Topic: Injury (and absence) related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)

[Nick110581]

At the same time dont rule out us doing for our own PR needs. We could do it because its true, because we are trying to dampen down the desperation to sign a new player or because we dont want our fans head to fall off.

They have already fallen off.

League title won’t happen cause we drew to Fulham.

[Ghost Town]

It's a right pain in the ass unfortunately same names again and again injured. Keita and Ox 

Keita isn't injured, he was ill and Klopp said he was back

im lost for words

if only 

on both i could understand if they where world beaters but they aren't even close and can't understand why they are still here just constant sick notes.

the manager wanted them here. Ox will probably go but Klopp wants to offer Keita a new contract. Guess you'll be lost for words for some time still.

[Thiago is a real worry just seems to be constantly pulling up with something but obviously given the talent he should be given all the leeway in the world. We just seem to be desperately unlucky in regards getting clusters of injuries in the same positions.

Maybe something about the intensity of our midfield play? I don't know if that's a possibility. Keita had no particular injury history before coming here; which should serve as a caution that any player we buy won't be guaranteed injury free. There is never a guarantee. I read the other day that Gini has been injured a fair bit since leaving us, though he rarely was while here.

[Fromola]

The Thiago injury sounds far more positive than initially thought.

Hopefully, but I remember they said that after Goodison and he didn't play for 4 months. The club are always very vague about injuries.

[rawcusk8]

No way am I getting my hopes up regarding any of our injured players. Whenever Klopp or anyone has said it’s a small problem we haven’t seen the player for months.

[Fromola]

the manager wanted them here. Ox will probably go but Klopp wants to offer Keita a new contract. Guess you'll be lost for words for some time still.
Maybe something about the intensity of our midfield play? I don't know if that's a possibility. Keita had no particular injury history before coming here; which should serve as a caution that any player we buy won't be guaranteed injury free. There is never a guarantee. I read the other day that Gini has been injured a fair bit since leaving us, though he rarely was while here.

The biggest predictor of injuries can be previous injuries. We've got screwed by Keita's old national team coach which has caused injury problems there. Ox and Thiago we knew signing them were made of glass. Henderson has had issues dating back to the Rodgers days with his heel. Milner is just more prone to a muscle pull if he's overplayed given his age. Elliott suffered a freak injury and Jones had an eye problem last season of all things. Fabinho is relatively durable but can be overplayed and overburdened (i.e. the injury in the run-in last season when he could have done with the rest at Villa). We had Gini who was always available and therefore played because somebody else was always out.

[SamLad]

Neil Jones

Unlikely he knows anymore than the Club and they aren’t going to say he’s out for 6-8 weeks if we want a midfielder

"unlikely" ?? 

[El Lobo]

At the same time dont rule out us doing for our own PR needs. We could do it because its true, because we are trying to dampen down the desperation to sign a new player or because we dont want our fans head to fall off.

Ahhh yes the PR of leaking that it’s not serious and him then missing 3 months would be incredibly positive

[Red46]

Personally speaking I think the club needs to go out and buy or loan a CM, Thiago oozes quality but he’s injury prone, Hendo is 32 (not an ideal age for a grafter type) and has developed a habit of picking up one or two troubling injuries himself,  Milner will be 37 just after Christmas and is probably not capable of playing week in week out anymore and of course Naby is made of glass.
The likes of Curtis (who is injured himself), Elliott and Carvalho etc are still a bit young , aren’t really CM’s and aren’t really disciplined enough to play that role.
That leaves Fab as the only player we can really hang our hats on.
I think we need to go out and buy/loan someone or we could find ourselves in a similar situation to when we had no CB’s. That scenario very nearly cost us a CL place, we scraped into the top 4 by the skin of our teeth. Don’t want to go through that again.

[Caston]

6 weeks out for Thiago

[Phineus]

Just a great opening fixture all round eh

[killer-heels]

6 weeks out for Thiago

Takes us to the back end of September when he returns, so he probably misses half of this first half of the season.

If its 6 weeks then i doubt we go for anyone.

I am a bit concerned about Konate. I wonder if its like the Jota injury in his first season.

[SamLad]

6 weeks out for Thiago

where is that Caston?  I can't find anything.

[Ghost Town]

Hmm it's a bit middling, If he'd been out for a lot longer I suspect we'd have brought someone else in. Not sure we will for 6 weeks.

The young'uns will just have to step up

[Nick110581]

Athletic confirming that

6 weeks out then training so be two months

[killer-heels]

7 league fixtures he misses but there is a international break at the back end of September so that gives him the 2 weeks he will need to get some full training in.

If he doesn't get back in time though then its a blow because he will miss the games against Arsenal and crucially Man City. He already misses United, Everton and Chelsea.

[Nick110581]

7 league fixtures he misses but there is a international break at the back end of September so that gives him the 2 weeks he will need to get some full training in.

If he doesn't get back in time though then its a blow because he will miss the games against Arsenal and crucially Man City. He already misses United, Everton and Chelsea.

Chelsea is away too

It’s a pretty big blow

[killer-heels]

Chelsea is away too

It’s a pretty big blow

Of course, but I am not sure its enough to sign a midfielder.

