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Agger at left back?
« on: October 3, 2008, 12:40:33 pm »
Just a thought...

With Skrtel and Carra appearing to be building a partnership for this season, and Dossena far from setting the pitch alight...is Agger at left back worth a punt?

He has a great left foot, can really play the ball out of defence and can obviously defend.

Thoughts?
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #1 on: October 3, 2008, 12:42:36 pm »
No way!
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #2 on: October 3, 2008, 12:44:38 pm »
Nonsense
Aurelio is a class act and a proper LB.
This Agger stuff has got out of hand.
People trying anything to get him in the team.
He'll get his chance soon enough, and if he's good enough he'll stay in.
Playing him out of position just to play him is laughable
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #3 on: October 3, 2008, 12:45:24 pm »
How do you know its out of position?
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #4 on: October 3, 2008, 12:46:34 pm »
How do you know its out of position?

Because he's a centreback.

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #5 on: October 3, 2008, 12:47:55 pm »
Agger left back .....on the bench.

I don't see Agger playing at left back unless in a 3 CB system and Benitez will use that system very sparingly.
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #6 on: October 3, 2008, 12:48:22 pm »
Do i think Agger could play left-back? Yes i do, as long as he has the stamina because he obviously has the passing and ability to pick his forward runs.

However he should not be put into the left-back position ahead of two natural left-backs who are fit just so that he doesn't get pissed off and leave.

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #7 on: October 3, 2008, 12:49:09 pm »
Torres at right midfield?

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #8 on: October 3, 2008, 12:49:54 pm »
How do you know its out of position?

What sort of question is that?
Are you being serious?
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #9 on: October 3, 2008, 12:54:18 pm »
Torres at right midfield?
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I was thinking Carra at centre forward, Reina in midfield, and Torres in goal. Title-winning rotation, no?
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #10 on: October 3, 2008, 12:55:36 pm »
Carra at right back and Agger in the center. If Carra doesn't like it, then bench. No point in losing a player that will be at the top of his game for another 10 years for a player that's got 12-24 months left at the top.

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #11 on: October 3, 2008, 01:02:09 pm »
If we still have him:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/liverpool/3127466/Liverpool-defender-Daniel-Agger-subject-to-Real-Madrid-January-bid-Football.html

Liverpool defender Daniel Agger subject to Real Madrid January bid

The Denmark international, 23, has 18 months to run on his existing contract at Anfield and has made just two starts following his return from a long-standing foot injury which kept him out for the majority of last season.

With the La Liga champions sensing Agger's current unhappiness at Liverpool, vice-president Jose Angel Sanchez announced the Spanish club intend to revive their interest in the player as soon as the transfer window reopens for business in the New Year after blaming the protracted departure of Robinho for overshadowing a proposed move earlier this summer.

"What we need is a defender and a striker, and, at the moment, Daniel Agger is on top of our list," he said.

"We already had plans about buying Agger this summer, along with some other players, but the Robinho situation took so much attention and demanded so many resources from the club that we had to drop the plans about putting a bid in for Agger and other players that we had in mind.

"He is a world-class player and without doubt he would fit into our plans – it is likely we will bid for him in January," added Sanchez.

Having lost his starting berth in central defence to the impressive Martin Skrtel following almost a year on the sidelines due to a metatarsal problem, Agger admitted earlier this week he was not happy but determined to win back his place in the side.

"I want to stay here and fight for my place in the squad," he said.

"I'm not satisfied with the fact that I'm not playing but I have to cope and accept it.

"I'm happy at Liverpool," Agger insisted, blissfully unaware of Madrid's interest which could now alter his options to stay put on Merseyside.

The Dane has made 55 appearances for Liverpool since he joined Rafael Benitez side from Brondby in January 2006 for £5.8 million.
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #12 on: October 3, 2008, 01:03:47 pm »
We got to play 15000 games this season he'll get his chance at CB.
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #13 on: October 3, 2008, 01:05:10 pm »
Just a thought...

With Skrtel and Carra appearing to be building a partnership for this season, and Dossena far from setting the pitch alight...is Agger at left back worth a punt?

He has a great left foot, can really play the ball out of defence and can obviously defend.

Thoughts?

Or Skrtel at right back ?
Picture that man charging down the wing - would you stand in front of him ?

