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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #240 on: April 5, 2014, 11:55:28 am »
Impatient. If he's shown promise, you stick with him for at least 3 years and see. You appointed a new man, what do you expect him to do....coolly overcome a period of poor results...? Of course he's going to take a bit of time to figure things out, to finally click on to what is necessary to arrest the slide. These things come with appointing a manager who totally lacks experience.


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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #241 on: April 5, 2014, 11:56:39 am »
All of our coaching positions are filled. In what capacity would he be able to return? Who would have to be fired for him to be  hired?

People reacting with their emotions rather than their intellect.

Our current coaching staff has us top of the league.
Ye miserable get. People have a emotional buy in with our ex-players.

The moment David Burrows and Frank McGarvey become free, we should get them on the coaching staff as well.


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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #242 on: April 5, 2014, 11:57:31 am »
Shame, but their recent form was a bit of a disaster.

Still will have a very good managerial career though.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #243 on: April 5, 2014, 11:57:32 am »
Our recent match vs Leverkusen. Sami was their manager but was in LFC kit (Carlsberg). They were hammering us and we were all, like, fair Sami, you're a true Red.

Only just realised that it was a dream....FFS!

Good luck Sami wherever the fickle tides of fate next take you...

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #244 on: April 5, 2014, 11:58:16 am »
Ye miserable get. People have a emotional buy in with our ex-players.

The moment David Burrows and Frank McGarvey become free, we should get them on the coaching staff as well.


Anyone know what Julian Dicks is doing these days?

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #245 on: April 5, 2014, 12:15:46 pm »
All of our coaching positions are filled. In what capacity would he be able to return? Who would have to be fired for him to be  hired?

People reacting with their emotions rather than their intellect.

Our current coaching staff has us top of the league.

Our defenders could still learn a thing or two from someone who has been an elite defender.

Just because we are top of the league, it doesn't means that we can't make improvements to our team.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #246 on: April 5, 2014, 12:18:47 pm »
Our defenders could still learn a thing or two from someone who has been an elite defender.

Just because we are top of the league, it doesn't means that we can't make improvements to our team.

But someone on the staff would have to be fired to accommodate him. Who would that be?

Also, United put 9 goals past them over two games. They conceded the second most goals in their group. Being a top class defender doesn't mean you can coach top class defence. Look at Tony Adams.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #247 on: April 5, 2014, 12:20:12 pm »
Our defenders could still learn a thing or two from someone who has been an elite defender.

Just because we are top of the league, it doesn't means that we can't make improvements to our team.


They'd learn more from a good coach. Doing something really well doesn't mean you have the ability to pass those skills onto someone else or even to understand how you do it yourself.

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #248 on: April 5, 2014, 12:20:15 pm »
But someone on the staff would have to be fired to accommodate him. Who would that be?

Also, United put 9 goals past them over two games. They conceded the second most goals in their group. Being a top class defender doesn't mean you can coach top class defence. Look at Tony Adams.

Why can't we just employ him without firing anyone?
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #249 on: April 5, 2014, 12:21:00 pm »
Shame it hasn't worked out after a promising start to his management career. Hopefully he'll get another chance at a good club. Would be good to see him back in England. Can't help but thinking he'd make a better go at it than the likes of Mel, Magath or Solskjaer.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #250 on: April 5, 2014, 12:21:36 pm »
Why can't we just employ him without firing anyone?
Errrrr, because we don't need him?..... Radical concept I know, but hey, thats how I role
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #251 on: April 5, 2014, 12:21:37 pm »
Why can't we just employ him without firing anyone?

To do what? And please don't say defensive coach. Our staff is complete. If it wasn't Brendan would've addressed it before now.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #252 on: April 5, 2014, 12:24:03 pm »
But someone on the staff would have to be fired to accommodate him. Who would that be?

Also, United put 9 goals past them over two games. They conceded the second most goals in their group. Being a top class defender doesn't mean you can coach top class defence. Look at Tony Adams.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #253 on: April 5, 2014, 12:24:47 pm »
Why can't we just employ him without firing anyone?

