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Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« on: September 30, 2020, 01:30:22 pm »
Nobody strikes the ball like Alexander-Arnold

You could see it against Arsenal, again. Just as you could see it last week against Chelsea. Nobody strikes the ball like our right back. Something happens when the Trent Alexander-Arnold boot hits the football. It could be a long distance pass, a shot at goal, a corner or set piece, a stab, a caress, a chip or a simple back pass to his goalie. Whichever of these it is, the execution is almost always perfect. It even sounds perfect - something that our Covid-emptied stadiums, with their astonishing acoustics, have allowed us to appreciate for the first time.

Here's my favourite Trent strike of the ball. It happened against Sheffield United last season. I believe it was in the second minute of the match and might therefore have been Trent's first touch of the ball. And therefore, because the game was played on January 2nd, it was conceivably Alexander-Arnold's first touch of the New Year. Happy New Year.   

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What's brilliant about this is everything. First of all the conception. That's to say, why did it occur to him it was possible? Or rather, why did it occur to him at all? The lad had to break practically every defensive 'rule' in the book to play this pass. Twenty years ago he would have been shot by his coach for even thinking about it. Second is the execution. Look at it. He's hitting a rising ball with the outside of his boot. This is a very difficult skill, even for professional footballers. The margin for error is tiny. Get the slightest thing wrong and the ball will seem to develop a mind of its own. On the other hand the penalty for error, in that part of the pitch and under such a heavy press, is enormous. But Trent possessed the vision, had the audacity, and trusted his technique. The result was a pass that looped in complete and utter safety yards away from any Sheffield player, behind his own centre halves and even behind the man it was aimed for (Andy Robertson) before arcing forwards into the path of the accelerating receiver, who didn't need to break stride to make the ball his own. From being boxed into a nasty corner Liverpool, within a couple of seconds, were attacking their opponents' depleted rearguard.

I've concentrated on that pass because I'm still not sure of what combination of leg movement, shift of body weight, volume of foot impact etc were necessary to supply all the ingredients that made the ball pitch and yaw like that. It's a mystery to me, which is why it remains a delightful thing to look at.

Years ago I remember the Argentine footballer Jorge Valdano describing David Beckham's free kicks in his Observer column. The ball, he said, "was freighted with privileged information" when Beckham struck it. It's one of the most felicitous phrases I've come across in football journalism because that's exactly what the skilled boot does to the ball. It imparts code which the ball - the brilliant modern type of football especially - deciphers in a really sophisticated way. I always laugh when a pundit says "these balls today move all over the place"  - as if there's a design fault, or as if gravity varies according to which football pitch is being used. "I feel sorry for goalkeepers" say these pundits, making us laugh even more. They might as well be advertising their own footballing ignorance. If the ball moves in an unpredictable way when someone like Alexander-Arnold or Roberto Carlos strikes it, it's because they want it to be unpredictable. The goalie may be surprised by the movement, but the fellow who hit it won't be. That's half the idea - perhaps more than half. Successful footballers are successful because they know a central key to the game is to put your opponent into two minds. 

Trent was at it on Monday night. Three times during the match he sent in crosses from the right that arced back more than you thought possible. One led to a goal from Robbo. One led to a goal from Diogo Jota. One led to a bust-up between the Arsenal goalie and his skipper. The bust-up is the key to at least one of the two goals. Luiz thought he saw Leno coming for the cross. Leno tried to explain why he'd suddenly pulled out. "Should I come or should I stay?" is the goalkeeper's perennial question of course. No one masters the art of goalkeeping without getting the answer right most of the time. It's a difficult decision at the best of times; it's an ordeal when the cross is supplied by Trent Alexander-Arnold. Look at Leno for the third goal. When Jota shoots he's in a sort of goalie No-Man's Land, neither advanced enough to cut down the angles or retrenched enough to give himself more time to react to the shot. And he's there because for a crucial half-second or so he thought he could come out and catch Trent's cross. I thought so too. Then the loop kicked in and the ball started to bend severely away from the goal. Leno retreated (though not far enough) and Luiz mistimed his header which was pulled out of the air by Jota and stroked home. Trent's cross had done the damage - or rather his sequence of crosses. When a player hitting the ball still appears to have come control over its movement after it's left his boot life becomes very difficult for men like Leno and Luiz. The ball becomes a kite and Alexander-Arnold is the little lad yanking on the string.