I mean, we should. Our collection of midfielders is a bit mad.

[Nick110581]

Of course, but I am not sure its enough to sign a midfielder.

I mean, we should. Our collection of midfielders is a bit mad.

We needed a midfielder before he got injured.

We still won’t sign one.

[robertobaggio37]

Who’ll translate for Nunez now? 

[Ghost Town]

Who’ll translate for Nunez now? 

Stefan Bajcetic?

[SamLad]

7 league fixtures he misses but there is a international break at the back end of September so that gives him the 2 weeks he will need to get some full training in.

If he doesn't get back in time though then its a blow because he will miss the games against Arsenal and crucially Man City. He already misses United, Everton and Chelsea.

plus 2 CL games ... potentially 3 or 4 if it goes into October.

[ac]

I'd be amazed if we signed someone as management already knew Thiago is prone to injuries and long lay offs - this latest injury changes nothing. In a way the stance is admirable as it gives youth a chance and helps with squad harmony by virtue of having smaller squad. In another way its a bit infuriating as you can quite easily see our issues in midfield costing us the league.

[Fromola]

Chelsea is away too

It’s a pretty big blow

To be fair it's written in stone that we can't have our best midfield available against Chelsea.

[TAA66]

I’ve been impressed with Bajcetic - think he might get a chance in a few PL games from the bench now.

[VVM]

I wonder if we'd have entertained the idea of loaning Gini back if he hadn't just gone to Roma.

[terry_macss_perm]

Athletic confirming that

6 weeks out then training so be two months

Who knows.

Time is an illusion.

And time of injury absences as announced by LFC is doubly so.

[jckliew]

If the club does not bring anyone in, it's a Big big test for Klopp's management with the midfielders out.

[TepidT2O]

Real opportunity for Elliot this, and I think he’s ready to capitalise.

Could be really good for the club in the long term.

[TepidT2O]

If the club does not bring anyone in, it's a Big big test for Klopp's management with the midfielders out.

You don’t buy a player to cover a six week injury (not unless you’re really badly run anyway)

[jckliew]

You don’t buy a player to cover a six week injury (not unless you’re really badly run anyway)

We have Hendo, Fab, Milly, and Elliot plus some kids left in Midfield?  That is pretty thin to start a season.
Another injury to any of the 4 in that time will probably write the season off.

[TepidT2O]

We have Hendo, Fab, Milly, and Elliot plus some kids left in Midfield?  That is pretty thin to start a season.
Another injury to any of the 4 in that time will probably write the season off.

And keita.

Let’s not try to make it sound silly

[xbugawugax]

any idea when curtis will be back as well?

guess frustrating time for him as well last season with covid and eye injuries. and now with elliot and carvalho in the squad. more so for him to step it up a bit.

how was curtis injury record when he is still with the youth?

[mercurial]

Hendo, Milly, Fab, Naby and Elliot/Carvalho should be able to cover midfield for 6 weeks.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Thiago is like finding money in a coat pocket.

[Dazzer23]

And keita.

And the chances of him going two whole months without picking up an injury? 

Then you are down to 4, playing twice a week from September, two of them in their 30’s. Hopefully not, but it could get worse before it gets better.

[Knight]

And the chances of him going two whole months without picking up an injury? 

Then you are down to 4, playing twice a week from September, two of them in their 30’s. Hopefully not, but it could get worse before it gets better.

Assuming Jones isn't serious we're hopefully fine but if he's out for a few more weeks I reckon it's pretty likely that it gets worse before it gets better. All the other fit midfielders have an injury in them and they're going to need to play more minutes than we'd like.

[RedSamba]

The bad thing is you can never be sure with Thiago. Six weeks could easily become 10

[Nick110581]

We have Hendo, Fab, Milly, and Elliot plus some kids left in Midfield?  That is pretty thin to start a season.
Another injury to any of the 4 in that time will probably write the season off.

Why would you write the season off?

[has gone odd]

Stupid to write off a season based off 1 whole game played!

Have to say though, before even Ox and Thiago were inured, even Klopp himself was looking for a midfielder so there is no doubt we are now cut short there. The length of our injuries are always a mystery, Ramsay for 1 is weird, fanfare on arrival then .... near silence "a problem has been identified and needs looking at to prevent long term issues" which is fair enough but still.

Cannot see Hendo, Milner and Keita all staying fit for 2 months solid. We are not totally up shit creek but its not exactly happy days either is it.

[Asam]

Stupid to write off a season based off 1 whole game played!

Have to say though, before even Ox and Thiago were inured, even Klopp himself was looking for a midfielder so there is no doubt we are now cut short there. The length of our injuries are always a mystery, Ramsay for 1 is weird, fanfare on arrival then .... near silence "a problem has been identified and needs looking at to prevent long term issues" which is fair enough but still.

Cannot see Hendo, Milner and Keita all staying fit for 2 months solid. We are not totally up shit creek but its not exactly happy days either is it.

It’s frustrating but we seem to want to do things the most difficult way possible, we will struggle week to week as it stands and add extra mileage/load to the legs of our fitter players

Jones in particular has to be the most frustrating player at the club, he should be pushing to be a starter now given his ability