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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51360 on: November 14, 2018, 12:06:03 pm »
What is an Emery team?  Considering he had no say in transfers at Sevilla or PSG then I'm genuinely interested in what the thought on this is.

That seems like a backwards conclusion. Isn't it likely that at Sevilla the players targetted wre chosen because they fit the manager's blueprint.

If ever I've seen a team in Europe with a rigid and clear way of playing as a team, it's his Sevilla (and Simeone's Atletico)

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51361 on: November 16, 2018, 11:00:07 pm »
That seems like a backwards conclusion. Isn't it likely that at Sevilla the players targetted wre chosen because they fit the manager's blueprint.

If ever I've seen a team in Europe with a rigid and clear way of playing as a team, it's his Sevilla (and Simeone's Atletico)

I could be wrong but from what I've read Monchi didn't change what he did as far as buying and selling players per manager as he had 13 of them in 16 years at Sevilla.  He would have to redo his evaluations and targets basically every year if that were the case.  Emery continued the overall way Sevilla were playing from Marcelino and Michel with adjustments for the way he wanted it done, he didn't reinvent anything.  They sold their best players every year and brought in new ones with potential to then sell again, I doubt Emery had much of a say in any of it as it goes against a manager's will to build something and win.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51362 on: December 2, 2018, 04:02:38 pm »
Spurs

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51363 on: December 2, 2018, 04:05:32 pm »
When are they playing City again?

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51364 on: December 2, 2018, 04:47:14 pm »
When are they playing City again?
They are playing United next. A draw seems like a perfect result.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51365 on: December 2, 2018, 05:07:56 pm »
They are playing United next. A draw seems like a perfect result.

They'll rip United to shreds, their defence is shocking.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51366 on: December 2, 2018, 06:04:13 pm »
magnificent, that was just superb. Torreira is the signing of the season, only upstaged by Emery, top manager, great substitutions every game, Auba is top class, loving football again.

Spurs are cheating diving thugs, got put back in their box.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51367 on: December 2, 2018, 06:31:40 pm »
magnificent, that was just superb. Torreira is the signing of the season, only upstaged by Emery, top manager, great substitutions every game, Auba is top class, loving football again.

Spurs are cheating diving thugs, got put back in their box.

Do think Emery is one of the best tactical managers in the league - consistently being able to analyse why the game is going how it is and make changes really gives the team an advantage and gain momentum.  Superb team performance and yes, Torreira really knits the side together.  For me this month was always going to be key, starting with the NLD, United game at OT in three days and then Chelsea (H) and Liverpool (A) within the next 6 weeks.  I'd be happy with 7 points from that, though it really should be 9 at current form.


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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51368 on: December 2, 2018, 09:26:16 pm »
That Torreira looks ace, be surprised if one of the big clubs doesn’t come in or him in the next year or so
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51369 on: December 2, 2018, 09:31:40 pm »
Don’t want them to beat united too badly as I’d like to be the ones who put the nail in his coffin

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51370 on: December 2, 2018, 10:09:37 pm »
Two games in a row where they're defensively passable, if they keep this up then they may make it for the long haul and pip Spuds to 4th.  Guess we'll see.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51371 on: December 2, 2018, 10:16:33 pm »
I like Torreira. Would have him at Liverpool in a heartbeat. Reminds me a little of Masch.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51372 on: December 2, 2018, 10:17:36 pm »
I like Torreira. Would have him at Liverpool in a heartbeat. Reminds me a little of Masch.

Yep, cracking player. Some great young Uruguayan talent coming through the ranks but I think Arsenal have one of the diamonds,

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51373 on: December 2, 2018, 10:32:48 pm »
Yup def reminds me of Mascherano that Torreira, wouldnt mind him here. Glad Arsenal pasted Spurs.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51374 on: December 3, 2018, 05:05:40 am »
We’ve been crying out for a Torriera for years, at 22 he could be bossing midfields for years, and only cost 27m.
Now we just need to buy a defence and we could become seriously good.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51375 on: December 3, 2018, 09:23:28 am »
Joke's over. We have to take this lot seriously now.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51376 on: December 3, 2018, 11:26:34 am »
Was chuffed with the way we set about the game yesterday more than anything. Apart from a 10min spell where Spurs got their 2 goals & we sort of fell away a wee bit, i thought we bossed the game.

Old Trafford next, lets hope we get that monkey off our back & don't roll over & get our stomach tickled no matter the form of both teams. I'm still skeptical of course, yet to show we can go to our traditionally difficult away grounds & get a result.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51377 on: December 3, 2018, 11:48:26 am »
What a damning situation for Wenger. Look at the difference Emery has made to the mentality and structure of the team without even having solved all of their problems.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51378 on: December 3, 2018, 11:51:31 am »
Was chuffed with the way we set about the game yesterday more than anything. Apart from a 10min spell where Spurs got their 2 goals & we sort of fell away a wee bit, i thought we bossed the game.

