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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #560 on: April 9, 2012, 09:44:16 pm »
To a degree I can easily understand the disenchantment with Hollywood pics these days. Its alot more about flashy cgi based stuff to make the crowd go oooooooooh and aaaaaaah, rather than decent storylines. But I still enjoyed the marvel comic films, the transformers films and the newer batman films because of the nostalgia associated with them from my childhood.

I will say that Prometheus is THE  most eagerly anticipated film to be released this year for me. The one thing I loved about the original Alien and Aliens films is that there's NO cgi in them. There is animatronics and real-life models instead and YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE. Even if they don't move brilliantly you can see that they are IN THE ROOM with the actors making them more realistic so to speak. I hope that the majority of the special fx in this installment are in the same vein. The odd flashy computer hologram screen is ok but when it comes to xenomorphs and facehuggers etc i hope its back to the good old days of animatronics.

I will still say that the eighties and early to mid nineties were the golden age of modern cinema. There have been some one off amazing films over the years in recent times but not with the regularity that it happened in the earlier days.

P.S I really enjoyed Batman Begins as it gave a new dynamic to the Batman franchise other than geeky fanboy stuff. I LOVED the first Batman with Jack and Michael, but after that they became either too Burton-esqe (Batman Returns was too odd for a Batman setting) or too gimicky a la Joel Schumacher turning them into bright lighted versions of the shit TV programme. The Batman films I think did need a bit of a reboot. I think adding a bit of realism into the films has added to them rather than keeping them in comic land where ANYTHING can happen.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #561 on: April 10, 2012, 12:31:54 am »
Nah I'm saying they don't make 'em like that anymore. It's all hollywood by numbers now and it's rubbish. Actually though I don't know why I said they are treating the audience with contempt because for some reason today's audience lap most of hollywood's shit up so perhaps they are just getting what they deserve. It's incredible how lazy cinema-goers have become, seemingly happy to pay for whatever rubbish has been served up and mass marketed correctly that week ad nauseum. The fact that Avatar is the highest grossing film of all time is a damning indictment on modern audiences. We're at a point where a film like The Artist having some success is seen as a triumph but in truth a large percentage of it's audience had to be "told" to go and see it.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #562 on: April 10, 2012, 01:07:21 am »
Nah I'm saying they don't make 'em like that anymore. It's all hollywood by numbers now and it's rubbish. Actually though I don't know why I said they are treating the audience with contempt because for some reason today's audience lap most of hollywood's shit up so perhaps they are just getting what they deserve. It's incredible how lazy cinema-goers have become, seemingly happy to pay for whatever rubbish has been served up and mass marketed correctly that week ad nauseum. The fact that Avatar is the highest grossing film of all time is a damning indictment on modern audiences. We're at a point where a film like The Artist having some success is seen as a triumph but in truth a large percentage of it's audience had to be "told" to go and see it.

yeah I'd go along with that.
it drives me crazy when they spend so much money on a movie, then not bother writing a decent script or plot.
Avatar is a perfect example, it's just insulting to audiences.
I'm really hoping Prometheus is going to be good as I'm a sci-fi fiend, but I suspect I'm going to be left feeling a little underwhelmed again, no matter how good the visuals are.
hopefully with the success of The Hunger Games, movie makers will be more encouraged to make movies that can be a success at the box office and still have a decent plot and interesting characters.
I was underwhelmed by the Dark Knight too and I like Bale usually (Harsh Times and The Machinist were both great I thought, and Batman Begins was pretty decent).
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #563 on: April 10, 2012, 10:37:32 am »
I just don't get the Batman love fest at all. Totally and utterly bemused by it in fact. I thought Batman Begins was ok but strayed too much and as for The Dark Knight, I don't know if it was the hype or what but the reaction to it was so overwhelmingly positive that my expectations were rightly high. When I eventually sat down and watched it, at the end me and the missus just looked at each other as if to say "is that it?". One of the biggest cases of meh I've ever felt. And I pretty much detest the entirety of Peter Jackson's output. Should have been banned from film making after King Kong to be honest. In fact scratch that, it doesn't go far enough, after King Kong Peter Jackson should have been waterboarded...live on televison...for a year. I hate everything about Avatar. Bourne films? Awful shite.

I realise I'll be burned at the stake shortly for these views.  :D

Yeah Batman overall is fairly average. Like you, just don't get the adoration. There's been one or two half decent films. The rest has been guff.

Sick and tired of all the superhero shite now. It's been done to death. But no doubt there will be another 200 Superhero films on their way to restomp their own ground, get rebooted and do it all again.. and again.. and again..

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #564 on: April 10, 2012, 10:56:13 am »
Comic books would disagree with you there haha. Unless you're a big fan of the character I can see why superhero films get tiring because it is essentially the same sort of stuff. But each to their own.

Personally loved the new Batman films because they took it out from the comic style that Tim Burton did very well with, it's Nolan's own trilogy and I'm glad he went in a different direction with them.
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« Reply #565 on: April 10, 2012, 12:39:41 pm »
Spoke to Ridley Scott this morning, saw 20 mins of footage (amazing) and took part in a Q and A. Charlize Theron has very long legs and Ridley is a funny bastard!