I mentioned Beckham earlier and there's no denying he was, for a time, a supreme striker of a ball. But mainly he was a supreme striker of a stationary ball, which is why the English team for a good while was organised around the solitary principle of winning a free kick for Beckham some 25 yards from the goal. The distortion to the team's overall game was obvious to everyone, it seemed, apart from David Beckham and his fan club (which unfortunately included the coach). Trent hits mean free kicks too. But unlike Beckham he does his best work when the ball is moving. And, unlike Beckham (and more like Steven Gerrard) Trent has that precious ability to tune the ball with all parts of his foot. If you know your cricket he is the Jimmy Anderson of football. In-swingers, out-swingers, balls which bite on impact with the turf, balls which appear to gather pace when they kiss the surface, balls which dip suddenly after what appears to be a leisurely flight, others, by contrast, with unfeasibly steep take-offs which travel ten or twenty yards further than they look capable of doing.

When you get a player in a team who regularly does exceptional things with the ball (Firmino is another one) it is an education to everyone else and the exceptional soon becomes normal. That's the beauty of having a team and a squad that isn't overhauled every twelve months. Everybody becomes habituated to excellence. Trent on the ball for Liverpool means "many things are possible" and teammates react accordingly. They make runs which, on the face of it, might seem stupid. Or they slow down their movement and become 'cooler' in heated areas of the pitch, knowing that the ball is doing the work. To the opposition, however, it is hell. Unlike the men in Red everything appears unpredictable and, for them, the ball moves in mysterious ways. 

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2020, 01:33:48 pm »
I loved the way he rolled the ball a little bit in front of him before whipping in that cross for Robo's goal.

He is so, so dangerous.  If you give him even a little space then you are taking an enormous risk.

I still can't quite believe how good he is.  Still loads of time for him to get even better too.

Given his starting position, he is not in shooting positions that often, but I would bloody love to see him let fly and bag a few screamers this year.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2020, 01:37:43 pm »
A generational talent. And he's ours.

He sees a few moves ahead... and has the ability to deliver.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2020, 01:44:36 pm »
Some of those first time volleyed crosses require the sort of technique that only a select few have. This boy is so special.

That volley that was deflected on to the bar was utter filth too. Neville said Leno had it covered but he didn't, it was slicing all the way to the top corner, a bit like Stevie all those years ago.

Mentioned it after the game in his own thread. His technique is nearly unparalleled. Even sometimes when he receives a throw in and has to play a first time volleyed pass to someone you're just left watching in awe. You're right about the acoustics of the empty stadiums Yorky, adds even more to it  ;D
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2020, 01:49:11 pm »
I loved the way he rolled the ball a little bit in front of him before whipping in that cross for Robo's goal.

He is so, so dangerous.  If you give him even a little space then you are taking an enormous risk.

I still can't quite believe how good he is.  Still loads of time for him to get even better too.

Given his starting position, he is not in shooting positions that often, but I would bloody love to see him let fly and bag a few screamers this year.

Just a second or two before he crossed it I was thinking how impossible it must be for the opposition. We tried to spring Mo away as a first port of a call. If he does, great. If it’s not in for him, he checks and rolls it back to Trent, one of the finest crossers of the ball we’ve seen in years.

I loved the fact he volleyed a couple of crossed first time on Monday, completely trusting his technique.

He also side footed one on the half volley which I think he may have been going for goal with that just swerved high and wide of the far lost. His variety of delivery is so good though. I think my favourite assist of his was the one he laid on for Bobby in the semi of the Club World Cup. Just the vision to see the pass and the skill to make it was something to behold.

