Author Topic: Jari Litmanen (Read 88503 times)

buchigo! · « **Reply #80 on:** February 12, 2009, 07:23:52 am »

Quote from: GBF on August 11, 2008, 10:00:13 pm

imagine a fit Litmanen behind Torres and Keane...

don't encourage the gay for nando brigade.

Quote from: ۩ Imperator ۩ on February 11, 2009, 11:48:26 pm

In terms of ability, no contest.

seriously, not just because he's my favourite player of all time, when he was on form and injury free, one of the most complete (i'll concede zidane, maybe that chupa chups sucking guy who took being a "complete player" to another level

) players ever. a combination of gerrard AND god at his peak.

one of my favourite moments was his scissor kick goal AT THE EDGE of the box (i'm not sure if it was witschge or wouter who crossed and if it was against nac or roda), as well as his pass from his own half to paddy kluivert at barca (i still remember the commentator going wild as it was a "precise as a laser..."). as much as i love god and gerro, neither can do both.

MaschHead · « **Reply #81 on:** February 12, 2009, 09:32:41 am »

He even played on the nr.4 position at Ajax from time to time (defensive midfielder basically) and was great there as well

Adeemo · « **Reply #82 on:** February 12, 2009, 11:11:09 pm »

I really don't like to think of Jari too much, gets me way too angry thinking what could've been. Ged made some right old fuck ups.

fowlerisgod96 · « **Reply #83 on:** February 13, 2009, 12:07:23 am »

Quote from: buchigo! on February 12, 2009, 07:23:52 am

a combination of gerrard AND god at his peak.

Behave yourself.

Litmanen was class, very good player. Not a patch on Fowler or Gerrard.

buchigo! · « **Reply #84 on:** February 13, 2009, 12:53:10 am »

Quote from: fowlerisgod96 on February 13, 2009, 12:07:23 am

Behave yourself.

Litmanen was class, very good player. Not a patch on Fowler or Gerrard.

your insularity is amusing.

fowler and gerrard are on my list of top five favourite players, but neither of them can hold a candle to the completeness jari brought (as i said there's zidane and johann)- to finish that well (fowler) WHILE linking up play altogether and dictating the game (what gerrard does) is something a few players were able to accomplish (cf. zidane, cruyff, diego, perhaps lionel and that gel advert because of their free roles in the game today)

fowlerisgod96 · « **Reply #85 on:** February 13, 2009, 12:59:50 am »

Quote from: buchigo! on February 13, 2009, 12:53:10 am

your insularity is amusing.

fowler and gerrard are on my list of top five favourite players, but neither of them can hold a candle to the completeness jari brought (as i said there's zidane and johann)- to finish that well (fowler) WHILE linking up play altogether and dictating the game (what gerrard does) is something a few players were able to accomplish (cf. zidane, cruyff, diego, perhaps lionel and that gel advert because of their free roles in the game today)

Heres the thing though. Litmanen never did finish as well as Fowler and never did dictate the game like Stevie does.

Like I say, I loved Jari. Thought him and Robbie, very briefly, were the best strikeforce we've had since Kenny and Rushie. But to put him on a par with the likes of Fowler and Gerrard, let alone Maradona and Zidane, is mad. I'd put him in the same sort of bracket as Djorkaeff or Ginola. Bit of a cult icon. But nowhere near as amazing as you seem to think.

Jaska · « **Reply #86 on:** March 28, 2009, 04:02:00 pm »

Quote from: BBC Live Text

1542: GOAL Wales 0-1 Finland
Jonatan Johansson slips the ball past the onrushing Wayne Hennessey to put Finland in front after breaking down the left and cutting in on goal. Disappointing on several levels. Poor defending created the opening for Johansson, with Gareth Bale caught out trying to play offside. Hennessey was slow off his line and James Collins failed to clear it off the line as he tracked back.

Litmanen put Johansson through with a delightful pass with the outside of his boot

Bangers N Masch · « **Reply #87 on:** March 28, 2009, 04:06:24 pm »

He's been superb today. His passing is still absolutely immense. Just the weight and timing. Makes it look so easy.

Crouchy · « **Reply #88 on:** March 28, 2009, 04:23:00 pm »

His passing ability is awesome, how many times has he cut open the Welsh defence?

Gus 1855 · « **Reply #89 on:** March 28, 2009, 04:28:11 pm »

Why oh why couldn't Houllier have got the best out of him? Very sad!