I won't spoiler one thing I saw but I think its been mentioned before online.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #566 on: April 10, 2012, 12:54:43 pm »
Spoke to Ridley Scott this morning, saw 20 mins of footage (amazing) and took part in a Q and A. Charlize Theron has very long legs and Ridley is a funny bastard!

I won't spoiler one thing I saw but I think its been mentioned before online.

What's he like to talk to? Comes across as dead passionate and although a perfectionist he comes across as someone with a sense of humour who can enjoy a laugh
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #567 on: April 10, 2012, 03:24:09 pm »
What's he like to talk to? Comes across as dead passionate and although a perfectionist he comes across as someone with a sense of humour who can enjoy a laugh

He was a laugh. It wasn't quite a full on press conference, but he answered on some of the key questions. He comes across as very passionate but also he doesn't take any shit; in fact he had a pop at the American ratings system. He was amusing on 3D and on the certificate issue. And cool guy, I directed a question at Rapace and Fassbender and Ridley stepped in to give me my answer, which is mildly spoilerific so I don't know what I am going to do with it yet.

Film looks amazing and looks like has been designed beautifully for the 3D - something which is easy if you know how, says Ridley Scott!
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #568 on: April 10, 2012, 03:36:39 pm »
He was a laugh. It wasn't quite a full on press conference, but he answered on some of the key questions. He comes across as very passionate but also he doesn't take any shit; in fact he had a pop at the American ratings system. He was amusing on 3D and on the certificate issue. And cool guy, I directed a question at Rapace and Fassbender and Ridley stepped in to give me my answer, which is mildly spoilerific so I don't know what I am going to do with it yet.

Film looks amazing and looks like has been designed beautifully for the 3D - something which is easy if you know how, says Ridley Scott!


Please don't post any real spoilers mate.

Looking forward to this a lot and if the key things are given away then I think it'll massively take the shine off..


One question though please - do you know if it's two seperate releases? ie) A Kiddy 15 and an 18?
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #569 on: April 10, 2012, 03:43:24 pm »
Did he mention future projects ?

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« Reply #570 on: April 10, 2012, 03:45:23 pm »
Does anybody know about the potential running time of this?
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #571 on: April 10, 2012, 04:11:57 pm »
I liked Alien when I first saw it, and Aliens, but was never that big a fan of the franchise. I think I mentioned earlier in the thread that all the best bits were parodied or common knowledge in the playground as a kid so a lot of the best stuff was ruined for me. Yet despite all that, I'm more excited for this film than any other in what might actually turn out to be the best summer in forever.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #572 on: April 10, 2012, 05:06:21 pm »

Please don't post any real spoilers mate.

Looking forward to this a lot and if the key things are given away then I think it'll massively take the shine off..


One question though please - do you know if it's two seperate releases? ie) A Kiddy 15 and an 18?

Hey dude, I never post spoilers, ever, don't worry.

He didn't mention what certificate, they won't know that yet; they are probably submitting to the MPAA and BBFC pretty soon for the June release.

He also didn't mention future projects.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #573 on: April 11, 2012, 02:30:03 pm »
Ok, I'm going to do some more stuff with it but for now, I've posted some material on my site based on yesterday's Prometheus footage reveal.


Warning: the last bit contains a minor spoiler which I know has been reported already on other sites. My question kind of flopped and then was rescued by Sir Ridley Scott  ;D  :


http://www.johnnymessias.com/2012/04/prometheus-to-3d-polish-your-eye-balls.html




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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #574 on: April 11, 2012, 04:33:24 pm »
Warning: the last bit contains a minor spoiler which I know has been reported already on other sites. My question kind of flopped and then was rescued by Sir Ridley Scott  ;D  :

i saw some previs of (what i think is) that stuff last year but I thought it had been cut out..... it was pretty fucked up

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #575 on: April 11, 2012, 04:40:43 pm »
i saw some previs of (what i think is) that stuff last year but I thought it had been cut out..... it was pretty fucked up

Cool, just to be clear: I have no idea of what you are actually referring to, only that 'something' is there fucking up Noomi Rapace's sleep. Which is all I need to know!
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #576 on: April 11, 2012, 04:41:27 pm »

I've banned myself from reading this thread and anything written about this film from now on to remain blissfully spoiler free when I go in and watch this flawless masterpiece of a movie for the first time.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #577 on: April 11, 2012, 07:08:11 pm »
when I go in and watch this flawless masterpiece of a movie for the first time.
So you're giving this 5 stars already? Do you work for Empire magazine?  :D

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #578 on: April 11, 2012, 10:15:01 pm »
Ok, I'm going to do some more stuff with it but for now, I've posted some material on my site based on yesterday's Prometheus footage reveal.


Warning: the last bit contains a minor spoiler which I know has been reported already on other sites. My question kind of flopped and then was rescued by Sir Ridley Scott  ;D  :


http://www.johnnymessias.com/2012/04/prometheus-to-3d-polish-your-eye-balls.html

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #579 on: April 11, 2012, 10:58:11 pm »
Did you watch the clip in 3d, lionel? Would you say it lends to the overall experience, or detracts, or neither?