Because there will already be a defensive coach or coaches who are drawing a salary. Sami would be on a football manager's salary at Leverkusen (a million a year minimum?) not a part time coaches wage.

It's romantic nonsense. Sami wants to be a manager not a part time coach. Seems like you have no faith in his ability to do the job he actually wants to do.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #254 on: April 5, 2014, 12:25:24 pm »
Love Sami. Was looking like such a bright manager earlier on in the season. Unfortunately a few results go against you and all of a sudden you're under pressure and getting sacked the next day. Admittedly they've been on a poor run but surely Leverkusen could have stuck by him until the end of the season.

Oh well come back home Sami  :wave

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #255 on: April 5, 2014, 12:25:25 pm »
Sami got a little fortunate in the first half of the season as the team continued to play pretty much as they had done under Lewandowksi. Sadly, I think the deterioration is more a reflection on his impact on the team, than the early form.

Truth is the team is performing very poorly, and has done for a number of months. 

Hopefully Sami will get another crack somewhere else and learn from the experience, but any suggestion that he should come to Liverpool doesn't make any sense, based on his performance at Leverkusen, and is as PoP points out an emotional response. 

I'm sure he's more than welcome back as an observer, and there would be no shortage of people who would gladly have a beer with him.

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #256 on: April 5, 2014, 12:28:09 pm »
Weird decision. He's on a bad run. But he's done well this season
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #257 on: April 5, 2014, 12:30:08 pm »
All of our coaching positions are filled. In what capacity would he be able to return? Who would have to be fired for him to be  hired?

People reacting with their emotions rather than their intellect.

Our current coaching staff has us top of the league.

Welcome to RAWK. The first rule of RAWK is: you do not question "PoP". The second rule of RAWK is: you DO NOT question "PoP!

Fuck knows why, as far as I'm concerned he's just another touchy bod who posts incessantly on a forum.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #258 on: April 5, 2014, 12:32:02 pm »
Welcome to RAWK. The first rule of RAWK is: you do not question "PoP". The second rule of RAWK is: you DO NOT question "PoP!

Fuck knows why, as far as I'm concerned he's just another touchy bod who posts incessantly on a forum.

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #259 on: April 5, 2014, 12:33:47 pm »
Welcome to RAWK. The first rule of RAWK is: you do not question "PoP". The second rule of RAWK is: you DO NOT question "PoP!

Fuck knows why, as far as I'm concerned he's just another touchy bod who posts incessantly on a forum.

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It's just logic isn't it....? Fuck all to do with PoP saying it. If we wanted another defensive coach, we'd be on the lookout for a defensive coach and I dare say we'd have hired one by now. I don't think any club would just create a new coaching position because a club legend suddenly became available.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #260 on: April 5, 2014, 12:34:41 pm »
Welcome to RAWK. The first rule of RAWK is: you do not question "PoP". The second rule of RAWK is: you DO NOT question "PoP!

Fuck knows why, as far as I'm concerned he's just another touchy bod who posts incessantly on a forum.


So instead of having a dig at another poster - what's your opinion?
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #261 on: April 5, 2014, 12:38:38 pm »
Welcome to RAWK. The first rule of RAWK is: you do not question "PoP". The second rule of RAWK is: you DO NOT question "PoP!

Fuck knows why, as far as I'm concerned he's just another touchy bod who posts incessantly on a forum.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #263 on: April 5, 2014, 12:41:54 pm »
But someone on the staff would have to be fired to accommodate him. Who would that be?

Also, United put 9 goals past them over two games. They conceded the second most goals in their group. Being a top class defender doesn't mean you can coach top class defence. Look at Tony Adams.

Why does there have to be a fixed no?
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #264 on: April 5, 2014, 12:42:01 pm »
I'd love to see him manage in the Premier league

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #265 on: April 5, 2014, 12:43:03 pm »
I'm sure he'd much rather keep managing and one day eventually hope to return to us in that very role  :wave

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #266 on: April 5, 2014, 12:44:06 pm »
To be honest the writing was on the wall, losing 7-0 to a David Moyes side over 2 games Is just Embarrassing  :-X

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #267 on: April 5, 2014, 12:44:36 pm »
Why does there have to be a fixed no?

