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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3840 on: March 26, 2012, 10:23:28 am »
we should stop dissecting Kenny's words, as if he's some PR expert.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3841 on: March 26, 2012, 10:24:42 am »
It's not the football that's the problem, it's how we consistently have no players in the box. Ever. We're not going to score if we don't have players in the box. We're turning into Arsenal philsophy-wise.
Pretty happy with Arse taking it.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3842 on: March 26, 2012, 10:41:26 am »
I think people are failing to see the obvious here. I know this is my first post but I have been lurking here for a
long, long time and I have almost 30 years experience behind me in following Lfc so I wanted to share some things that
have been on my mind for a while.

Kenny is a legend and nobody is trying to take anything away from what he has done.

Lets take a look at his signings.

Andy Carroll. Lets not mince our words, the lad is rubbish and shows no technical ability or potential to get better.
He is immobile, rigid, unintelligent, slow and one dimensional. The £35 million price tag was totally unjustified and
was on the back of a few long range goals and headers. No wonder Derek Llambias claimed Carroll was worth 'fuck all'.
We are waiting for something that is never going to happen. The lad is never going to get better. You can tell with his
positioning. He just can't read the game at all and what's worse is the fact that he seems weaker than this time last
season, and certainly since his time at the Toon, so he has lost his strength which is the only thing he seems to have
going for him on his good days.

Overall, a horrendous waste of £35 squill and the blame lies soley at Kenny.



Jordan Henderson. This boy may well improve on a scale above that of Carroll but yet again, he is another poor player.
He lacks fight in midfield although sometimes he may show the odd good touch. I can see why Kenny is playing him because
if you want the rainbow you have to put up with the rain but surely a loan move would be better. Good players can fit
into systems without 'training' so I don't know what Kenny is thinking. I hate the term 'got to get used to the way we
play' because good players can do it effortlessly. I think Kenny is showing a lack of confidence in the player with a
blind, hopeless faith that someday he will be a quality performer.

Overall, £16 squill on this young boy was very optimistic but also very stupid.



Stuart Downing

Where to start with this boy? I never rated him at Boro or Villa, he could sling in the odd good cross but again he is
so one dimensional, he doesn't do anything else but cross which is predictable. He's a poor man's Beckham with similar
attributes; cannot get round players, relies on stationary crosses, slow etc. He is never a Liverpool player in a
million years and Kenny has wasted a massive amount of money on him. What was he thinking?

Overall, 20 sodding mill down the turdpipe.



Charlie Adam

I think this guy gets bad press from people on here as he is never as bad as the likes of Downing, Henderson or Carroll.
Personally I think he's just having a bad season. I think next season we'll see a better player.

Overall, £9 mill is slightly OTT but I believe he will come good.



Craig Bellamy

Brilliant player, great signing, should play more games.



Luis Suarez

Good player with great football brain but can't stand his theatrics. Almost embarrassing to us. Can do with being less
greedy but to be honest, if I had the ball, took a look around I would end up going on myself. Who else we got?



Jose Enrique

Solid full back, very good player. Good investment.


We desperately need a midfielder to replace Gerrard who only shows up in the big games these days. Both he and Carra are over the hill; Gerrard maybe has one more season left in him but we need to be looking at buying a creative midfielder


At the end of the day, when all is said and done, Kenny has thrown a lot of money down the drain on some very poor players
and we sit around slagging off the Hodg but he never had this kind of cash. We now have Kenny and sure, we won a cup
which means bugger all - didnt Leicester win it a few years back - but can we seriously say that yesterdays debacle was
anything worse than what we witnessed under Hodg? Or even GH? I doubt it. Kenny comes out with all these embarrassing excuses
like the 'players were tiired' and 'we were unlucky' but i'm starting to doubt his ability to lead us forward. He seems to
come from an ancient period in football which has long been forgotten and would not stand a chance next to the more free
thinking football that Mourinho and co preach. You cant just hack the ball up to a big man and hope he heads it down
anymore. Those days are gone. And I think so is Kenny.