Cheers Yorky, a lovely read!

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2020, 03:05:05 pm »
It's a bit like your writing ability Yorky. Marvellous.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2020, 04:14:58 pm »
Great read that mate.

Trent is an incredible talent, a lot of people seem to think the hype around him from our fan base is ‘he can swing in a good cross’ but there’s so much more to his game. His all round game is exceptional, his striking of the ball has me in awe on a regular basis though. Much like De Bruyne he just seems to be able to work out the exact technique and weight of pass required in next to no time. Thiago possesses this same quality which is the main thing that had me so excited by his signing. I’ve honestly lost count of the Trent passes that have left me amazed at the lads ability

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2020, 05:58:33 pm »
Is he the first ever player with a wand of a right foot?

Its a descriptive term that seems to only ever be used for left footers

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2020, 06:17:00 pm »
He certainly instinctively understands the theory involved in striking the ball, and he's so young - he could even reach Rivelino levels in time.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2020, 06:18:04 pm »
Enjoyed reading that Yorky. Not much he can’t do with that right foot. Still only 21 as well, but such a mature and level headed outlook whenever you hear him speak.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2020, 06:21:57 pm »
Whilst I love Trent and his ability to strike a ball, it's rather unfair to reduce Beckham's extraordinary passing range and all around play making skills as just a dead ball specialist. Trent is amazing but Beckham was also incredible. It's worth watching some of his YouTube highlights to see just how good he was at passing the moving ball. In a some ways Beckham has been underated over time
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2020, 06:45:02 pm »
This is the best thing I have ever read about football related to Liverpool.
Trent is one of my favourite Liverpool players, and I can appreciate the beauty to his game. Just an amazing talent who is also lucky to have a manager who has let him express himself.
He makes the game seem like Xabi did, as if every pass isn't just a means to a destination it is a poem, an expression of art. There are many ways the ball can reach the target, but the craft is in the way the ball travels.
The great thing about players like Trent, Xabi, Thiago and Gerrard to an extent is that they have a million ways to execute the same play and have great vision too, but they have a grace to their game. It is as if they are running on tune to a different clock with a rhythm only they can hear.
As his game matures even more, as Trent plays another 10,000 passes he will grow in that grace, the way Thiago has done, the way Xabi did. The great thing about Trent is that he can spot things before anyone else does. He has that Gerrard trait to spot the move 10 seconds before anyone else does.
That corner that night, was an expression of all the aforementioned. The spotting of what can be 10 seconds before it happens, the grace to hit the pass in one motion and the skill to put enough information on the ball to make the finish obvious to the Big striker.
He will move in to midfield when he matures maybe under another manager.  But, here under Klopp, he is allowed to play in a position which grants him maximum freedom to innovate.
I can't wait to keep watching Trent on this journey, as he makes those passes, those assists, those goals over the years, as he becomes a legend just like another scouser who too played at right back for a little while.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2020, 07:08:37 pm »
His variety of delivery is so good though. I think my favourite assist of his was the one he laid on for Bobby in the semi of the Club World Cup. Just the vision to see the pass and the skill to make it was something to behold.

That might be the greatest pass in the history of football (it might, alternatively, be exaggeration on my part, but I don’t care).

The way he winds up for his trademark whipped inswinger. The way the nearest defender is already jumping to head the telegraphed pass, only to see (too late!) that Trent has mugged him off with a delicate ball instead, feathered towards the near post, a point to which Bobby is now darting. The defender belatedly jerks out a leg but it’s hard to do that when you are already mid-jump for a header that will now never happen and he succeeds only in pulling off a creditable impersonation of a man having a fit in mid-air. Meanwhile the ball is destined for Firmino and the tricky reds are on their way to the final.

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2020, 07:32:48 pm »
That might be the greatest pass in the history of football (it might, alternatively, be exaggeration on my part, but I don’t care).

