Topic: Roy eyes 5-6 new players in January

[L666KOP]

I love N'Zogbia, would be a great signing. Get it done Roy.

Wouldn't go as far as to say that, but considerably better than we have, if we can get him for the babel transfer fee I'd be happy enough.
Small steps to start with, after all, that's how Rafa did it, build gradually.
If we can get a striker the level below torres, and another one to compete with Ngog I think it would do the trick, and I'll probably get slated for this but I think Davies would be a good shout, would cost buttons, and I'm sure he'd jump at the chance. Fantastic option when teams park the bus and you need to mix it up.
He causes EVERY defence real problems, we always struggle to contain him, and I have a manc that works for me, he reckons they really struggled against him earlier in the season.

[underdog]

As mentioned it's a worry because not only would our budget not buy much quality if it had to cover 5 or 6 players but he is saying that the team needs 5 or 6 players suggesting Agger, Jova, Maxi, Skrtel, Soto, Pacheco, Kelly etc are not good enough.

Small steps to start with, after all, that's how Rafa did it, build gradually.

He bought Alonso and Garcia in as soon as he could, they had a massive effect on us and one of them turned into the best at what he does in the world. He built using decent money to buy players he knew were on the verge of being great.

[richiedouglas]

I'd have lots of people vetting his transfer dealings, although I'd still be more than happy if he was shipped out before then.

Who's going to let their best players leave in January, never mind finding 6. You'll end up paying sky high fees.

[Scribble8]

Henry is smart enough not to let Roy take any decisions I hope.

[rakey_lfc]

N'Zogbia I think would be a decent signing. It worries me about what other signings he brings in though. I don't think I'd trust him with £20m to spend.

[RedinExile]

Didn't Rafa also say that he needed 4 or 5 quality players..

yep about three twenty mill pound players - which would have done it. What's Roy up to now; 20 odd mill? Add 20 total in January?

I'd rather have given Rafa the 40 mill and kept Aquilani and Insua too.

[Adeemo]

Are we really to believe that Wigan would let N'Zogbia go for £9million? IMO they'd want £12million at the very least.

[paddysour]

Wouldn't go as far as to say that, but considerably better than we have, if we can get him for the babel transfer fee I'd be happy enough.
Small steps to start with, after all, that's how Rafa did it, build gradually.
If we can get a striker the level below torres, and another one to compete with Ngog I think it would do the trick, and I'll probably get slated for this but I think Davies would be a good shout, would cost buttons, and I'm sure he'd jump at the chance. Fantastic option when teams park the bus and you need to mix it up.
He causes EVERY defence real problems, we always struggle to contain him, and I have a manc that works for me, he reckons they really struggled against him earlier in the season.

Yeah he's much better than we have, and I really believe with a player like him in the team we'd play much better. He stretches teams and that is invalueable in breaking down compact defences, of course we have to play with the mentality we did against Blackburn to get any use out of him. Would be nice to finally have a proper wide player that can dribble with the ball lol. He wants out of Wigan btw and was dropped at the start of this season for that reason, and if we came sniffing he would push the move for sure. We could get him pretty cheapily in my opinion.
I agree that Davies would be  a decent option from the bench but at his age there is really no point in signing him. I'd like to see Llorente come in, he'd cost a lot more than Davies but he would be worth it.

[perth-red]

yeh right roy how much cash do you think you'll will get to spend in January. 5-6 players, a couple of them world class, your looking at a minimum of 30mill . Werner would be better off using the transfer money to pay roy out of his contract

[Helsinki Red]

Thank Fowler Roy won't be here come January. If for some reason he is still our manager when transfer window opens I wouldn't give him any money to spend. If we buy someone in January I just hope Roy is not in charge of transfers.

[Raoul Duke]

N'Zogbia would be another stop-gap in my opinion. Whilst a decent player, I can't see him being explosive enough to take the Gerrard/Torres attack to another level. We need to sign a genuine world class talent for one of the winger positions: a player who is young, skillful, has pace, is determined, and, most importantly, will come up with a double-figure tally of goals in the league. N'Zogbia just isn't that player. He might make an interesting impact sub or squad player; but he is not the genuine answer we need, and that would be nine million wasted.

[chuckmynorris]

Please no no no NO NO! If this is what is going to happen we're gonna end up with half of the Fulham team by the end of the summer. Hopefully Roy won't be here so long.
Just don't see the idea of signing 5 players in january. If he would've be given a 150 of million of transfer funds then maybe. But I'd be horrified if Roy had that much money to use. Why sign 5 mediocre players when you could rather get 2 actually good useful players.

And january isn't really the window where major big signings are done usually.

N'Zogbia could be a nice signing. Still don't really think that it's what we should settle for. As a backup player, yes. But in starting 11 we should aim much higher.

That comment about Babel just sounds very disrespectful.

[Helsinki Red]

With £20M we could get 10 Scandinavians.

[perth-red]

N'Zogbia would be another stop-gap in my opinion. Whilst a decent player, I can't see him being explosive enough to take the Gerrard/Torres attack to another level. We need to sign a genuine world class talent for one of the winger positions: a player who is young, skillful, has pace, is determined, and, most importantly, will come up with a double-figure tally of goals in the league. N'Zogbia just isn't that player. He might make an interesting impact sub or squad player; but he is not the genuine answer we need, and that would be nine million wasted.

ashley young fits that bill

[Helsinki Red]

And january isn't really the window where major big signings are done usually.