StuH · « **Reply #90 on:** March 28, 2009, 04:30:47 pm »

Letting him go was one of Houllier's biggest mistakes. Imagine, even now, he could come on for one of those games where we are struggling at home for twenty minutes and break the opposition down.

tonypaj · « **Reply #91 on:** March 28, 2009, 04:38:28 pm »

Quote from: fowlerisgod96 on February 13, 2009, 12:59:50 am

Heres the thing though. Litmanen never did finish as well as Fowler and never did dictate the game like Stevie does.

Like I say, I loved Jari. Thought him and Robbie, very briefly, were the best strikeforce we've had since Kenny and Rushie. But to put him on a par with the likes of Fowler and Gerrard, let alone Maradona and Zidane, is mad. I'd put him in the same sort of bracket as Djorkaeff or Ginola. Bit of a cult icon. But nowhere near as amazing as you seem to think.

Litmanen was the man in Van Gaal's Ajax team in mid 90s, winning the Champions League, being the top scorer the following year, again being in the final. He is way above the Ginolas of this world, no cult hero, but one of the greats in Ajax's history, alongside with Cruyff and Van Basten. His best years were with Ajax, after that in Barcelona and Liverpool he was unfortunately injured way too much. Comparing to Fowler or Gerrard is pointless, however I'd take Litmanen at his peak over either one of them. And even now, at 38, he dominates against the Welsh...

thredworm · « **Reply #92 on:** March 28, 2009, 04:43:13 pm »

Absolutely imperious today.

Dudek savessssss.........! · « **Reply #93 on:** March 28, 2009, 04:46:29 pm »

Daniel Sjolund on now for Finland. A blast from the past!!! Still only 25 years old

Jaska · « **Reply #94 on:** March 28, 2009, 04:55:04 pm »

Wales 0-2 Finland. Brilliant!

rowan_d · « **Reply #95 on:** March 28, 2009, 04:57:13 pm »

Thoughts on Bellamy, Jaska?

Phil M · « **Reply #96 on:** March 28, 2009, 04:59:49 pm »

Quote from: Jaska on March 28, 2009, 04:55:04 pm

Wales 0-2 Finland. Brilliant!

Well done mate, your manager is doing a good job, uses Litmanen perfectly
to get the best out of your strikers and a solid organised defence marshalled
by Sami.

Hazell · « **Reply #97 on:** March 28, 2009, 05:04:28 pm »

Quote from: thredworm on March 28, 2009, 04:43:13 pm

Absolutely imperious today.

Boss performance. Still a joy to watch hime play at 38 years of age

barnseysbarmyarmy · « **Reply #98 on:** March 28, 2009, 05:18:19 pm »

Great result for the Finns today, I dont really have a nationality as such, having moved here threre and everywhere but being a Finn by birth I'd love to see Finland in a major tournament at last...Might be a big ask this year with Germany and Russia, but you never know...And this Baxter fella seems to know what he's doing.

The Jackal · « **Reply #99 on:** March 28, 2009, 05:39:37 pm »

the 2 best players on the pitch today - Jari and Sami - probably the 2 oldest on the pitch. Says it all really - class never ages..

Thought Bellamy was typically graceless in his post match comments..

Welshred · « **Reply #100 on:** March 28, 2009, 05:58:58 pm »

Sami was imperious today, he snuffed everything out with ease. Jari was superb also, but what else is he going to be when Toshack and Wales have given him all the space in the world to work his magic?

Paavo · « **Reply #101 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:33:19 pm »

Fuck me, Jari was absolutely amazing today. He moves like an amputated turtle, but his class can never be questioned.

His eye for a pass is joy to behold.

Sami was dominant as ever, also.

Bellamy can go fuck himself with his post-game comments.

Welshred · « **Reply #102 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:37:59 pm »

What did Bellamy say after?

Paavo · « **Reply #103 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:40:11 pm »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/league_of_wales/7970054.stm

King Tay · « **Reply #104 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:40:43 pm »

Signed Litmanen on my birthday, to give an idea of how good he could have been for us was the FA cup 6th round i think against Man City in the treble year, he went off at half time and he made Heskey look like the best centre forward in the world in those 45 minutes. I would have loved him to play more for us

Paavo · « **Reply #105 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:42:52 pm »

I might be biased, being Finn and all, but I thought Finland played Wales of the park with Jari pulling the strings.

