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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2400 on: April 24, 2021, 11:45:13 am »
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2401 on: April 24, 2021, 03:37:44 pm »
Driving back to Yorkshire yesterday morning on the M60 south of Manchester there was a green parakeet flew across Infront of me 😁

I got ambushed by a goldfinch on my bike, he barely flew over my handlebars.  ;D
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2402 on: April 24, 2021, 04:19:44 pm »
I got ambushed by a goldfinch on my bike, he barely flew over my handlebars.  ;D

Oh no 😂

When it flew out I thought it was a green woodpecker, it was only when it turned and I saw it side on I realised what it was.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2403 on: April 26, 2021, 05:19:55 pm »
Had a few new visitors to ours in the last two weeks. Greenfinches, Goldfinches, and just now, a Bullfinch, which I’ve never seen before. Surprising how there’s quite a lot of the first two about but you don’t often see them. All loving the white sunflower hearts.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2404 on: April 26, 2021, 05:32:41 pm »
Just seen a Siskin too. Thought it was another Goldfinch but had a black crown and finer bill.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2405 on: April 26, 2021, 08:07:54 pm »
Just seen a Siskin too. Thought it was another Goldfinch but had a black crown and finer bill.

The siskins are gorgeous, my sister gets loads where she is in Derbyshire.
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2406 on: April 26, 2021, 08:46:52 pm »
Our swifts are back!
Every year since we moved here they have come to nest in our roof - always a delight.
Will attempt some photos but they are hard to capture.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2407 on: April 29, 2021, 12:55:08 pm »
And we have a mallard nesting in the garden.  Thankfully she's well tucked away from the dogs finding out she's there but I'm sure if the weasels still around her eggs won't last long 😟

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2408 on: May 7, 2021, 11:40:50 am »
Do crows eat other birds? Always thought they just ate what they could scavenge but just seen one dropping something smaller onto the road, it then flew into a tree with it and looks to be plucking out all the feathers before tucking in.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2409 on: May 7, 2021, 03:06:25 pm »
We saw two blackbirds fighting off a crow in mid air the other week but later on saw the crow on the roof with what looked like a small chick - tugging at it like you see birds of prey do. Had a squirrel charging along the fence with a mouthful of something that looked a bit like a chick too.

It's a god damn jungle out there.   :(

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2410 on: May 7, 2021, 07:28:38 pm »
Do crows eat other birds?
Yep, and Magpies do mate, mostly injured or very young.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2411 on: May 7, 2021, 07:34:56 pm »
A Collard Dove must be nesting in the vicinity. Every few hours one chases a maggy all over the gaff. They're smaller than Maggies but fucking hell they're happy to have a good go :)

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2412 on: May 7, 2021, 07:38:26 pm »
Yep, and Magpies do mate, mostly injured or very young.

No wonder they are called a Murder of Crows.
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2413 on: May 7, 2021, 07:40:06 pm »
We've got moorhens nesting in the large pond over the road from our house.  I just hope the chicks survive this year.  They didn't last year.

Also on another pond at the top of the road are loads of ducklings.
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2414 on: May 7, 2021, 09:47:33 pm »
I saw a Robin feeding a chick in the garden the other day. The mass influx of Starling chicks haven't arrived as yet, but can't be far off now.

Lots of birds raiding the bird feeders and taking food off to nests nearby.

We saw a few Coot chicks with their parents in the park the other day, but I was a bit concerned for them as a large turtle was on the surface eyeing them up.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2415 on: May 13, 2021, 03:55:17 pm »
Pair of blackbirds currently hopping around our garden with their fledgling in tow. They are absolutely prolific at hunting worms. Every five hops or so they're ripping one out of the ground and feeding it to the fledgling.

The fledgling it actually fatter than its mother now which is quite something really.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2416 on: May 13, 2021, 04:36:55 pm »
I was driving through Blundellsands earlier and had to stop the car in the middle of the road because of two Blackbirds that were there and wouldn't budge.

Both males, so maybe they were squaring up and neither wanted top back down.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2417 on: May 13, 2021, 05:55:19 pm »

I swear it stopped and looked at me halfway through, but then thought 'fuck it' and carried on anyway.  :)

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2418 on: May 14, 2021, 07:57:25 am »
I am worrying about my Blackbirds, they've obviously got eggs in the nest but the local magpie is giving them a torrid time and they are just constantly upset and screaming alarm calls all hours of the day. I really dislike magpies.  :butt
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2419 on: May 14, 2021, 08:27:16 am »
I am worrying about my Blackbirds, they've obviously got eggs in the nest but the local magpie is giving them a torrid time and they are just constantly upset and screaming alarm calls all hours of the day. I really dislike magpies.  :butt

Get an air rifle, Magpie problem solved.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2420 on: May 14, 2021, 08:29:18 am »
Get an air rifle, Magpie problem solved.

Not sure I could do that.  :(
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2421 on: May 14, 2021, 08:42:19 am »
I am worrying about my Blackbirds, they've obviously got eggs in the nest but the local magpie is giving them a torrid time and they are just constantly upset and screaming alarm calls all hours of the day. I really dislike magpies.  :butt

It's a tough one isn't it but it's nature unfortunately. 

