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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7520 on: January 25, 2020, 12:43:00 pm »
Thanks for Virgil and Alisson, you utter tit  8) ;D
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« Reply #7521 on: January 25, 2020, 01:23:30 pm »
He gave his all when he played for us so there is no need for name calling. I don’t even call Michael Owen that.

I think the betrayal was that he could see Klopp was building something special and also around him as main playmaker, yet he chose to leave. Going on strike at one point.

True with his £140m well spent, we have become a better team but that is a moot point as no one knew what would have happened. We could have spanked that £140m on duds like Harry McGuire and Fred instead of VVD and Alisson. I could only judge him based on what he did for us and to us.

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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7522 on: January 25, 2020, 02:30:06 pm »
I'll say a few things on Coutinho:

I had a few lads even at the end of August saying we should bring him back, they're not saying that now.
He was having his best season for us before he left so it says a lot about him that he didn't down tools.
His price tag was always going to set expectation to a ridiculous level when we went to Barca post Neymar.
Bayern were never going to buy him, paying £8.5 million to a take him on loan for a year made sense, the £120 million transfer fee doesn't.
His family were the first and last people in the ground at away games so I wish him well for the future except against us.

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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7523 on: January 25, 2020, 02:50:51 pm »
He gave his all when he played for us so there is no need for name calling. I don’t even call Michael Owen that.

I think the betrayal was that he could see Klopp was building something special and also around him as main playmaker, yet he chose to leave. Going on strike at one point.

True with his £140m well spent, we have become a better team but that is a moot point as no one knew what would have happened. We could have spanked that £140m on duds like Harry McGuire and Fred instead of VVD and Alisson. I could only judge him based on what he did for us and to us.

Owen rightly gets called a c*nt for where he finished his career. Going mental for a crowd who call us murderers and mock the 96? He can go fuck himself the Judas c*nt and what he did while here means fuck all.
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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7524 on: January 25, 2020, 02:56:50 pm »
He gave his all when he played for us so there is no need for name calling.

I guess that doesn't include the period of  faking injury whilst collecting his wages?
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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7525 on: January 25, 2020, 05:02:51 pm »
I guess that doesn't include the period of  faking injury whilst collecting his wages?

No worse than Suarez, who went on hunger strike whenever he wanted to move clubs.
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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7526 on: January 25, 2020, 05:04:36 pm »
No worse than Suarez, who went on hunger strike whenever he wanted to move clubs.

What a bizarre version of events  ;D
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7527 on: January 25, 2020, 05:05:32 pm »
No worse than Suarez, who went on hunger strike whenever he wanted to move clubs.

Suarez didn't miss any games by faking injury though, not that I want to defend the goofy twat.
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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7528 on: January 25, 2020, 05:17:27 pm »
Worrying if true.

Only worrying if we'd have spent the money on Pickford and Keane.

We didn't and we're top of the League.

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« Reply #7529 on: January 25, 2020, 05:36:55 pm »
Suarez didn't miss any games by faking injury though, not that I want to defend the goofy twat.

Yeah, he did much worse.
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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7530 on: January 25, 2020, 05:55:00 pm »
Suarez didn't miss any games by faking injury though, not that I want to defend the goofy twat.

Is cannibalism better then? Coutinho pretended to have an injury to force his way out. Suarez got himself an ultra long suspension to force his way out.
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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7531 on: January 25, 2020, 06:03:47 pm »
Is cannibalism better then? Coutinho pretended to have an injury to force his way out. Suarez got himself an ultra long suspension to force his way out.


 :lmao :lmao :lmao

He did it playing for Uruguay to get his move. 

cannibalism, utter tabloid bullshit
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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7532 on: January 25, 2020, 06:35:15 pm »

 :lmao :lmao :lmao

He did it playing for Uruguay to get his move. 

cannibalism, utter tabloid bullshit

It was his second offence when getting out of Liverpool. He'd done the same thing before when getting out of Ajax. When Suarez wanted a move, he'd get himself suspended for a long time by biting someone, thus making his stay at his current club untenable.
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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7533 on: January 25, 2020, 06:37:58 pm »
What about the other time he did it...?
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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7534 on: January 25, 2020, 06:44:43 pm »
What about the other time he did it...?