The way he winds up for his trademark whipped inswinger. The way the nearest defender is already jumping to head the telegraphed pass, only to see (too late!) that Trent has mugged him off with a delicate ball instead, feathered towards the near post, a point to which Bobby is now darting. The defender belatedly jerks out a leg but it’s hard to do that when you are already mid-jump for a header that will now never happen and he succeeds only in pulling off a creditable impersonation of a man having a fit in mid-air. Meanwhile the ball is destined for Firmino and the tricky reds are on their way to the final.
The best pass in football history is undoubtedly Carlos Alberto to Jairzinho though Millie did a good one a year or so ago.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2020, 08:12:33 pm »
Mentioned it after the game in his own thread. His technique is nearly unparalleled. Even sometimes when he receives a throw in and has to play a first time volleyed pass to someone you're just left watching in awe. You're right about the acoustics of the empty stadiums Yorky, adds even more to it  ;D

It's not just any first time volleyed pass. It's driving across the ball. When I try it, I often mistime just a tiny bit, and because of the nature of the technique, it veers off miles. I remember marvelling over an Alonso pass to Gerrard, that one against Fulham where Gerrard controls it with one touch before sending in a cross that Dossena headed against the bar. I loved Alonso's pass because of its perfect execution, and also because of its choice, because a sideways drive is flatter than your more common chipped pass and thus easier to control by the receiver. I loved Alonso's perfect execution of a technically difficult pass. Yet Trent is doing the same, first time, on the volley.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2020, 08:14:55 pm »
Is he the first ever player with a wand of a right foot?

Its a descriptive term that seems to only ever be used for left footers

I think it was Gullit who surmised that RB was traditionally the dumping ground for players who were the most mediocre in a team. Left footers were rarer, so they got their pick of positions. If you were right footed and any good, you were either moved centrally, or moved forward.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2020, 08:35:19 pm »
A generational talent. And he's ours.

He sees a few moves ahead... and has the ability to deliver.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2020, 08:45:30 pm »
The best pass in football history is undoubtedly Carlos Alberto to Jairzinho though Millie did a good one a year or so ago.

Technically it’s Matip to Origi in Madrid but maybe that’s a separate debate.

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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2020, 09:52:58 pm »
Lovely stuff. Keep ‘em coming Yorky.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2020, 10:55:09 pm »
That's a fantastic post Yorky, thanks

I'm also going to jump on the comparison with Beckham.  I had a view back in his day that Beckham would have been a brilliant right back (Gerrard too for that matter, but he had so much more to his game than Beckham he needed to be further forward).

I see Trent now as being the best example of what a player with that ability to deliver a cross can do from that position when the team is set up to allow it.  The thing with Trent though is the he's up another level as a footballer to Beckham, hence the fact so many are suggesting he's "too good" to stay at right back.  I personally think the way we play means leaving him there is the way to go, and I can see him adding open play goals to his repertoire. (reading back, I see the irony of me saying this the paragraph after I said Gerrard needed to play further forward - I guess it's because our current system is so different to the Benitez ones that Gerrard shone in).

What a player Trent Alexander Arnold is!

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2020, 11:34:10 pm »
A generational talent. And he's ours.

He sees a few moves ahead... and has the ability to deliver.
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He does play chess too. I wonder if that’s had an influence on how he thinks during a game.  He doesn’t just look at his next move, he’s instinctively thinking ahead.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #21 on: October 1, 2020, 12:19:43 am »
Trent takes up the same offensives positions in a lot of way as KdB.  In most occasions we also task a CM or CB to cover the space he's vacating to get into those positions and assume his defensive cover.  I wouldn't say we should look at changing anything anytime soon but I do wonder 2-3 years down the road if we could view Trent as a natural Salah replacement and you rejig the attacking positions slightly to account for that.  Next to KdB Trent has the biggest offensive output of any outfield player in the league when it comes to getting the ball into the box and creating chances.  Let Trent cook is what I say. 

