfield 3
Mac, Endo, Dom - Argument for dropping Endo or Dom but for whom? Jones is rusty, Gravenberch is way off the pace, and Elliott currently is better off the bench

Back 5
Kelleher, Robertson, Bradley, VVD, Quansah - Who are you dropping? Robertson and Bradley for width. The leak says Allison is in. Konate has struggled in his last two starts.
Endo shouldn’t be starting. I’d drop Mac Allister deeper and play Elliot in the midfield if Jones isn’t ready.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #180 on: April 14, 2024, 09:30:50 am »
Im finding myself unnaturally irked by the use of the phrase ‘winning out’.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #181 on: April 14, 2024, 09:31:48 am »
Very American sounding isn't it

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #182 on: April 14, 2024, 09:33:18 am »
Im finding myself unnaturally irked by the use of the phrase ‘winning out’.

I don't think it is unnatural. It's a very irksome phrase.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #183 on: April 14, 2024, 09:34:10 am »
Is it fair to now say Klopp sees Quansah as first choice over Konate? Or is it still about managing Konate's fitness

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #184 on: April 14, 2024, 09:36:07 am »
I can’t be arsed to find it but I’m visualising that USA ‘I believe that we will win’ guy with the microphone bellowing it at me.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #185 on: April 14, 2024, 09:37:43 am »
Im finding myself unnaturally irked by the use of the phrase ‘winning out’.

Could be worse, I haven't heard anyone saying we'll "run the table" yet.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #186 on: April 14, 2024, 09:39:09 am »
Could be worse, I haven't heard anyone saying we'll "run the table" yet.

20 more sleeps till we win out and run the table.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #187 on: April 14, 2024, 09:41:10 am »
Im finding myself unnaturally irked by the use of the phrase ‘winning out’.
Id never heard of that phrase until the last few weeks.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #188 on: April 14, 2024, 09:44:06 am »
Im finding myself unnaturally irked by the use of the phrase ‘winning out’.

Especially when said team hasn’t ’won out’ for five years

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #189 on: April 14, 2024, 09:44:57 am »
Id never heard of that phrase until the last few weeks.

It’s an incredibly useful time saver instead of using the laborious, long winded term ‘winning all their games’.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #190 on: April 14, 2024, 09:46:32 am »
If the leaked team is true, why are we playing Konate in lesser games but keeping him on the bench for the really important ones? Yes, he was awful against Atalanta. But then Quansah also gifted United a goal last week.

He's our best CB after Van Dijk and it's absolutely bonkers the way we've bee using him.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #191 on: April 14, 2024, 09:59:12 am »
Id never heard of that phrase until the last few weeks.

I've never heard it til today.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #192 on: April 14, 2024, 10:01:16 am »
Id never heard of that phrase until the last few weeks.

Reminds me of when Roma got a couple of late goals to make it 5-2 and I heard about 50 people use the phrase "it keeps us honest" the next day. Never heard it before or since.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #193 on: April 14, 2024, 10:01:42 am »
Palace have not been the same team since losing Roy. High chance of a cricket score this game …
You're all too fucking serious, the lot of you. Relax, we don't really matter.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #194 on: April 14, 2024, 10:03:00 am »
Everyone, be it supporters, coaches or players know whats at stake here.

Lets make today the end of a bad run, and the start of a fantastic finish till the very end.

Any supporter going to the ground today should give their all and make it a hell of an atmosphere. The players need us to be the 12th man, and now is the time to give our all for the final sprint.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #195 on: April 14, 2024, 10:03:38 am »
Olise back gives Palace a big boost, we can't be a shitshow in transitions again. United twice, Atalanta and even Sheffield United seemed to have free reign all game on the counter.

They've not got much otherwise. Eze hot and cold, Whrton's a good player.

A no frills 2-0 would be great but we don't do them, or a scrappy 1-0, so it'll be a case of put our chances away and hope they don't.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #196 on: April 14, 2024, 10:04:51 am »
Didn't realise Manc Kavanagh was the Ref and Jet set Abu Dhabi Oliver on VAR.

So that's Tierney, Coote, Taylor and Kavanagh in our last 4 games.

So we shouldn't be getting any of them again in the last 6 games now right, seeing as they are 27 Refs in the PL.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #197 on: April 14, 2024, 10:05:58 am »
Palace have not been the same team since losing Roy. High chance of a cricket score this game …

True, they have lost some defensive solidity.
On the other hand they are more proactive and will attack effectively if given a chance.
So for whatever odds you put on us scoring a lot, there are roughly equal odds on them sucker-punching us quickly a few times.

Nothing about this game will be easy or straight-forward.
Well, certainly not if we maintain our horrible combo of being wasteful in attack and leaky at the back.

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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #198 on: April 14, 2024, 10:07:32 am »
Reminds me of when Roma got a couple of late goals to make it 5-2 and I heard about 50 people use the phrase "it keeps us honest" the next day. Never heard it before or since.
That’s a very often used phrase in running circles etc; training your hard sessions with another runner ‘keeps you honest,’ you stick to the times and don’t abuse the rest periods etc.

Today needs to be a hard reset, with the rest of the season just seen as cup final after cup final. If it were any other club I’d advocate throwing the Atalanta away leg, but we can’t and we should not do that. Big confidence boosting win today please reds. Palace have looked shaky under Glasner so far and not figured out his system’s requirements yet. They will be dogged to break down though.
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Re: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace 14/4/2024 14:00
« Reply #199 on: April 14, 2024, 10:08:36 am »
Is it fair to now say Klopp sees Quansah as first choice over Konate? Or is it still about managing Konate's fitness

Konate can't start two games in a week. Ideally, he wouldn't have been injured vs SU and started the Manu but now he is in the midweek rotation.