Biting someone would be a low point in someone's career, the kind of trivia buried in a league's history. Suarez has managed it twice.
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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7535 on: January 25, 2020, 06:51:58 pm »
Biting someone would be a low point in someone's career, the kind of trivia buried in a league's history. Suarez has managed it twice.

He did it against Chelsea as well didn't he?

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« Reply #7536 on: January 25, 2020, 07:09:30 pm »
Biting someone would be a low point in someone's career, the kind of trivia buried in a league's history. Suarez has managed it twice.

3 times actually
Its not cannibalism, thats just daft to suggest so
Its not related to Coutinho




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« Reply #7537 on: January 25, 2020, 07:22:30 pm »
3 times actually
Its not cannibalism, thats just daft to suggest so
Its not related to Coutinho

It's not a hunger strike either. Both are just flippant references to him biting an opponent when he wanted a lengthy suspension to make his stay at his current club untenable. What Coutinho did in feigning injury, whilst shithouse, was no more shithouse than what Suarez did, and Suarez is still seen as a hero by many.
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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7538 on: January 25, 2020, 07:25:13 pm »
The sort of utter shite peddled by the gutter press ;D

Anyway....Coutinho
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7539 on: January 25, 2020, 07:57:53 pm »
Liked him as a Liverpool player and enjoyed his skills/goals.

He wanted to leave and that`s his business. I didn`t particularly like the manner in which he tried to force his transfer however.

Anyway, we`re a better team now without him and that`s the important thing for me.

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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7540 on: January 26, 2020, 02:44:04 am »
Liked him as a Liverpool player and enjoyed his skills/goals.

He wanted to leave and that`s his business. I didn`t particularly like the manner in which he tried to force his transfer however.

Anyway, we`re a better team now without him and that`s the important thing for me.

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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7541 on: January 26, 2020, 03:28:19 am »
Wish him well and hope he gets his career back on track.
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« Reply #7542 on: January 26, 2020, 05:00:47 am »
Phil's desire to leave - was the best decision he ever made for LFC - it enabled us to take the squad to the next level. I will always have a soft spot for the sacrificial lamb that allowed us to bring #19 and #6 home.

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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7543 on: January 27, 2020, 09:16:27 am »
not sure if mentioned, brain fried after a shite sleep but i once read somewhere Klopp nearly fell off his chair laughing when he heard what they were offering for him in the end.

way too good to turn down
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« Reply #7544 on: January 27, 2020, 09:39:53 am »
not sure if mentioned, brain fried after a shite sleep but i once read somewhere Klopp nearly fell off his chair laughing when he heard what they were offering for him in the end.

way too good to turn down

In a reverse of the fears that FSG would force sales of players, Klopp wanted him gone the previous window after Coutinho made his wishes known but FSG vetoed the sale until they got an offer satisfactory to them. The eventual January offer was satisfactory to them and hilarious to Klopp.
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« Reply #7545 on: January 27, 2020, 09:44:55 am »
In a reverse of the fears that FSG would force sales of players, Klopp wanted him gone the previous window after Coutinho made his wishes known but FSG vetoed the sale until they got an offer satisfactory to them. The eventual January offer was satisfactory to them and hilarious to Klopp.
think klopp wanted him to stay, am sure the club came out saying they did everything to make him stay (then again they probably would)

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« Reply #7546 on: January 27, 2020, 09:48:16 am »
think klopp wanted him to stay, am sure the club came out saying they did everything to make him stay (then again they probably would)



Coutinho in Klopp's system was very very good; the money from his sale that bought Alisson and VVD
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« Reply #7547 on: January 27, 2020, 10:01:58 am »
Coutinho in Klopp's system was very very good; the money from his sale that bought Alisson and VVD
is changing the history of the club.
we were the big winners alright

im sure coutinho money accounted for most of it alright

142m shelled out and that was what we would recoup if all his add ons were met

i cant imagine the were though. But still his value has plummeted
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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7548 on: January 27, 2020, 10:02:11 am »
He came up us and did his job efficiently.
He always saw us as a stepping stone. Whether we liked it or not, its undeniable.
He saw a chance to move to his dream club and did what he thought was the best way to move there.
I stopped caring about him since the day he last wore our red jersey. Let him win everything or nothing.
His sale enabled us to build a team thats less about invidivuals and build an efficient team thats capable of challenging on multiple fronts.
I thank him for his services to us.