Old Trafford next, lets hope we get that monkey off our back & don't roll over & get our stomach tickled no matter the form of both teams. I'm still skeptical of course, yet to show we can go to our traditionally difficult away grounds & get a result.

Just curious about what you Arsenal fans think are those. Without looking into history data, I know you don't do well at OT, what are they rest of the difficult places for Arsenal in the PL in general?

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51379 on: December 3, 2018, 12:13:44 pm »
Just curious about what you Arsenal fans think are those. Without looking into history data, I know you don't do well at OT, what are they rest of the difficult places for Arsenal in the PL in general?

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51380 on: December 3, 2018, 12:17:22 pm »
I hope The bloke who runs Arsenal TV put some of that ‘Wenger out blud’ money away 😂

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51381 on: December 3, 2018, 12:38:44 pm »
I hope The bloke who runs Arsenal TV put some of that ‘Wenger out blud’ money away 😂

The party’s over.

Arsenal tv must be gutted, What they need to do is pitch up at old Trafford in fresh disguises, plenty of material to work with there.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51382 on: December 3, 2018, 12:40:05 pm »
Just curious about what you Arsenal fans think are those. Without looking into history data, I know you don't do well at OT, what are they rest of the difficult places for Arsenal in the PL in general?

Everywhere apart from Huddersfield.
The 3 stand outs would have to be Old Trafford Anfield and Stoke.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51383 on: December 3, 2018, 12:52:55 pm »
I hope The bloke who runs Arsenal TV put some of that ‘Wenger out blud’ money away 😂

The party’s over.

For now, lets see if we get the obligatory February collapse

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51384 on: December 3, 2018, 01:20:02 pm »
Arsenal tv must be gutted, What they need to do is pitch up at old Trafford in fresh disguises, plenty of material to work with there.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51385 on: December 3, 2018, 01:38:26 pm »
You should be giving those rats a game now

Even with Moyes they beat us, it would another sign of change if we smash them like we really should.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51386 on: December 3, 2018, 01:45:35 pm »
Even with Moyes they beat us, it would another sign of change if we smash them like we really should.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51387 on: December 3, 2018, 01:53:42 pm »
To Ozil or not Ozil

That is the question 😁

I don’t think Emery does luxury players. I can see Ozil only playing home games against cannon fodder.

I’m glad we got a manager now that doesn’t put up with laziness.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51388 on: December 3, 2018, 01:53:45 pm »
To Ozil or not Ozil

That is the question 😁

Was he dropped for the derby or just not fit?

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51389 on: December 3, 2018, 01:55:52 pm »
Was he dropped for the derby or just not fit?

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51390 on: December 3, 2018, 01:56:29 pm »
I don’t think Emery does luxury players. I can see Ozil only playing home games against cannon fodder.

I’m glad we got a manager now that doesn’t put up with laziness.

Think this is his last season at your place
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51391 on: December 3, 2018, 02:00:07 pm »
Think this is his last season at your place

Manchester United will probably be in for him.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51392 on: December 3, 2018, 02:02:55 pm »
Manchester United will probably be in for him.

Lazy and money mad

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51393 on: December 3, 2018, 02:07:22 pm »
Think this is his last season at your place

Won’t be easy to shift. Which team would pay 300k a week to a luxury player whose best days are behind him.


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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51394 on: December 3, 2018, 02:23:49 pm »
Which team would pay 300k a week to a luxury player whose best days are behind him.

400k euros a week until 2021 June apparently.
Preposterous if true.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51395 on: December 3, 2018, 02:26:38 pm »
400k euros a week until 2021 June apparently.
Preposterous if true.

I’d rather keep Ramsey and move Ozil on, Ramsey is hard working and a team player, just what Emery wants, plus he’s got a lot of experience. We’ve lost a lot of experience recently.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51396 on: December 3, 2018, 02:43:51 pm »
I’d rather keep Ramsey and move Ozil on, Ramsey is hard working and a team player, just what Emery wants, plus he’s got a lot of experience. We’ve lost a lot of experience recently.

I was puzzled when Arsenal offered him a new contract early this year. And at 400k euros a week, it was so unlike Arsenal.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51397 on: December 3, 2018, 02:44:40 pm »
Everywhere apart from Huddersfield.
The 3 stand outs would have to be Old Trafford Anfield and Stoke.

I think the 'everywhere' part applied to last season Away  ;), but this season that's much better it looks like.

Yeah, OT and Anfield seem obvious, completely forgot Stoke. Anyway, you don't need to play them this season, so it looks a lot better now for you guys.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51398 on: December 3, 2018, 02:46:07 pm »
Lazy and money mad

Yep ticks the boxes

And 30 years old. Perfect for Man United.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51399 on: December 3, 2018, 02:46:15 pm »
Emery has made everyone play with passion and determination! Which was the opposite of wenger last few years.  they're deffo on course for a top 3 finish! unbeaten in 19 games!! :o
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