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2422 on: May 14, 2021, 09:25:34 am »
Pair of blackbirds currently hopping around our garden with their fledgling in tow. They are absolutely prolific at hunting worms. Every five hops or so they're ripping one out of the ground and feeding it to the fledgling.

The fledgling it actually fatter than its mother now which is quite something really.

Two fledglings in tow today!

EDIT: Three!


All three looking pretty plump. I've seen the father feeding two of them but not the third. Wonder if it's a hanger-on.
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2423 on: May 14, 2021, 09:47:27 am »
got up early earlier this week on my birthday and looked out the back doors and suddenly wham bam friggin female sparrowhawk flies in and takes out one of our juvenile blackbirds

pretty gruesome as she plucked him on the lawn right in front of me

but pretty special to see that happen too

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2424 on: May 14, 2021, 10:21:51 am »
got up early earlier this week on my birthday and looked out the back doors and suddenly wham bam friggin female sparrowhawk flies in and takes out one of our juvenile blackbirds

pretty gruesome as she plucked him on the lawn right in front of me

but pretty special to see that happen too
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2425 on: May 14, 2021, 10:33:55 am »
got up early earlier this week on my birthday and looked out the back doors and suddenly wham bam friggin female sparrowhawk flies in and takes out one of our juvenile blackbirds

pretty gruesome as she plucked him on the lawn right in front of me

but pretty special to see that happen too

It is brutal when you see it, I've seen a Sparrowhawk do the same to a wood pigeon in my garden.

The death of one baby gives life to another baby.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2426 on: May 14, 2021, 10:32:03 pm »
I am worrying about my Blackbirds, they've obviously got eggs in the nest but the local magpie is giving them a torrid time and they are just constantly upset and screaming alarm calls all hours of the day. I really dislike magpies.  :butt
Put simply, Magpies are twats Jill. Hopefully the Blackbird "shrills" (mad noise isn't it) will deter them a bit. But do your best to chase them as well.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2427 on: May 15, 2021, 08:24:21 am »
The predation of song birds by Magpies, is something that needs to be addressed nationally. The Corvid population has multiplied as they are birds of opportunity and like rats and foxes have, have prospered with human waste and the development of suburban housing. Simply put, they need culling or we'll lose the songbirds, who, are having a tough enough time of it as it is, with the catastrophic fall in the insect population due to human pesticide campaigns.

Shoot them Jill, you're doing all songbirds a massive favour.
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2428 on: May 15, 2021, 09:10:55 am »
I don't know whether they still do it but years ago the RSPB would come out and set up traps to catch them, then release them elsewhere if they were causing problems.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2429 on: May 15, 2021, 10:22:46 am »
I don't know whether they still do it but years ago the RSPB would come out and set up traps to catch them, then release them elsewhere if they were causing problems.

My uncle used to use someone who would be slightly less humane! But because they’re quite territorial I think they are quite easy to trap aren’t they (not suggesting Jill fashions her own!)?
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2430 on: May 15, 2021, 11:24:37 am »
My uncle used to use someone who would be slightly less humane! But because they’re quite territorial I think they are quite easy to trap aren’t they (not suggesting Jill fashions her own!)?

Yeah I've heard of that method and yes you're right they're easy to trap.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2431 on: May 15, 2021, 12:54:34 pm »
It is upsetting to see crows and magpies eating eggs and chicks but from my limited research the control of corvids has a minimal impact on the numbers of more 'desirable' garden species.

The largest threat to birds is probably the removal of habitat and green corridors - often as a result of unsympathetic development and changes in agricultural practices. As well as availability of insects and other food sources this can result in songbirds settling for suboptimal nesting sites which are more vulnerable to attack.

Corvids seem to have adapted more readily to environmental changes than many other species so their numbers do seem to have increased. However removing one predatory species is likely to result in the increased success of another - cats, rats, squirrels, sparrowhawks etc. so we should only fiddle about with the delicate balance where it can be supported by evidence.

The RSPB is not my favourite organisation but I think they are right when it comes to magpies and crows. In general research indicates that corvids are not adversely affecting garden bird populations and while site specific control may be justified in some cases, trapping and shooting under the general licence* on the evidence available is questionable.


*Culling under GL40 is only allowed if alternative lawful methods have been considered
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2432 on: May 15, 2021, 01:25:28 pm »
Put simply, Magpies are twats Jill. Hopefully the Blackbird "shrills" (mad noise isn't it) will deter them a bit. But do your best to chase them as well.

Believe me John, I do, I must look like a barbarian to my neighbours when I run out of the back door waving my hands about.  ;D

I'm not sure I could ever shoot any wildlife, to be honest as it's how nature is. Tooth and claw as they say. It seems a bit quieter today though, but then its been raining mostly maybe the Magpies are bit more deterred today.
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2433 on: May 16, 2021, 09:09:29 am »
It is upsetting to see crows and magpies eating eggs and chicks but from my limited research the control of corvids has a minimal impact on the numbers of more 'desirable' garden species.