P.S. There was a poster who said let it be a lesson to those Latin/South American who see Barca and Real as the only dream clubs. Nah. I would rather we unearth a gem like this once in a while and sell him for a tidy profit and optimise our team as per necessity that will help us win even more trophies. And ultimately, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back.

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« Reply #7549 on: January 27, 2020, 10:05:45 am »
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« Reply #7550 on: January 27, 2020, 10:13:06 am »
And ultimately, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back.

But what will happen if Standard Chartered want to change their logo? Will it break the club?
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« Reply #7551 on: January 27, 2020, 11:05:01 am »
But what will happen if Standard Chartered want to change their logo? Will it break the club?

Logos dont matter mate. I said "Name on the front..." ;)

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« Reply #7552 on: January 27, 2020, 11:18:57 am »
It's not a hunger strike either. Both are just flippant references to him biting an opponent when he wanted a lengthy suspension to make his stay at his current club untenable. What Coutinho did in feigning injury, whilst shithouse, was no more shithouse than what Suarez did, and Suarez is still seen as a hero by many.


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« Reply #7553 on: January 28, 2020, 09:45:42 am »
His long range shooting from outside the box was a thing of beauty. Best in the world from outside the box on his right foot imo.

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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7554 on: February 3, 2020, 04:25:52 am »
The Couthino departure, and to a large extent, the Suarez and Sterling departures....occurred against the backdrop of us being desperate to get our first league win in a very long time. Naturally, we were all feeling insecure about just becoming a feeder club against the backdrop of that ambition and hearing journos and rival fan-bases describe us as such....in that....any players who stand out and become "too good" will just be hoovered up by bigger [at the time] clubs with more realistic ambition and trophy/medal potential for these players.

I think this is the thing that hurts our sensibilities at Anfield. In that, some players weren't prepared to stick around and become an indefinite, key part of our title ambitions. With the benefit of hindsight, we can now see that it was a manager that we actually needed to secure in order to press this ambition, not just one or two exceptional players whom we had to desperately try and cling on to.

At the time of Coutinho's departure, I think we'd all had a great lift from the arrival of Klopp and just viewed Coutinho as a cash generator we could use to strengthen the team "properly."

We're now in a very different position.

The notion of any players in this current squad wanting out for "ambition" purposes seems to be remote and unlikely. It's more likely that more and more quality players will want IN when it comes to LFC and this is one of the best unspoken rewards of domestic success and European reputation.

We're going to be able to attract "prime" and "finished article" players if we do our homework properly, and I'd much rather enjoy this period than lament about the likes of Coutinho, because although I enjoyed his skills and contributions, I always knew we were just his shop window back then, as was any player who managed to stand out, and that before too long, other clubs would come sniffing around them.

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« Reply #7555 on: February 3, 2020, 11:10:12 am »
Could imagine Arsenal and Arteta going for him.  Think he would suit their style.  ie pretty on the eye ... but flakey.
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« Reply #7556 on: February 4, 2020, 11:51:39 am »
Could imagine Arsenal and Arteta going for him.  Think he would suit their style.  ie pretty on the eye ... but flakey.

Surely the new Barca coach will have a look at him pre-season.
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« Reply #7557 on: February 5, 2020, 10:29:08 am »
Could imagine Arsenal and Arteta going for him.  Think he would suit their style.  ie pretty on the eye ... but flakey.

With a crowd still likely to get on his back? Won't do well :D

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« Reply #7558 on: February 6, 2020, 08:16:32 pm »
Surely the new Barca coach will have a look at him pre-season.

Wasn't it a two season loan? If that's the case, Bayern would be silly to let him go. He's not a bad player to have, but no way are they paying his buy out clause.

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Re: Coutinho
« Reply #7559 on: February 6, 2020, 08:21:53 pm »
Wasn't it a two season loan? If that's the case, Bayern would be silly to let him go. He's not a bad player to have, but no way are they paying his buy out clause.

Well they already seem to have decided that they don't want him. And he probably has no place at Barca, being Valverde's most prominent/tainted signing.
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