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #22 on: October 1, 2020, 12:52:52 am »
That's a fantastic post Yorky, thanks

I'm also going to jump on the comparison with Beckham.  I had a view back in his day that Beckham would have been a brilliant right back (Gerrard too for that matter, but he had so much more to his game than Beckham he needed to be further forward).

I see Trent now as being the best example of what a player with that ability to deliver a cross can do from that position when the team is set up to allow it.  The thing with Trent though is the he's up another level as a footballer to Beckham, hence the fact so many are suggesting he's "too good" to stay at right back.  I personally think the way we play means leaving him there is the way to go, and I can see him adding open play goals to his repertoire. (reading back, I see the irony of me saying this the paragraph after I said Gerrard needed to play further forward - I guess it's because our current system is so different to the Benitez ones that Gerrard shone in).

What a player Trent Alexander Arnold is!

The Benitez system was a variant on the old 442, with one side having a winger and a defensive FB and the other side a wide forward and an attacking FB (or at least that was what he wanted to progress towards). Our current system is more akin to the old 235 with the outside forwards having defensive responsibilities. Jonathan Wilson might call it Reverting the Pyramid.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #23 on: October 1, 2020, 05:21:09 am »
That's a terrific opening post, thanks Yorky.

Trent is an outstanding talent, and yet to reach his ceiling, we can assume. His skills are on display just about every game, as he is integral to the way the Reds play. The clip you shared is a fine example, Yorky. My heart was in my mouth when I first saw him attempt it, as I was very scared he had mishit it. The scare last about 20 milliseconds, though, as it flashed across the pitch so beautifully, opening up a new line of attack. So my fear was replaced with a sublime sense of relief, and a thought of 'how could I have doubted you?'
One question though. To what extent has the advance in ball technology aided elite players take advantage of their skills? It is one thing to pull off a high-risk pass during training but it is quite another to back yourself during a real game. Presumably, the newer balls provide a greater degree of error management. I don't know, as I haven't kicked a ball in years!

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #24 on: October 1, 2020, 05:30:51 am »
That's a terrific opening post, thanks Yorky.

Trent is an outstanding talent, and yet to reach his ceiling, we can assume. His skills are on display just about every game, as he is integral to the way the Reds play. The clip you shared is a fine example, Yorky. My heart was in my mouth when I first saw him attempt it, as I was very scared he had mishit it. The scare last about 20 milliseconds, though, as it flashed across the pitch so beautifully, opening up a new line of attack. So my fear was replaced with a sublime sense of relief, and a thought of 'how could I have doubted you?'
One question though. To what extent has the advance in ball technology aided elite players take advantage of their skills? It is one thing to pull off a high-risk pass during training but it is quite another to back yourself during a real game. Presumably, the newer balls provide a greater degree of error management. I don't know, as I haven't kicked a ball in years!

I strongly suspect they are lighter and thus easier to propel a long distance, which allows the kicker to put more effort into controlling it and less on simply getting it to travel. In the black and white footage I've seen, only Bobby Charlton seems to have been smashing it from modern distances. Even into the 80s, what we remember as long range efforts from the edge of the box now look like routine finishes from the danger area.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #25 on: October 1, 2020, 06:58:05 am »
Brilliant read Yorky.  Great choice of pass and it's a testament to your writing and Trent's ability that when you mentioned Sheffield United I thought of that pass instantly.  As you started to describe the move I knew it, then by the time you'd delivered the remainder of the paragraph I could see in my mind his delivery in full 8K UHD!

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #26 on: October 1, 2020, 07:06:18 am »
He does play chess too. I wonder if that’s had an influence on how he thinks during a game.  He doesn’t just look at his next move, he’s instinctively thinking ahead.
Beat me to it. I was just scrolling down after seeing this thread (a Yorky piece is always "stop and make a cup/pour a glass" worthy) and was already thinking about the chess playing as I remembered that interview. No doubt whatsoever that it accounts for his extraordinary vision.