Stop living in false hope. We need to wait for Mourinho and get him.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3843 on: March 26, 2012, 10:43:33 am »
you were doing really well lurking. don't stop.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3844 on: March 26, 2012, 10:44:39 am »
very good

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3845 on: March 26, 2012, 10:49:08 am »
Kenny bought the players? I thought that was/is Comolli's job? 
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3846 on: March 26, 2012, 10:53:43 am »
So Kenny doesn't get to say yes or no?

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3847 on: March 26, 2012, 10:55:20 am »
All I can say is the GLASS (Gerrard, Lucas, Agger, Suarez, Sterling) is half full

A bit sad that other than Suarez , no other player can stake a claim to be part of that GLASS and make it full in the absence of the actual members. 
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3848 on: March 26, 2012, 10:57:24 am »
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-dalglishs-smoke-and-mirrors-really-insults-our-intelligence-7584846.html

This is the kind of fucking article that boils my blood, it is a pure personal attack on Kenny, how can they just get away from it.

Not much wrong with what he said, to be honest. Everyone loves to quote Shankly for their own arguments on here, well Shankly's mantra applies to the other side too.

We are likely going to be in 8th place and a point behind Everton, by the time we play Newcastle away. Unacceptable.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3849 on: March 26, 2012, 10:58:24 am »


F*ck me. You should stick to lurking. Or is this what "almost 30 years experience behind me in following Lfc" does to you?  :o

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3850 on: March 26, 2012, 11:03:27 am »
F*ck me. You should stick to lurking. Or is this what "almost 30 years experience behind me in following Lfc" does to you?  :o

More like 5 years experience behind him following Utd

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« Reply #3851 on: March 26, 2012, 11:05:08 am »
More like 5 years experience behind him following Utd

Does any new member with a negative view on Kenny have to be seen as a manc?

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3852 on: March 26, 2012, 11:08:14 am »
Kenny bought the players? I thought that was/is Comolli's job? 

The owners said something along the lines of Comolli works with the scots and prepares a short list of suggested targets, Kenny picks which ones he would like and then Comolli goes and tries to sign them although this is disputed by some people.
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3853 on: March 26, 2012, 11:09:35 am »
Does any new member with a negative view on Kenny have to be seen as a manc?


No. BUT if the same person goes down the route of hoping for a certain Portugese....

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« Reply #3854 on: March 26, 2012, 11:09:48 am »
Does any new member with a negative view on Kenny have to be seen as a manc?

Not sure the negative view should include "We need to wait for Mourinho and get him". I seriously don't see that coming from a fan with "almost 30 years experience behind me in following Lfc".

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« Reply #3855 on: March 26, 2012, 11:15:56 am »
So Kenny doesn't get to say yes or no?

Kenny doesn't decide how much we spend, no input on the pounds - so the 'squills' aren't down to him

The recruitment strategy is Comolli's. No player can be bought on one persons say so, there are more checks and balances present because of the sums of money involved. FSG have structured the process so that it requires multiple senior staff members to give the go ahead for each player acquisition. Kenny is one of those senior staff.

I think given that FSG are spending millions they are entitled to insist on this 'management team' collective approach, but it does leave fans like you who want to rant and rave and point the finger of blame - a little short of just one person upon whom to vent your spleen because we simply don't know the intricacies of the internal dynamics. Still you can level your abuse at 'the club' - that should do.

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« Reply #3856 on: March 26, 2012, 11:17:38 am »
The only comment that worries me is excuses of tiredness and injuries, saying we don't have the resources to accommodate for that. Which is blatantly wrong.


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« Reply #3857 on: March 26, 2012, 11:17:57 am »
Not sure the negative view should include "We need to wait for Mourinho and get him". I seriously don't see that coming from a fan with "almost 30 years experience behind me in following Lfc".

So we shouldn't want the best manager around managing us? 

