No you're not a loony, you're a pretty decent poster and I was just having a laugh.
But the point you made was a bit lol-worthy. You said:
Before proceeding to claim that in that instance blame could be ascribed on the manager because his opinion was different to yours.
Surely you can see why that's nuts? You just can't attribute (largely or otherwise) losing the league by a point to anything like that. There are too many other variables. And of course we could buy another midfielder and still lost by a point. Or maybe by more if we played that midfielder a lot and he doesn't quite mesh as well as the player he replaces might have. Or he can get injured. Then what? Buy another player just in case?
At the level we are at just spending more money isn't enough. It has to be the right player.
We're not poor, we're not penniless. If another player were necessary or the right player were available we would buy him. At these rareified heights it's about the manager working with a squad he is happy with and then seeing what comes out in the wash at the end of the season. Sometimes it goes for you, sometimes it doesn't.
Sport is unpredictable and we have a top manager and a fantastic squad, better than we've ever had since our previous halcyon days. We've done as much as can be reasonably expected to make sure we're ready. After that we're at the mercy of luck and events.
So the only reason to start apportioning blame is to assuage ones frustration about something that is inherently unpredictable anyway or, as the poster above said, if "spend more money" has just become a catchall excuse to throw at any problems or reversals we end up facing, any ill-wind or rough seas.
I was responding to this...
I think you can extend it from Klopp to his team and the entire recruitment team and the clubs philosophy around how resources are utilised for recruitment and retention.
The thing is, I think people know this. But don't have the balls want to openly criticise Klopp around the recruitment policy he's a huge part of.
If you think not having a midfielder brought in this summer is an absolute key factor in us not winning this season, have the bravery to put you neck out and blame Klopp (and others).
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DonkeyWan and Dave McCoy are 2 people who are hiding behind this a bit. If you think midfield is such an issue and something we have neglected over the last few years and has contributed to us not winning trophies then say who you blame for that.
But you understand that the poster you were responding to was replying to someone who suggested we didn't win the league or the Champions League because we didn't sign enough players and that we haven't signed enough players this year?
Yes, I realise that. Do you realise they may have been, and may yet be, right? How do you know not buying a midfielder, either last summer or this, wouldn't win us a title?
I think people like that need to take a step back and look at our squad which is legitimately one of the best in the world. If we've managed to get there without a net spend like City or Utd then surely that's something to be celebrated?
Can we not celebrate it whilst at the same time thinking it could be slightly better? By the way, I'm not even saying it would definitely be better (other players may get frustrated at lack of game time, other variables, etc, etc.) But I, along with other posters are entitled to their opinion, no?
I just don't understand this criticism of the club for doing excellent business.
You say criticism, I say difference of opinion. I am in absolute awe of how the club is run - we are the best run club on the planet, but I don't agree with every decision made.
It seems certain people want us to be run unsustainably for some reason.
Which people? Do you think buying one midfielder (either this window or last summer) would push us into being "unsustainable". Just as an example (not one I subscribe to BTW, but one i've seen mentioned and would fit the argument), would loaning Gini for a year push us into the red?
Some people would've done more to coax Ox out of the door to free up wages, others would be prepared to sacrifice Naby. Wanting a new midfielder doesn't necessarily mean crippling the clubs finances.
I reckon another midfielder would be ace too ...
Glad we agree!
... but to use last season's performance as a stick to beat the recruitment team, including Klopp, with is just a bit silly.
Literally nobody is doing this.
You see, this is the issue I have with RAWK, there are too many excellent posters too keen to jump on anyone with a differing opinion, or someone who hasn't properly analysed the clubs financials (some of us have work to do), and there's far too much needless polarisation of opinions. It's a fan forum ffs, let people have a slightly lazy, not properly researched opinion (unless they're being complete dickheads about it, which I don't think anyone is mind). It's been said many times, but needs to be said again, if we all need to agree with Klopp and FSG on everything, then shut the forum down - it's literally pointless.
I think we all need the football to start!