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #580 on: April 12, 2012, 02:46:14 am »
So you're giving this 5 stars already? Do you work for Empire magazine?  :D
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Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #581 on: April 12, 2012, 07:17:29 am »


Briefly, its back up now with more material added.

Unlike other reports, I've not mentioned every scene we were shown.

- It was all in 3D, looks great: loads of surfaces, screens and depth. Difference from other 3D films, the design is really cool Scott style.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #582 on: April 12, 2012, 08:31:19 pm »
TBF, I know already you will hate it. I probably will, too!
Despite everything I've said in this thread I'm still cautiously optimistic. I guess I'm just trying to keep a lid on my expectations. If the film doesn't live up to the hype, it's clear that there are some on here who will be far more disappointed than me.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #583 on: April 13, 2012, 01:23:30 pm »
It was all in 3D, looks great: loads of surfaces, screens and depth. Difference from other 3D films, the design is really cool Scott style.
All sounds very promising. If Ridley Scott (at his most Ridley-Scottish) can do anything with a characteristic brilliance, it's the old stunning visuals; pure cinema, if you like. If this film has one of his eyegasmic opening sequences that makes my spine tingle, I'll be able to instantly just melt into my seat and give myself up to the ride.

There's a tiny part of the most spoilerific trailer that I almost now wish I hadn't seen, but has since had me really thinking it could be a properly classic old-school horror scene, full of beautifully creepy suspense. It involves a corridor, but I'm not going any further into it now, and I'm gona try not even thinking about it until I'm sat in the theatre.

Despite everything I've said in this thread I'm still cautiously optimistic. I guess I'm just trying to keep a lid on my expectations. If the film doesn't live up to the hype, it's clear that there are some on here who will be far more disappointed than me.
Best way of approaching it, I'd say - don't go in totally cynical, 'cause you might simply ruin an enjoyable cinematic experience for yourself and others, but likewise don't expect something that's gona rock your world to its very core. If there's anything I can't stand, it's having someone next to you scoffing at every opportunity, when you're trying to lose yourself in the world on screen.

Might even be a good move to get a bit merry (or blitzed) beforehand. ;)
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #584 on: April 16, 2012, 05:55:58 pm »
Name a film and I'll name you something that it was originally ripped off from.

The Story of the Kelly Gang.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #585 on: April 17, 2012, 10:39:28 am »
On the shortlist website is a fantastic page of alternative Prometheus posters, some absolute corkers there.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #586 on: April 17, 2012, 04:45:59 pm »
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #587 on: April 17, 2012, 05:10:16 pm »
<----that is just incredible.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #588 on: April 17, 2012, 05:14:32 pm »
The Story of the Kelly Gang.

Andy Warhol's Sleep.

Well. It was shot in 1906. So I'll give you that one. Not too many films before it :)

Sleep was just shite - so is discounted on it's crapness.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #589 on: April 17, 2012, 05:28:37 pm »
Nice Promo, that.

Don't know about anyone else, but I'd much rather have a bunch of these for each of the principal characters than that this-is-basically-what-happens-in-the-film trailer we've been assaulted with.


I can see that Weyland do manage in time to slightly reduce the general creepiness factor of their androids with successive models. Ash is more Aspergerish, at least before the rolled-up magazine incident, and Bishop is pretty sound really. I'd have a pint [of milk] with Bishop, not so much David. ;D
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #591 on: April 17, 2012, 07:34:11 pm »
Great viral video that one. It's like the boy robot David, from AI, grew up and somehow switched off that darn emotive switch.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #592 on: April 17, 2012, 07:41:59 pm »
Whooo.

Can't believe how much I'm looking forward to this film.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #593 on: April 17, 2012, 07:48:47 pm »
Well. It was shot in 1906. So I'll give you that one. Not too many films before it :)

 :lmao

That did make me lol!

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #594 on: April 17, 2012, 07:57:59 pm »
The more the hype machine cranks it up, the more my cynical side kicks in. This better be fucking top class.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #595 on: April 17, 2012, 07:58:00 pm »
Nice Promo, that.

Don't know about anyone else, but I'd much rather have a bunch of these for each of the principal characters than that this-is-basically-what-happens-in-the-film trailer we've been assaulted with.


I can see that Weyland do manage in time to slightly reduce the general creepiness factor of their androids with successive models. Ash is more Aspergerish, at least before the rolled-up magazine incident, and Bishop is pretty sound really. I'd have a pint [of milk] with Bishop, not so much David. ;D
Would you play the knife game with Bishop though?
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« Reply #596 on: April 17, 2012, 08:18:26 pm »
Argh, that bit where he cries is so creepy.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #597 on: April 18, 2012, 12:07:32 am »
Just found this pic, intrigued to know how that happens to her hands ;)

Nice nod to the Alien aswell, with the pose being the exact one that the Xeno made in the airducts.


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« Reply #598 on: April 18, 2012, 12:24:03 am »
Dun think that is legit lid ^^

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #599 on: April 18, 2012, 02:27:51 am »
The more the hype machine cranks it up, the more my cynical side kicks in. This better be fucking top class.

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