Topic: Football facts that don’t seem real

[A weatherfield winter wonderland]

Yes we did. Do you remember the FA Cup fiasco ?

I remember there being two replays before they eventually one. Was there a postponement in there as well?

[darragh85]

Liverpool 7 Manchester United 0

[kesey]

I remember there being two replays before they eventually one. Was there a postponement in there as well?

They didn't turn up at Anfield for the replay because of the snow. Kenny was fuming. When it eventually got played we draw 0 - 0 then they beat us down there.

[Santas robbed me shorts]

Probably a Premier League stat from 1992 onwards rather than a since records began type. Vaguely remember that Gillespie winner, we always hated that plastic pitch didn’t we?!

It was like playing footy with a bouncy ball

[kesey]

Kenny had every right to be fuming. I didn't know that Luton refused a neutral venue if the replay was a draw. The FA decided on a coin toss to see in the invent of another replay whether it would be held at Anfield or Luton. Luton won the toss . The toss was done before the game so Luton put 10 men behind the ball and we drew 0 - 0.

http://that1980ssportsblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/1986-87-fa-cup-third-round.html

[Always in a pub barney on christmas eve]

Unless Iam misreading the question we won there in 87/88 with a Gary Gillespie header.

Going to bump this one up as these are quite amusing.

Liverpool hold the record for most different premier league stadiums won at, having won at least once at 59 of the 61 grounds at which they've played.

Everton have the most premier league defeats 448 in total.

[Red_Mist]

Everton have the most premier league defeats 448 in total.

I’d argue that fact seems very real/believable.

[kesey]

Just speaking about the Luton fiasco with me mate. He says that Kenny said something like this in hos interview ' How dare they not turn up , we've cleaned the snow off the pitch and bought the pies and everything ''.

    

[Sprouts of Spion]

I’d argue that fact seems very real/believable.

Definitely. If there's one club that's spent seemingly endless years losing at the bottom end of the PL but not getting relegated, it's them. Other clubs have gone down, but they've survived by the skin of their teeth, allowing them to keep losing in the top flight and claim that glorious record.

[Red_Mist]

Definitely. If there's one club that's spent seemingly endless years losing at the bottom end of the PL but not getting relegated, it's them. Other clubs have gone down, but they've survived by the skin of their teeth, allowing them to keep losing in the top flight and claim that glorious record.

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Still good that it was posted though. It’s a fun fact!

[Sprouts of Spion]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Still good that it was posted though. It’s a fun fact!

It's a great fact. 

[Four Colly Birds]

I read a fact that if you changed the outcome of 4 of klopp’s games in charge, we would of had an extra 2 league champions and a another champions league

Talk about fine margins

[Statto Red]

It's a great fact. 

Which is why i posted it, it's always fun taking the piss out of the bitters.

Also in premier league history
Most draws: 341, Everton
Most goals conceded in total: 1,589, Everton
Most own goals scored in total: 62, Everton
Most red cards in total: 107, Everton

 

[BoRed]

I read a fact that if you changed the outcome of 4 of klopp’s games in charge, we would of had an extra 2 league champions and a another champions league

Talk about fine margins

Two extra CLs as well, to be precise.

[Sprouts of Spion]

Which is why i posted it, it's always fun taking the piss out of the bitters.

Also in premier league history
Most draws: 341, Everton
Most goals conceded in total: 1,589, Everton
Most own goals scored in total: 62, Everton
Most red cards in total: 107, Everton

 

Bloody hell. 

[Speedy Molby]

Take your pick from these two:

LFC home league defeats by three goals or more since 1970: 3*
MUFC home league defeats by three goals or more since Oct 2023: 4

or

LFC home league defeats by three goals or more  since 1970: 3
LFC wins at MUFC by three goals or more in league since 1970: 6

* This is from memory, thinking it’s Chelsea 2005, West Ham 2015 and City 2021 (behind closed doors). I may have forgotten one or two.

[Sprouts of Spion]

Take your pick from these two: ...

I can't choose, so will bask in the glory of both stats. 

[Hark the Howard Angels Sing]

Which is why i posted it, it's always fun taking the piss out of the bitters.