To have that vision married to exquisite technique though, is something else. It always irked me that most non-Liverpool following media reacted with naiive incredulity after *that* corner, whereas Reds merely nodded in knowing appreciation as if to say "well that's just our Trent isn't it".

Great to see an unusually flowery Valdano quote, especially compared to the typecast "shit on a stick", but I'm also not a cricket man so don't really get the Jimmy Anderson reference. Instead TAA striking the ball reminds me of the very pinnacle of pro golfers who in their sleep can hit 100 of 100 drives perfectly straight, but always have the confidence and ability to creatively and effortlessly shape a draw or a fade around a dogleg or to get themselves out of trouble (Seve famously comes to mind here). Thing is, he also has that killer short game with a wedge, and can pepper the pin from anywhere. The bigger the stakes, the more reliable it seems.

Sometimes you have to stop and pinch yourself that this PL and CL winner is still not yet 22 years old, and yet is the most humble world class player I can recall (a trait shared with his LB sidekick/rival). And on record as wanting to stay at Anfield for his entire career. Mural-worthy indeed.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #27 on: October 1, 2020, 07:34:19 am »
Great write up Yorky!

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #28 on: October 1, 2020, 08:21:29 am »
Lovely OP Yorky ... thanks
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #29 on: October 1, 2020, 08:29:00 am »
I only signed up to this site quite recently Yorky, although I have been reading it for years and years, and been a Liverpool fan since the FA Cup Final win in 1974. I live in New Zealand which makes it tough or maybe I’m unqualified to discuss football with some of the giants on this site. You guys are incredibly knowledgeable and sharp too! RAWK is a key part of my life in so many ways. I draw sooo much from reading the posts that get written. I’ll never be at that level, but my love of Liverpool Football Club is a match for anyone’s!

Anyway Yorky, I just wanted you to know (as other correctly note) your writing is quite extraordinary. You make my day when you post something about the Reds. Thank you so much, for your brilliant pieces, your depth, and your wonderful turns of phrase. Thank you for your humanity towards the game we all love. If football is in part a huge escape from the mundane, the hurt, the pain and harsh reality of life, (which it has been for me since I was 11) your work is it’s writing equivalent! Thank you again. That ball by Trent was the work of a magician, it’s just fucking marvellous isn’t it, in the truest sense of that word. Great, great stuff from him and from you! Have a great day mate
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #30 on: October 1, 2020, 09:25:07 am »
Enjoyed reading this, thanks Yorky.

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #31 on: October 1, 2020, 10:07:21 am »
Fantastic piece yet again Yorky.

I don`t think with Trent it is an understanding as such. It's not something that really can be taught. He just has a innate ability that most players don`t have. His striking of the ball is so pure. Those cross field passes to Robbo are something to be hold. Also, he looks quite slight but by god he hits the ball with some venom.

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #32 on: October 1, 2020, 10:20:02 am »

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #33 on: October 1, 2020, 10:45:58 am »
In terms of playing a pass with information on it, his assist for a Salah goal against Bournemouth (I think). Trent sends a 40 yard ball for Salah to flick header over the stranded keeper. Most pundits were enamored with the finish but I remember one saying it was the only option. This was because Trent had simplified the decision making by the quality of the pass.

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #34 on: October 1, 2020, 11:33:08 am »
Imagine getting to read this for free. Crazy. Brilliant Yorky. Absolute word magician.

Ps: I thought his volleyed pass into Keita for the 1st goal was sublime also. Went unnoticed by a lot too (sorry if it has been mentioned here already)
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #35 on: October 1, 2020, 11:43:12 am »
Thanks for the comments people.

Carra-ton's rhapsody on Xabi hits the sweet spot for me. Whoever put more backspin on a long range pass than Alonso? ("That's overhit.....Jeez, the ball has its own brakes").

Willy mentions the modern ball. I think ball technology is wonderful and a gift to technical players (as are the modern pitches). Doc mentioned Rivelino and he must have been a special striker of the ball because those old leather panelled balls were difficult to swerve. What Rivelino would have done with the modern ball is anyone's guess.

