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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12280 on: January 16, 2022, 05:00:36 am »


I had to do a double take there. I thought Ronald Koeman had actually signed some Steve Carell look-alike with an earlier Messi haircut, for Barcelona. How the mighty have fallen.


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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12281 on: January 18, 2022, 05:28:16 pm »
Scored an absolute belter today
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12282 on: January 18, 2022, 05:47:52 pm »
He's been the player of the tournament.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12283 on: January 18, 2022, 05:55:48 pm »
Scored an absolute belter today
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12284 on: January 18, 2022, 05:58:32 pm »
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12285 on: January 18, 2022, 05:59:33 pm »
That’s what we want!

And defenders not bothering of course ;D
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12286 on: January 18, 2022, 10:47:32 pm »
Nice hit but I dont think the defenders could have made that any easier for him. Like watching a game from the 90s.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12287 on: January 19, 2022, 01:49:16 am »
Booked in the last minute so is suspended for the next game apparently, may have played his last game.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12288 on: January 19, 2022, 01:52:25 am »
Booked in the last minute so is suspended for the next game apparently, may have played his last game.

Really? I shouldn't laugh but....that means he will be rested when he returns.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12289 on: January 19, 2022, 02:10:03 am »
Booked in the last minute so is suspended for the next game apparently, may have played his last game.

Aah, Naby lad. He'll be gutted though if that happens. I hope they get through to the next round so he can play again. 3 captains at the AFCON makes me dead proud. We're the best fucking club in the world. Full stop.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12290 on: January 19, 2022, 02:31:59 am »
Nice hit but I dont think the defenders could have made that any easier for him. Like watching a game from the 90s.
Or like watching him play against Man Utd?

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12291 on: January 19, 2022, 09:33:39 am »
Booked in the last minute so is suspended for the next game apparently, may have played his last game.

I’ll never understand the cumulative bookings rule in major tournaments - it’s a punishment out of proportion to the crime and robs the tournament of first choice players

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12292 on: January 19, 2022, 09:40:12 am »
Seems like a very stupid time to get yourself booked.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12293 on: January 19, 2022, 10:35:03 am »
Booked in the last minute so is suspended for the next game apparently, may have played his last game.

Let's hope so. Sooner our lads are back the better. To hell with international competition. Especially during the football season.  ;D
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12294 on: January 19, 2022, 11:26:34 am »
Thats a cracker. Fair play Naby, fair play...
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12295 on: January 24, 2022, 05:57:45 pm »
Guinea got knocked out. Keita heading home. The suspension was really costly for him.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12296 on: January 24, 2022, 06:01:08 pm »
Sorry for the result, and welcome home, Naby lad.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12297 on: January 24, 2022, 06:23:55 pm »
Great news - can’t wait to see him back … on our bench .. staring out at whoever’s been picked ahead of him that week before being praised in a press conference ;)

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12298 on: January 24, 2022, 06:47:47 pm »
Great news - can’t wait to see him back … on our bench .. staring out at whoever’s been picked ahead of him that week before being praised in a press conference ;)


Even if it is on the bench it makes our options stronger.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12299 on: January 24, 2022, 06:57:56 pm »
One back, two to go!

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12300 on: January 24, 2022, 08:00:13 pm »
He'll be gutted, Naby. Devestated. He'll need picking up. The boss will sort that.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12301 on: January 24, 2022, 08:18:50 pm »
Looks like he was in good form in the Afcon. I've got a bad feeling tho that when his plane lands here, he'll have a mishap in the baggage reclaim hall - his jacket'll get snagged on an unclaimed suitcase and he'll ride the conveyor belt back through the flaps and then accidentally get loaded onto a cargo plane headed for Antarctica. It's just our luck with Naby!

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12302 on: January 24, 2022, 08:23:32 pm »
Looks like he was in good form in the Afcon. I've got a bad feeling tho that when his plane lands here, he'll have a mishap in the baggage reclaim hall - his jacket'll get snagged on an unclaimed suitcase and he'll ride the conveyor belt back through the flaps and then accidentally get loaded onto a cargo plane headed for Antarctica. It's just our luck with Naby!

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12303 on: January 24, 2022, 08:33:31 pm »
He put in very good performances.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12304 on: January 24, 2022, 08:36:41 pm »
Looks like he was in good form in the Afcon. I've got a bad feeling tho that when his plane lands here, he'll have a mishap in the baggage reclaim hall - his jacket'll get snagged on an unclaimed suitcase and he'll ride the conveyor belt back through the flaps and then accidentally get loaded onto a cargo plane headed for Antarctica. It's just our luck with Naby!

Haha! Poor Naby is our very own Father Larry Duff.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12305 on: January 24, 2022, 08:42:37 pm »
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12306 on: January 24, 2022, 09:34:01 pm »
Haha! Poor Naby is our very own Father Larry Duff.

He's got a pack of Rottweilers? :o

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12307 on: January 24, 2022, 09:35:56 pm »
Looks like he was in good form in the Afcon. I've got a bad feeling tho that when his plane lands here, he'll have a mishap in the baggage reclaim hall - his jacket'll get snagged on an unclaimed suitcase and he'll ride the conveyor belt back through the flaps and then accidentally get loaded onto a cargo plane headed for Antarctica. It's just our luck with Naby!
well that's just silly isn't it.

he'll trip and go head-first down the steps of the plane, breaking all 4 limbs.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12308 on: January 24, 2022, 10:44:00 pm »
A real contrast to the last AFCON where he was played despite not being fit and seemed to take an age to recover.  It sounds like he'll be coming back with a bit of match sharpness and raring to get going again.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12309 on: January 24, 2022, 11:33:33 pm »
A real contrast to the last AFCON where he was played despite not being fit and seemed to take an age to recover.  It sounds like he'll be coming back with a bit of match sharpness and raring to get going again.