Because we don't have a limitless budget, and because his role would be redundant. We have the exact amount of coaches Rodgers wants for the way he works. The position of "Defensive Coach" doesn't exist in football, for good reason. We would have to create that position, and pay for him every day there is nothing for him to do.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #268 on: April 5, 2014, 12:45:10 pm »
To be honest the writing was on the wall, losing 7-0 to a David Moyes side over 2 games Is just Embarrassing  :-X


Even worse, it was 9-2. 4-2 at Old Trafford, 0-5 at Leverkeusen
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #269 on: April 5, 2014, 12:45:11 pm »

So instead of having a dig at another poster - what's your opinion?

He was an extraordinary player for us, both on and off the pitch.  He now has managerial experience.  Therefore I would not be completely dismissive of the idea of him coming back to us in some capacity.

If someone else has to lose their job, so be it.  Football is transient, shit happens.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #270 on: April 5, 2014, 12:46:15 pm »
To be honest the writing was on the wall, losing 7-0 to a David Moyes side over 2 games Is just Embarrassing  :-X

but but moyes is a European genius..

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #271 on: April 5, 2014, 12:46:15 pm »
I agree that he was a victim of his own success a little bit. When he started at Leverkusen they were in danger of slipping out of Europa League positions. He secured that and achieved Champions League for them next season. It's true that Leverkusen is having a bad run of form, but they are still in the Champions League places this season so I think it's a bit harsh to sack him until the season is finished at least. He never had much funds to work with either or many top class players. I hope he gets more backing in his next job.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #272 on: April 5, 2014, 12:48:44 pm »
I wish Sammi all the best. He should still come back to Anfield a few times anyway, he will always get a great reception; maybe Rodgers can use him to motivate the crowd!
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #273 on: April 5, 2014, 12:58:49 pm »
I wish Sammi all the best. He should still come back to Anfield a few times anyway, he will always get a great reception; maybe Rodgers can use him to motivate the crowd!

Like that , bring him out with a big bandage around his head just as we kick off next week that'll get the crowd going like last time

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #274 on: April 5, 2014, 12:59:34 pm »
He was an extraordinary player for us, both on and off the pitch.  He now has managerial experience.  Therefore I would not be completely dismissive of the idea of him coming back to us in some capacity.

If someone else has to lose their job, so be it.  Football is transient, shit happens.
You think we should sack a member of Brendan Rodgers coaching staff to give Sami a job?
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #275 on: April 5, 2014, 01:04:32 pm »
The guy's just been sacked. Let him mope around a bit, fuck his wife a lot, eat loads of unhealthy shit and grow a beard.


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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #276 on: April 5, 2014, 01:05:54 pm »
He was an extraordinary player for us, both on and off the pitch.  He now has managerial experience.  Therefore I would not be completely dismissive of the idea of him coming back to us in some capacity.

If someone else has to lose their job, so be it.  Football is transient, shit happens.

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #277 on: April 5, 2014, 01:11:33 pm »
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You think we should sack a member of Brendan Rodgers coaching staff to give Sami a job?

Yes, I'm mad.  Happy now that you've insulted me after I gave you a polite answer?

The fact that I can't question Mods/Regs or "knowledgeable" posters is why I very rarely post.

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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #278 on: April 5, 2014, 01:14:46 pm »
Yes, I'm mad.  Happy now that you've insulted me after I gave you a polite answer?

The fact that I can't question Mods/Regs or "knowledgeable" posters is why I very rarely post.

I'm done for today, enjoy "CHOPPER" making the same "jokes" and posting the same "funny" pictures endlessly.

Well done for being polite; the sentiment is nice, but ultimately flawed. If you feel insulted, well imagine how the (how did you put it?), sacked member of staff and his family would feel.

As you say though, shit happens.
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Re: Sami Hyypia and Leverkusen part ways.
« Reply #279 on: April 5, 2014, 01:17:23 pm »
Just post what you want to post. The substance is the substance, whoever it comes from, however it's phrased or however nicely phrased the opposing argument is. If it's accurate it will be noted.

edit: wish I had noted my spelling.



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