A couple of posters have mentioned the 'volley' that Trent hit against the Blades and remarked on how difficult it is to hit a crisp pass or shot with the outside of the boot in such circumstances. But I think it's even better than that. A true volley involves hitting a falling ball usually - or at least one that arrives with a flat trajectory. That's tricky enough. But Trent's 'volley' was a rising ball. Try it. It's even harder.

WestieRed - if you started supporting the boys in '74 you'll remember Lindsay at left back. He was cut from similar cloth to Trent I think. Keegan once said he was the sweetest striker of a ball in Shankly's last team. I'm now trying not to mention the infamous disallowed goal at Wembley. It still hurts. But that was a rising ball wasn't it?

As for Trent's corner. That remains sovereign among all things the boy has done so far in his career. The execution was a fairly simple thing in that case. But the conception was glorious. And even more so was the bottle to do it once the idea had suggested itself. Pep mentioned the embrace of 'risk' yesterday when defending Neco Williams. What Trent did to Barcelona was all about the embrace of risk. It would have been so easy for him to have thought "It's on...Naaa. Too risky. I'll look a right fool if I bollocks it up." But he didn't do that. Just like the pass v Sheff United he took on the risk for a higher cause.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #36 on: October 1, 2020, 11:47:21 am »
Marvelous post, both in the writing and the observations.

I know that you're successful in your chosen field Yorky, but did you ever consider sports journalism?

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #37 on: October 1, 2020, 11:52:46 am »

WestieRed - if you started supporting the boys in '74 you'll remember Lindsay at left back. He was cut from similar cloth to Trent I think. Keegan once said he was the sweetest striker of a ball in Shankly's last team. I'm now trying not to mention the infamous disallowed goal at Wembley. It still hurts. But that was a rising ball wasn't it?

 
Lindsay was a cult hero amongst my schoolmates (well ex-school) and myself - we needed group counselling sessions after that disallowed goal.

Keegan was ectstatic to receive passes from Lindsay having been previously fed by Joey Jones. Shankly reckoned Lindsay could open a can with his left foot.
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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #38 on: October 1, 2020, 12:04:40 pm »

Keegan was ectstatic to receive passes from Lindsay having been previously fed by Joey Jones. Shankly reckoned Lindsay could open a can with his left foot.

Think it was the other way round Dr B. Joey followed Lindsay and in doing so set Keegan off to think about challenges elsewhere. Lindsay was converted to a full back from an inside forward by Shanks, so he knew instinctively how a forward wanted the ball played up to him and Keegan thrived on it as you say.

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Re: Nobody Strikes the Ball like Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #39 on: October 1, 2020, 12:07:12 pm »
As for Trent's corner. That remains sovereign among all things the boy has done so far in his career. The execution was a fairly simple thing in that case. But the conception was glorious.

Someone mentioned earlier how hard he hits the ball, and I wonder if that was the key to the success of that corner - it wasn't just the accuracy of the ball in behind the defenders to Origi but the fact it reached him so quickly. He's deceptive because he doesn't look (to me) like he's really whacking it that hard, but you can tell by the speed the ball travels off his boot - is it raw power or is there something in the kicking technique? Hard to imagine he could be so accurate as he is if it were just power. I just don't know - I admit my perception of the finer pints of technique is limited, which is why I like reading pieces like this by people who obviously do get it much better than me (and can explain it so eloquently).

My favourite moment from last season was Trent's ball to Robbo to set up Mo to score against City. When he receives the ball, you think his only option is to pass it backwards to Virg, but then he pings it across the pitch with his *left* foot, and not directly to Robbo, but perfectly into the space behind City's midfield for Robbo to run onto it and pick up the ball at speed.

Or course, Robbo's cross is also out of this world, the way it curls round behind the defenders to land perfectly for Mo, who finishes with an exquisite header, but it's Trent's vision and speed of thought that really makes it all possible. City are chasing shadows from the moment it leaves Trent's foot.