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3858 on: March 26, 2012, 11:18:17 am »
We need to wait for Mourinho and get him.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3859 on: March 26, 2012, 11:18:55 am »
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-dalglishs-smoke-and-mirrors-really-insults-our-intelligence-7584846.html

This is the kind of fucking article that boils my blood, it is a pure personal attack on Kenny, how can they just get away from it.

Are you surprised? but his comments at times don't help his case media always on Liverpool back and more so after we wanted there LMA  manager of year out.
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3860 on: March 26, 2012, 11:19:17 am »
Kenny doesn't decide how much we spend, no input on the pounds - so the 'squills' aren't down to him

The recruitment strategy is Comolli's. No player can be bought on one persons say so, there are more checks and balances present because of the sums of money involved. FSG have structured the process so that it requires multiple senior staff members to give the go ahead for each player acquisition. Kenny is one of those senior staff.

I think given that FSG are spending millions they are entitled to insist on this 'management team' collective approach, but it does leave fans like you who want to rant and rave and point the finger of blame - a little short of just one person upon whom to vent your spleen because we simply don't know the intricacies of the internal dynamics. Still you can level your abuse at 'the club' - that should do.

He was responding to a poster who was "pointing the finger of blame" solely on Comolli. It's just as bad as someone placing the blame solely on Kenny. Especially as you say we "simply don't know the intricacies of the internal dynamics."

If anything, they are both equally at fault.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3861 on: March 26, 2012, 11:19:47 am »
So we shouldn't want the best manager around managing us?

Not when he's a c*nt.

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« Reply #3862 on: March 26, 2012, 11:20:26 am »
Not sure the negative view should include "We need to wait for Mourinho and get him". I seriously don't see that coming from a fan with "almost 30 years experience behind me in following Lfc".

Fair enough, i suppose he should of mentioned Klopp or Rodgers instead.......

I don't think it makes him a manc though.

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« Reply #3863 on: March 26, 2012, 11:20:29 am »
Does any new member with a negative view on Kenny have to be seen as a manc?


Come off it, he's a blatant WUM, it's very unlikely a liverpool fan of 30 years experience comes up with that absolute load of tosh.

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« Reply #3864 on: March 26, 2012, 11:22:05 am »
So we shouldn't want the best manager around managing us? 

The best, really ?

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3865 on: March 26, 2012, 11:22:44 am »
So we shouldn't want the best manager around managing us? 

We already have  :wave

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3866 on: March 26, 2012, 11:24:49 am »
Kenny bought the players? I thought that was/is Comolli's job? 

John Henry said all final decisions on players are Kenny's. Comolli does the scouting and gives Kenny the suggestions but final decision is Kenny's.
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« Reply #3867 on: March 26, 2012, 11:27:31 am »
John Henry said all final decisions on players are Kenny's. Comolli does the scouting and gives Kenny the suggestions but final decision is Kenny's.

Can you provide quotes and dates because that isn't what Comolli has said.

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« Reply #3868 on: March 26, 2012, 11:31:11 am »
"We have got a problem winning games in the league. We have to educate ourselves and maybe we have to not play the lovely football that we have been." Asked whether that meant he was considering deploying a more direct style of play, he replied cryptically "maybe we have to change our philosophies a wee bit" and declined to elaborate.

Kenny really is worrying me. He's perplexing himself.

This is too much for him.

Christ. That's worrying to me.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3869 on: March 26, 2012, 11:31:36 am »
I'm not asking for Mourinho as I'd like to see Kenny backed and turn things around next season

But people are kidding themselves if they think that if Kenny decided to step   down that Mourinho would come to us .
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3870 on: March 26, 2012, 11:33:14 am »
I'm not asking for Mourinho as I'd like to see Kenny backed and turn things around next season

But people are kidding themselves if they think Kenny steepled down that Mourinho would come to us .

Mourinho is a shoe-in for a Chelsea return, I reckon, No ITK knowledge, but just a gut feeling looking at the press statements etc. And you are definitely right - mourinho would never come to Liverpool.