Also in premier league history
Most draws: 341, Everton
Most goals conceded in total: 1,589, Everton
Most own goals scored in total: 62, Everton
Most red cards in total: 107, Everton

 

And the crème de La crème?

Obviously Sandy Brown 6th December 1969.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sy6JLTYUgg

[Santas robbed me shorts]

I can't choose, so will bask in the glory of both stats. 

I still love the fact that since he signed for us, Mo has had more yellow cards for taking his shirt off at Anfield after scoring against the Mancs than they have scored at Anfield.

[FiSh77]

I remember there being two replays before they eventually one. Was there a postponement in there as well?

Was the night Kenny played a joke on Alan Irvine

He was the victim of one of the most cruel practical jokes ever committed at Liverpool. When Liverpool's FA Cup game against Luton was called off Irvine wasn't told the news. He climbed on the team bus in his best suit ready for matchday, not noticing others were in tracksuits. 'He thinks that the game is on,' Hansen said to Dalglish. Kenny called for Irvine to come to his seat. 'We've got some injuries. How would you like playing centre-back?' 'I'm not sure, gaffer,' Irvine replied. 'Would you more comfortable in midfield?,' Kenny asked, to which Irvine said 'Yes.' 'Just don't tell anybody you're playing,' were his final instructions. Poor Irvine hadn't still made his debut. The players were let in on the joke and took their seat in the dressing room at Anfield as if the game was on. They were told by Kenny to sort their match tickets out, knowing that would leave Alan alone in the dressing room with him as he was the only one without a ticket. Alan was left waiting in the dressing room for some considerable time until Kenny finally said: 'The game's off,' to which poor Alan could only mutter: 'I know.'

Pretty sure when Jan Molby was on about it at a sportsman's dinner he said they let him lead the side out for the warm up, all stood there in the tunnel pissing themselves as he ran out into an empty Anfield

[kesey]

Fuckin 'ell I've  just remembered this.

Ian Callaghan and Tommy Smith have SIX , yes SIX England caps between them .

Beam us up Scotty it's crackers down here.

[Terrys chocolate orange]

Fuckin 'ell I've  just remembered this.

Ian Callaghan and Tommy Smith have SIX , yes SIX England caps between them .

Beam us up Scotty it's crackers down here.

Jimmy Case had none.

[Ray K]

Fuckin 'ell I've  just remembered this.

Ian Callaghan and Tommy Smith have SIX , yes SIX England caps between them .

Beam us up Scotty it's crackers down here.

Cally made his debut in a friendly a week before the '66 world cup, played Vs France in the group stage and won a medal,  and didn't play for England for another 11 years after that

[Bobinhood]

Manchester City have won the prem 4 in a row and 7 of 8 and never cheated even once a little and won all the lawsuits too because they are as pure as the driven snow.

[Red Eyed]

Manchester City have won the prem 4 in a row and 7 of 8 and never cheated even once a little and won all the lawsuits too because they are as pure as the driven snow.

And they say the unfair rules are there to stop clubs not in the 'red cartel' from winning anything.

But they say they didn't break the rules.

[Brian Blessed]

I remember that. I swear he did it on purpose.

It def Italy seemed like it at the time, as the press were (unsurprisingly) giving him shit for always changing the team. The new “tinkerman”.

[peelyon]

Falkirk have paid a world record transfer fee.

Looking at good ole Wikipedia - Liverpool have only broken the transfer record once.  Anyone want to guess who it was?

[A weatherfield winter wonderland]

Looking at good ole Wikipedia - Liverpool have only broken the transfer record once.  Anyone want to guess who it was?

Stan Collymore? £8.5m I think.

Think that was a British record? Unless you meant world record? Although fairly sure Peter Beardsley was a record too?

Edit - sorry, you clearly said World record! I guess it would have been one from the 60s or even earlier?