It could have been five, even though Finns didn't play very well in the first half.

Welshred · « **Reply #106 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:46:04 pm »

Quote from: One Of God`s Mistakes on March 28, 2009, 06:42:52 pm

I might be biased, being Finn and all, but I thought Finland played Wales of the park with Jari pulling the strings.

It could have been five, even though Finns didn't play very well in the first half.

You sat back, defended very, very well and hit us on the counter attack a few times. To say you played us off the park is utter, utter, utter tripe!

Paavo · « **Reply #107 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:48:29 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on March 28, 2009, 06:46:04 pm

You sat back, defended very, very well and hit us on the counter attack a few times. To say you played us off the park is utter, utter, utter tripe!

Ok, maybe it was too much.

I blame the beer.

StuH · « **Reply #108 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:48:37 pm »

Quote from: One Of God`s Mistakes on March 28, 2009, 06:40:11 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/league_of_wales/7970054.stm

His post match comments on Setanta were embarrassing to be honest.

Welshred · « **Reply #109 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:57:41 pm »

That is fucking shocking what Bellamy said!! At least the Finnish lad scored and created a chance ya fucking useless excuse of a captain!

Helsinki Red · « **Reply #110 on:** March 29, 2009, 02:26:47 pm »

At 0:47 you can see Jari's through pass to Johansson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay3UVLGD0aA&feature=related

conman · « **Reply #111 on:** March 29, 2009, 05:45:14 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on March 28, 2009, 06:46:04 pm

You sat back, defended very, very well and hit us on the counter attack a few times. To say you played us off the park is utter, utter, utter tripe!

shut up bellamy !!

hehee

conman · « **Reply #112 on:** March 29, 2009, 05:46:30 pm »

Quote from: Helsinki Red on March 29, 2009, 02:26:47 pm

At 0:47 you can see Jari's through pass to Johansson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay3UVLGD0aA&feature=related

what a great move... Jari has still got it, but the build up play was very precise and quick ball movement.

Jaska · « **Reply #113 on:** March 29, 2009, 05:56:48 pm »

http://www.skysports.com/football/user_ratings/0,19768,11065_2938997,00.html

mainstandred · « **Reply #114 on:** March 29, 2009, 06:12:21 pm »

Jari Litmanen is a star have enjoyed every part of his career what a great player , loved him at liverpool but was ruined by houllier maybe he should have come to liverpool a bit earlier in his career but a great player .

conman · « **Reply #115 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:59:24 pm »

Quote from: mainstandred on March 29, 2009, 06:12:21 pm

Jari Litmanen is a star have enjoyed every part of his career what a great player , loved him at liverpool but was ruined by houllier maybe he should have come to liverpool a bit earlier in his career but a great player .

i think so, he would have really excelled in the attacking Liverpool that Roy coached..
oh well, we have Rafa, end of

LF · « **Reply #116 on:** March 29, 2009, 08:09:50 pm »

Quote from: mainstandred on March 29, 2009, 06:12:21 pm

Jari Litmanen is a star have enjoyed every part of his career what a great player , loved him at liverpool but was ruined by houllier maybe he should have come to liverpool a bit earlier in his career but a great player .

oh dear.

Ruined in what way?

He wasn't capable of being on the pitch for full 90 minutes and a shadow of his own self. You thought he was coming here first choice? I'd swear he scored like 300 goals and played 500 games by some peoples unbelievable worship of him. He did fuck all as Robbie Keane.

Houllier got some things wrong but this wasn't one of them.

classycarra · « **Reply #117 on:** March 29, 2009, 08:23:52 pm »

he plays passes that make Shefki Kuqi look quick, such is his talent.

love the guy

classycarra · « **Reply #118 on:** March 29, 2009, 08:25:39 pm »

Quote from: LF on March 29, 2009, 08:09:50 pm

He wasn't capable of being on the pitch for full 90 minutes and a shadow of his own self. You thought he was coming here first choice? I'd swear he scored like 300 goals and played 500 games by some peoples unbelievable worship of him. He did fuck all as Robbie Keane.

Houllier got some things wrong but this wasn't one of them.

take it your irish yeah?

conman · « **Reply #119 on:** March 29, 2009, 08:34:53 pm »

Quote from: classycarra on March 29, 2009, 08:25:39 pm

take it your irish yeah?

why do you think that ?