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« Reply #3871 on: March 26, 2012, 11:35:30 am »
Mourinho is a shoe-in for a Chelsea return, I reckon, No ITK knowledge, but just a gut feeling looking at the press statements etc. And you are definitely right - mourinho would never come to Liverpool.
Not so sure about a Chelsea return but wouldn't rule it out .

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3872 on: March 26, 2012, 11:36:04 am »
Can you provide quotes and dates because that isn't what Comolli has said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/kenny-dalglish-has-final-say-on-transfers-says-damien-comolli-2181002.html

The Frenchman welcomed the appointment of Dalglish and said all transfer decisions would be deferred to the manager.

"I think it is great for the club and from a personal point of view because the short time I've been here I have exchanged ideas with Kenny on the academy side," he said.

"We have spoken about how we will work and we have been talking all the time and exchanging ideas.

"As I have always said, if Kenny is not happy with a player we think could make the team better, or if he thinks it is not the right timing, it will always be down to the manager to say he is not happy.

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« Reply #3873 on: March 26, 2012, 11:38:58 am »
So we shouldn't want the best manager around managing us?

Best manager is very subjective. King Kenny is probably "best manager" for majority of those who were around during his 1st reign.

Best manager in terms of results and playing style is probably Pep Guardiola.

Best manager in term of c*nt-ness, then maybe Mourinho can be consider as one.

And NO to your question even if Mourinho is indeed the best manager around.

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« Reply #3874 on: March 26, 2012, 11:39:12 am »
Can you provide quotes and dates because that isn't what Comolli has said.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/sport/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2011/11/10/liverpool-fc-owner-john-henry-hails-terrific-damien-comolli-92534-29751341/2/

Mentions Comolli gets the players but Kenny has "the ultimate say".


Edit* Melbred also provided quotes from Comolli who said the same thing.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/kenny-dalglish-has-final-say-on-transfers-says-damien-comolli-2181002.html

The Frenchman welcomed the appointment of Dalglish and said all transfer decisions would be deferred to the manager.

"I think it is great for the club and from a personal point of view because the short time I've been here I have exchanged ideas with Kenny on the academy side," he said.

"We have spoken about how we will work and we have been talking all the time and exchanging ideas.

"As I have always said, if Kenny is not happy with a player we think could make the team better, or if he thinks it is not the right timing, it will always be down to the manager to say he is not happy.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3875 on: March 26, 2012, 11:42:43 am »
If Kenny really thinks we need to go more direct and stop attempting to play "lovely football" (or that we've been playing it recently), then I am extremely concerned about this summer's transfer business.
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« Reply #3876 on: March 26, 2012, 11:43:02 am »
I would like 'the ultimate say' for the next 'window'. If i sent a mail to King Kenny, perhabs...lovely thought 8)
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3877 on: March 26, 2012, 11:51:08 am »
mourinho fucking loves Liverpool, are you kidding?!? He would come in the right circumstances, deffo.

Sorry for writing that in Kenny's thread though. I want him to get a proper opportunity which means at least 5 years. That's if the job doesn't end up burning him out.
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Bunch of centrist wetwipes - Watching Britain sink into obscurity.

Keir Starmer will tank hard. Alan X says I'm a bore, but at least I don't mod forums. That's just sad.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3878 on: March 26, 2012, 11:53:38 am »
mourinho fucking loves Liverpool, are you kidding?!?

No one has said that, have they?

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3879 on: March 26, 2012, 11:53:57 am »
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/sport/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2011/11/10/liverpool-fc-owner-john-henry-hails-terrific-damien-comolli-92534-29751341/2/

Mentions Comolli gets the players but Kenny has "the ultimate say".


Edit* Melbred also provided quotes from Comolli who said the same thing.

The article is more than a year old and the working process could have changed.

Even in the article, Comolli quote was "As I have always said, if Kenny is not happy with a player we think could make the team better, or if he thinks it is not the right timing, it will always be down to the manager to say he is not happy."

I don't think Comolli ever admit that he will not buy the player that Kenny disagree on.