[Statto Red]

Kenny had every right to be fuming. I didn't know that Luton refused a neutral venue if the replay was a draw. The FA decided on a coin toss to see in the invent of another replay whether it would be held at Anfield or Luton. Luton won the toss . The toss was done before the game so Luton put 10 men behind the ball and we drew 0 - 0.

http://that1980ssportsblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/1986-87-fa-cup-third-round.html

I hated Luton in that era, they had a chairman, David Evans, who was a complete c*nt [& racist too] he was a Thatcherite Tory MP. After the Millwall riot, Luton introduced a membership scheme which effectively banned away fans, then installed that plastic pitch [Astroturf], that pitch was completely different from a standard grass pitch [although most grass pitches in those days were mud baths, sort of resembling the Somme, come November], it was like playing football on concrete, the ball bounced like a rubber ball, keepers had to wear tracky bottoms so they didn't get skin burns when making a dives & you had to be careful when making sliding tackles. Preston, Oldham & QPR were the others that had the plastic pitch too.

[Always in a pub barney on christmas eve]

Stan Collymore? £8.5m I think.

Think that was a British record? Unless you meant world record? Although fairly sure Peter Beardsley was a record too?

Edit - sorry, you clearly said World record! I guess it would have been one from the 60s or even earlier?

I know we've broken the world record for players by position (Alisson, van Dijk), but didn't think we've ever paid a world record overall.

[Terrys chocolate orange]

Looking at good ole Wikipedia - Liverpool have only broken the transfer record once.  Anyone want to guess who it was?

Philippe Coutinho to Barcelona?

[Always in a pub barney on christmas eve]

Philippe Coutinho to Barcelona?

Neymar to PSG was before that and for about £50m more.

Not sure which page Peelyon is looking at on Wiki, but the one I'm looking at here now doesn't have us involved in any world record fees whether buying or selling.

[Only Me]

Jimmy Case had none.

Which is a travesty, no doubt.

However, it did give Jimmy the opportunity to deliver to that cockney gobshite Kenny Sansom one of the greatest put downs ever.

A real mic drop moment.

Every cloud…

[Santas robbed me shorts]

Was Kenny at £440,000 just a British record or a World?

[Always in a pub barney on christmas eve]

Was Kenny at £440,000 just a British record or a World?

Based on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progression_of_the_British_football_transfer_fee_record#Record_progression it would've been a British record, breaking the fee paid by Everton for Bob Latchford.

The world record at the time was £1.75m paid by Juventus for Paolo Rossi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers#Historical_progression

[BoRed]

Was Kenny at £440,000 just a British record or a World?

Pretty sure Kenny cost us less than we got for Keegan, so it wouldn't have been a world record.

[Santas robbed me shorts]

Pretty sure Kenny cost us less than we got for Keegan, so it wouldn't have been a world record.

Yep, you're correct - Google says we got £500k for Keegan. I remember Keegan going, but the transfer fee never stuck with me.

[Ray K]

The world record at the time was £1.75m paid by Juventus for Paolo Rossi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers#Historical_progression

That would have been about 5 billion lira at the time. Those crazy Italians and their mad made-up money.

Was Kenny at £440,000 just a British record or a World?

https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/ny88bf/the_piece_of_paper_that_originally_agreed_the/?rdt=51741

Everyone knows the figure was £440,000. The story I read many moons ago was that John Smith offered £400,000 which was the max figure he would go to. Celtic directors were wavering a bit, so he and Bob had a quick chat and added an extra 10% on top to bring it up to the £440,000.

Paisley advised Smith that instead of staying for a drink with the Celtic directors that they should get out of the city before anyone found out what they just did   

[CraigR2323]

And the crème de La crème?

Obviously Sandy Brown 6th December 1969.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sy6JLTYUgg

Went to school with his son - who was a blue but now a Blackpool fan.

[kesey]

Jimmy Case had none.

That's something I never knew . So Ian Callaghan and Tommy Smith who ( off the top of my head) who went through the youth team ( 59 - 61 ) to winning the lot ( Glasgow 66 never happened ) over 18 years got six caps . The Jimmy Case one is a new one to me by the way. Case was from mid 70's to ' 81 and he won the lot and never got one cap. It's a bit crackers if you think about it. Me Da' will always go on the England World Cup winning team forever and what a gang of London based shower of twats they were.