I just hope we get to see a Naby, Fab & Thiago midfield. Intrigued to see how it would operate with three gifted but totally different types of player.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12310 on: January 24, 2022, 11:45:45 pm »
I just hope we get to see a Naby, Fab & Thiago midfield. Intrigued to see how it would operate with three gifted but totally different types of player.

seems like it would be awesome - but a bit slow.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12311 on: January 25, 2022, 12:01:16 am »
Naby won't be upset about getting knocked out. Liverpool have won max points and have progressed in both cups. That's the only pick-up he needs.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12312 on: January 25, 2022, 12:29:14 am »
I just hope we get to see a Naby, Fab & Thiago midfield. Intrigued to see how it would operate with three gifted but totally different types of player.
They also fit role wises together very well and would likely be best skill set fit together.

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« Reply #12313 on: January 25, 2022, 06:46:37 am »
I just hope we get to see a Naby, Fab & Thiago midfield. Intrigued to see how it would operate with three gifted but totally different types of player.

Only way you ever see this midfield is Henderson is injured. Simple fact is Klopp values Henderson energy and leadership over someone more skilled it seems.

We all know thats probably our best midfield technician wise and football smarts though.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12314 on: January 25, 2022, 07:55:53 am »
Only way you ever see this midfield is Henderson is injured. Simple fact is Klopp values Henderson energy and leadership over someone more skilled it seems.

We all know thats probably our best midfield technician wise and football smarts though.

Leadership shouldn't be underestimated especially away from home. That said, surely Klopp recognises Henderson isn't covering the right flank as well as he used to.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12315 on: January 25, 2022, 11:11:39 am »
Guinea out of AFCON, Naby will be returning back to the UK in the coming days.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12316 on: January 25, 2022, 11:43:07 am »
Only way you ever see this midfield is Henderson is injured and if Naby is not injured. Simple fact is Klopp values Henderson energy and leadership over someone more skilled it seems.

We all know thats probably our best midfield technician wise and football smarts though.

Corrected for you.

Not intended to slate the guy (I was one of the most excited fans when he was initially linked with us, I was a big fan of him at Leipzig), but that's the reality of where we are. He needs to be more available and for all of Hendo's drop in form, it's not as if Naby can stake a claim regularly because he's secure defensively and would help us hold on to leads. Naby has equally struggled in certain games defensively, if not worse, so he needs to improve there if he wants to be Hendo's successor and stay as one beyond the summer. Jones is looking more probable to stake a claim than him, at the moment. His contract situation is not looking good as well, so will we be bringing a midfielder/or two in, in the summer, is another thing to ponder.

On the ball (if that's what you mean by technique) Naby is superior, yes, but not sure what you mean by 'football smarts'. If that's game intelligence, then I disagree, Hendo has seen through far bigger games and situations with great success than Naby has so far. If that's not game intelligence, what is?

For Klopp, tactical balance is important and we have some fantastic players on the ball already (our CBs, both full-backs, Thiago, maybe even Fabinho and of course front three - whichever combo plays), and our full-backs and front three create a lot of chances, so our CMs do not need to be extraordinarily creative on the ball. That's been the recurring theme of Klopp's Liverpool, regardless of what people may clamour for or fail to acknowledge.

Plus, Hendo's passing ability is extremely under-rated here, and in a lot of places elsewhere as well. Maybe, he should've been Hendinho for people to appreciate him better.

Anyway, it's good to have Naby back and among the options.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12317 on: January 25, 2022, 12:17:58 pm »


Plus, Hendo's passing ability is extremely under-rated here, and in a lot of places elsewhere as well. Maybe, he should've been Hendinho for people to appreciate him better.



It feels like his passing ability is properly rated to me.
He's a decent passer from deep - nothing earth shattering but good ... and as his career has progressed his judgment of when to recycle possession and when to pass progressively has become generally excellent when not pressed and playing the 6 (I think he's an excellent 6 fwiw)

The issue is that he's not a good final 3rd passer (or ball carrier) and never has been. You don't really ever want him to be your most advanced midfielder.
A couple of years ago his ability to press high helped compensate for this but that's pretty clearly dropped off this season and he now gets bypassed far too much - whether that's age or carrying knocks or being over played its hard to know but its an issue.

As for the overall balance of the side and the role of the midfield I don't think your post takes account of how we've set up this season 
Until we had injuries this season we were playing with a pretty clearly advanced midfielder that was suited to the role, distinctly different from the 19/20 season  - we used Elliot, Keita and Chamberlain to do the job until we didn't have any of them available (or played AOC in the front 3) then Henderson started playing their regularly but he's really not the player you want in that role.

Its hard to know what our best midfield 3 is because it depends on the fixture and because we've seen so much change but its a fair shout that its Fabinho/Thiago + an advanced midfielder and pick your preference between Keita Elliott and Jones

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12318 on: January 25, 2022, 12:20:48 pm »
It feels like his passing ability is properly rated to me.
He's a decent passer from deep - nothing earth shattering but good ... and as his career has progressed his judgment of when to recycle possession and when to pass progressively has become generally excellent when not pressed and playing the 6 (I think he's an excellent 6 fwiw)

The issue is that he's not a good final 3rd passer (or ball carrier) and never has been.

Plenty of examples in this clip of final 3rd passes that are top draw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su-BPWCyutU
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #12319 on: January 25, 2022, 12:34:26 pm »
Plenty of examples in this clip of final 3rd passes that are top draw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su-BPWCyutU

Yes. Thanks. There are lots of clips of Mignolet making saves too.

(before someone jumps in - he's a better final 3rd passer than Mginolet was at saving things...you get the point)
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