The largest threat to birds is probably the removal of habitat and green corridors - often as a result of unsympathetic development and changes in agricultural practices. As well as availability of insects and other food sources this can result in songbirds settling for suboptimal nesting sites which are more vulnerable to attack.

Corvids seem to have adapted more readily to environmental changes than many other species so their numbers do seem to have increased. However removing one predatory species is likely to result in the increased success of another - cats, rats, squirrels, sparrowhawks etc. so we should only fiddle about with the delicate balance where it can be supported by evidence.

The RSPB is not my favourite organisation but I think they are right when it comes to magpies and crows. In general research indicates that corvids are not adversely affecting garden bird populations and while site specific control may be justified in some cases, trapping and shooting under the general licence* on the evidence available is questionable.


*Culling under GL40 is only allowed if alternative lawful methods have been considered
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wild-birds-licence-to-kill-or-take-for-conservation-purposes-gl40/gl40-general-licence-to-kill-or-take-certain-species-of-wild-birds-to-conserve-endangered-wild-birds-or-flora-and-fauna



The problem with that assumption, is that it looks at the situation in isolation, for me its  a - One pair, square area how much impact on songbirds, finger in the air guess.
From my house I have/had 5 nesting pairs  of Magpies that are meticulously picking away at the songbirds nests, or they once were.

The guidance allows them to be culled and directly relating to songbird protection. These guidelines are there to be adhered to and followed, of course, but if this was say a rat infestation and predation of the same with say, badgers, or foxes, we would be discussing this right now as an active campaign by DEFRA to eradicate these animals. Magpies/Corvids don't seem to have that impact.

I get the save the hedgerow campaigns and support them, however, with intensive farming being the root cause and up against big business, the Linnet, the Dunnock, The Bullfinch, sadly doesn't stand a chance.


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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2434 on: May 16, 2021, 09:15:53 am »
Believe me John, I do, I must look like a barbarian to my neighbours when I run out of the back door waving my hands about.  ;D

I'm not sure I could ever shoot any wildlife, to be honest as it's how nature is. Tooth and claw as they say. It seems a bit quieter today though, but then its been raining mostly maybe the Magpies are bit more deterred today.

I fire one of those Super Soaker water guns at the buggers.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2435 on: May 16, 2021, 10:04:59 am »
I fire one of those Super Soaker water guns at the buggers.

Strangely enough, I had an old water pistol my nephews used to play with that I've used from time to time.
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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2436 on: May 16, 2021, 12:15:02 pm »
The problem with that assumption, is that it looks at the situation in isolation, for me its  a - One pair, square area how much impact on songbirds, finger in the air guess.
From my house I have/had 5 nesting pairs  of Magpies that are meticulously picking away at the songbirds nests, or they once were.

The guidance allows them to be culled and directly relating to songbird protection. These guidelines are there to be adhered to and followed, of course, but if this was say a rat infestation and predation of the same with say, badgers, or foxes, we would be discussing this right now as an active campaign by DEFRA to eradicate these animals. Magpies/Corvids don't seem to have that impact.

I get the save the hedgerow campaigns and support them, however, with intensive farming being the root cause and up against big business, the Linnet, the Dunnock, The Bullfinch, sadly doesn't stand a chance.
I think we are largely on the same page here.

I skimmed a couple of scientific papers, a report on a meta study and a PhD thesis and while I would not claim that my search was in anyway comprehensive, the rules are based on a bit more than an assumption.  The BTO study was from 2010 but was based on 40 years of data from 200 sites (https://www.bto.org/about-bto/press-releases/are-predators-blame-songbird-declines).

The evidence on corvid pressure on overall populations of songbirds is currently weak which is why they are not considered a pest species or 'vermin' like rats. This seems to me to be a good thing as is stops the 'open season', wholesale persecution of a species without just cause.

Where there is a specific threat to birds on red and amber lists, as you say is the case on your own patch, the general licence GL40 may well apply and would permit control by prescribed means, but anyone carrying out such actions should be clear about what is allowed and how they might evidence compliance if challenged.

I raised this partly because I think there is a risk of demonising species uneccessarily (pursuing ill-conceived policies will not aid the wildlife), but also because I wouldn't want any of the bird lovers in this thread to find themselves in trouble because they assumed that killing crows and magpies is allowed in any circumstance. Chasing them out of the garden with foul language and water pistols is one thing (I have done this myself), but I think it is worth checking carefully what the law allows before considering trapping, shooting, destroying nests etc.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2437 on: May 23, 2021, 03:31:30 pm »


Managed to snap a Great Tit that was flying back and forth from it's nest in the hollow of the tree.

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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2438 on: May 27, 2021, 03:54:26 pm »
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grey heron - little egret - common tern








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Re: Bird watch
« Reply #2439 on: May 27, 2021, 04:42:54 pm »
My GT's have fledged. Its a happy moment and I'm pleased as punch. Only cost me about £12 in mealworm to help them out due to such a woeful spring and a considerable lack of insect food to provision the chicks with.
@ Veinticinco de Mayo The way you talk to other users on this forum is something you should be ashamed of as someone who is suppose to be representing the site.
Martin Kenneth Wild - Part of a family