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #14 on: October 3, 2008, 01:09:07 pm »
Carra at right back and Agger in the center. If Carra doesn't like it, then bench. No point in losing a player that will be at the top of his game for another 10 years for a player that's got 12-24 months left at the top.

and the fact that the team is doing well with it's current central pairing? Does that mean Agger is more important than the team?
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #15 on: October 3, 2008, 01:09:20 pm »
Or Skrtel at right back ?
Picture that man charging down the wing - would you stand in front of him ?

if you look at the way skrtel plays he aint going to be charging up and down the wing

hes more of a "sit back" defender but to be honest we got a sneak peak last year of carra at right back and to be honest that boy can play anywere

so why not ?

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #16 on: October 3, 2008, 01:09:36 pm »
Carra at right back and Agger in the center. If Carra doesn't like it, then bench. No point in losing a player that will be at the top of his game for another 10 years for a player that's got 12-24 months left at the top.

Again, this is nonsense.
We have perfectly good right backs and left-backs without playing a centre-half there.
Danny will get his chance sooner or later.
Until then he has to keep his counsel, work hard and prove that when he gets his chance he intends to keep it.
Nothing else.
These attempts to alter a really strong defence to play the lad are crap
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #17 on: October 3, 2008, 01:11:42 pm »
if you look at the way skrtel plays he aint going to be charging up and down the wing

hes more of a "sit back" defender but to be honest we got a sneak peak last year of carra at right back and to be honest that boy can play anywere

so why not ?

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #18 on: October 3, 2008, 01:13:12 pm »
if you look at the way skrtel plays he aint going to be charging up and down the wing

hes more of a "sit back" defender but to be honest we got a sneak peak last year of carra at right back and to be honest that boy can play anywere

so why not ?

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I dunno
We seem well balanced right now. I mean, we're unbeaten so why go looking for problems.
The way I see it - based on form right now - Carra and Skrtel are the best 2 centre backs at the club - if that changes then fair enough, give Agger his chance.
But he cant expect to walk straight back in aftet nearly a year out.
And lets be fair, I dont think he is. He seems a level headed fella and knows he will have to fight to get his place back.

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #19 on: October 3, 2008, 01:14:06 pm »
I dont see why he couldnt play left back? decent pace, passing, shooting, not to sure on his crossing but defensively he's definetely capable.
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #20 on: October 3, 2008, 01:15:51 pm »
Because Arbeloa has probably been our best player so far this season?

on what evidence i rate agger more highly than arbeloa dont get more wrong arbeloa has been good but would he be playing week in week out if he wasnt spanish?

just a thought

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #21 on: October 3, 2008, 01:16:28 pm »
I dont see why he couldnt play left back? decent pace, passing, shooting, not to sure on his crossing but defensively he's definetely capable.

No-one is saying he couldn't.
But we have 2 international proper left-backs.
So why bother?

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #22 on: October 3, 2008, 01:16:42 pm »
Because Arbeloa has probably been our best player so far this season?

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #23 on: October 3, 2008, 01:17:08 pm »
on what evidence i rate agger more highly than arbeloa dont get more wrong arbeloa has been good but would he be playing week in week out if he wasnt spanish?

just a thought

Because he's a proper full-back???

Maybe...just maybe that's it
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #24 on: October 3, 2008, 01:17:15 pm »
hes not a left back

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #25 on: October 3, 2008, 01:18:56 pm »
on what evidence i rate agger more highly than arbeloa dont get more wrong arbeloa has been good but would he be playing week in week out if he wasnt spanish?

just a thought

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #26 on: October 3, 2008, 01:19:32 pm »
Hahahahahaha - it's like an instant post-Istanbul fan detector. 

Older fans may remember how Carragher at right back and to a lesser extent left back was a real weak link in our Houllier era teams.  Defensively solid but dreadfully limited going forwards.

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #27 on: October 3, 2008, 01:21:46 pm »
Because he's a proper full-back???

Maybe...just maybe that's it

there is no such thing as proper full back

when we got kuyt,babel they were "proper strikers"
so now they play on the wing are they fake wingers

as i have said arbeloa has been good and im not dishing the guy i was just suggesting a formation that would fit agger in the current squad.

players who can adapt are a asset to the club and sooner or later agger is going to get bored
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #28 on: October 3, 2008, 01:21:48 pm »
Think it's worth a look in a game that's not that important - eg league cup.

Agger's got the qualities of a top left back (pace, good on ball, defensively strong, goals) but whether he can learn the differences between the game there and the game at centre back quickly is debatable.

Dossena and Aurelio are both decent, but a little inconsistent.


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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #29 on: October 3, 2008, 01:23:03 pm »
there is no such thing s a proper full back

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as i have said arbeloa has been good and im not dishing they guy

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #30 on: October 3, 2008, 01:24:23 pm »
Why not?

In the time I've been watching Liverpool we've

Moved Alec Lindsay, an inside forward, to left back and I'm pretty sure he went on to play for England in that position
Moved Ray Kennedy from playing up front to midfield, where he became one of the greatest talents in Europe.
Moved Tommy Smith back into defence from his original inside forward position.
Moved Peter Cormack from his original strikers role to midfield, where he became one of the most influential players in our history.
Moved Phil Thompson from midfield to the centre of defence.
Moved Jamie Carragher from midfield to full back and central defence
Moved Steven Gerrard to just about any and every position on the pitch as the need has arrisen - but I remember a lot of his early games at right back.

I think Aggers good enough and versatile enough to be considered for more than just central defence - but then it's all about opinions

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #31 on: October 3, 2008, 01:25:27 pm »
there is no such thing s a proper full back

when we got kuyt,babel they were "proper strikers"
so now they play on the wing are they fake wingers

as i have said arbeloa has been good and im not dishing they guy i was just suggesting a formation that would fit agger in the current squad.

players who can adapt are a asset to the club and sooner or later agger is going to get bored

That statement is total bollocks.
Our defence is rock solid at the minute, with players playing in their proper positions.
To tinker with that without good reason would be stupid.

FFS last year Rafa was getting stick for changing things...now he's getting stick for not doing so.
It's bollocks.
Daniel Agger is a centre-back...end of story.
Not a full-back, not a defensive midfielder, not a wing-back.
He plays in one position.
That's where he'll get his chance...barring a massive injury crisis

PS. Arbeloa is playing RIGHT-BACK...not left
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #32 on: October 3, 2008, 01:25:46 pm »
I guess, maybe try it during carling or F.A cup? Good thinking though!
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #33 on: October 3, 2008, 01:25:51 pm »
there is no such thing as proper full back

when we got kuyt,babel they were "proper strikers"
so now they play on the wing are they fake wingers

as i have said arbeloa has been good and im not dishing the guy i was just suggesting a formation that would fit agger in the current squad.

players who can adapt are a asset to the club and sooner or later agger is going to get bored

Yes, they are fake wingers.  Riera is a winger, Pennant is a winger. Kuyt and Babel are not. In fairness they are playing in a position that I see as more akin to inside right and inside left rather than on the wing, so the fact that they aren't wingers isn't really an issue.
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #34 on: October 3, 2008, 01:34:14 pm »
That statement is total bollocks.
Our defence is rock solid at the minute, with players playing in their proper positions.
To tinker with that without good reason would be stupid.

FFS last year Rafa was getting stick for changing things...now he's getting stick for not doing so.
It's bollocks.
Daniel Agger is a centre-back...end of story.
Not a full-back, not a defensive midfielder, not a wing-back.
He plays in one position.
That's where he'll get his chance...barring a massive injury crisis

PS. Arbeloa is playing RIGHT-BACK...not left

the topic is agger at left back i get that

but my point was if we was to get agger in defence at all the only player i could rafa sacrificing would be arbeloa

and for the record we can keep our defence the same for the rest of the reason i was just suggesting how we could fit agger in our squad

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #35 on: October 3, 2008, 01:36:52 pm »
I think Aggers good enough and versatile enough to be considered for more than just central defence - but then it's all about opinions

He's too languid (wrong word - laid back) to play at full back. He's not a slow player, but he hasn't got real pace. Full backs should be up and down alot, mainly down and overlapping, but back and forth. The great thing about Agger in the middle is his occassional wander up field. Why curtail that offensive option? I don't see Danny getting in behind and spearing balls into the box too often. In a 3? Yes, in a four? Not for me. If desperate, I'm sure he'd do a job, but as an idea it's bizarre.

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #36 on: October 3, 2008, 01:44:16 pm »
Let's go back to 1966.  Do you play your 11 best players or your best team.  Usually, some where in between and depending on your team.  Else we may as well argue that Gerrard is the best right back in the world (probably would be) and play him there to accommodate mash and Alonso in midfield and torres, riera, kuyt and keane up front.  Never saw Arsenal play both keepers at the same time either (3 seasons back), even though they were two of the best players at the club IMO.
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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #37 on: October 3, 2008, 01:47:12 pm »
Why even contemplate it when we have Dossena, Aurelio, and Insua all vying for left back?

Christ. He is one our 3 main centerbacks.

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Re: Agger at left back?
« Reply #38 on: October 3, 2008, 01:48:46 pm »
no but i am starting to get worried that he aint playing and could go somewhere else.....
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« Reply #39 on: October 3, 2008, 01:49:02 pm »
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