Exactly. January is bad time to buy new players because prices are higher than in the summer. Can see Roy bidding £20M for Bobinho Zamora.

[Dr Abismo]

We should remember that this originates in the Daily Star. 

[RedEire]

roy will buy mostly english based players wait and see. id say west ham are licking their lips with the money roy wil offer for cole now..

[Dr Abismo]

ashley young fits that bill

I'd worry about Ashley Young. He looked brilliant about 3 sasons ago, then faded. Maybe he flatters to deceive. And he'd cost top dollar, being an established Prem player. Anybody who's not good enough for a crap side like England can't be that good.

[stoa]

What happened to us "being overstaffed"?

[Helsinki Red]

Roy will sell Reina and replace him with Rob Green. Green is English style keeper and that's why he is better.

If we sell Torres we could get Cole and Zamora with that money. Brilliant deal if you ask me.

[Gnurglan]

And there we go again. Trying to make it look like it's a difficult task for him. FFS Roy, you have at least 9 players who can play in either of the front two positions. How many do you need? And if this was such a priority, why didn't you buy a striker in the summer?

We can definitely improve. That is always the case though. But Roy's whole approach was to get more from the players. We were overstaffed and now we don't even have enough players. My memory is still intact. Now he says our strikers are not good enough and let's everyone and his dog know we are after a striker in January. Not hard to figure out what that means for the price tag when we make the approach.

Just stay quiet, Roy. Please. 

[Hong Kong Phewy]

Dont give this idiot any money

[L666KOP]

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He bought Alonso and Garcia in as soon as he could, they had a massive effect on us and one of them turned into the best at what he does in the world. He built using decent money to buy players he knew were on the verge of being great.
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Correct, Alonso was inspired, we bought Meireles, not at the level Alonso was when he left, but still a capable player.
Garcia, I think just 'clicked' into our style of play.
But Rafas' turnover of players was immense, yet he more often than not 'traded up'
He also, because of the restrictions placed on him had to sell before he could buy.
However 5 or 6 in January?? Nah......
N'zogbia as a swap for Babel, would be good business.
A Stricker to support/replace Torres when injured is a must, but let's not get held to ransom.

[Dr Abismo]

What happened to us "being overstaffed"?

I assume there'a bout 8 players Hodgson would like to move on, if decent cash can be raised for them. But the focus now is on who we can get in, to salvage something from this awful season.

[xavidub]

Please God do not let this muppet within 10 miles of our transfer budget.

The only transfer I would like to see is Roy Hodgson  to anyfuckingotherteam United.

[Raoul Duke]

ashley young fits that bill

I was thinking bigger. Aguero or Turan.

Young does not represent value for money because he is an English talent. I don't rate him all that highly regardless.

[Dr Abismo]

Roy will sell Reina and replace him with Rob Green. Green is English style keeper and that's why he is better.

If we sell Torres we could get Cole and Zamora with that money. Brilliant deal if you ask me.

Stop it!!

[L666KOP]

N'Zogbia would be another stop-gap in my opinion. Whilst a decent player, I can't see him being explosive enough to take the Gerrard/Torres attack to another level. We need to sign a genuine world class talent for one of the winger positions: a player who is young, skillful, has pace, is determined, and, most importantly, will come up with a double-figure tally of goals in the league. N'Zogbia just isn't that player. He might make an interesting impact sub or squad player; but he is not the genuine answer we need, and that would be nine million wasted.

Problem is mate, a relegation threatened team with potentially no European football at all next season won't have players of that calibre kicking the door down to get in.

[Helsinki Red]

Just stay quiet, Roy. Please. 

I'm afraid it's too much to ask. He just can't shut it.

[Helsinki Red]

Stop it!!

Why? Roy would agree with me.

[Dr Abismo]

Problem is mate, a relegation threatened team with potentially no European football at all next season won't have players of that calibre kicking the door down to get in.

That's a description of Wolves or West Ham, mate. There's more to Liverpool than that. I'm sure we're still a huge pull in the transfer market, especially with new owners in place, and still at least half a dozen excellent players.

[rakey_lfc]

Why? Roy would agree with me.

and thats whats scares us!

[Dixon_Cox]

Eden Hazard
Fabio Contreau
Ever Banega
Mirko Vucinic
Steven Defour
Ibrahim Afellay

One can dream.

This isn't Christmas, it's Halloween, your list should lool more like:

Hangeland
Dempsey
N'Zogbia
C.Cole
Zamora

[Helsinki Red]

and thats whats scares us!

But Roy is experienced and tactical genius.

[Raoul Duke]

Problem is mate, a relegation threatened team with potentially no European football at all next season won't have players of that calibre kicking the door down to get in.

Nonsense. The owners will start a rebuilding job. They will bring in their own manager when they start to implement their plans, and bring together the right combination of people at all levels of the club in order to succeed.

We are Liverpool. European royalty. Once we begin to look like a club on the ascent - a club that is going places, spending the right money, saying the right things and succeeding on the pitch - we will be an extremely attractive proposition to many players. It won't be long now.

[Helsinki Red]

They will bring in their own manager

So what's taking so long?

[Cusamano]

Eden Hazard
Fabio Contreau
Ever Banega
Mirko Vucinic
Steven Defour
Ibrahim Afellay

One can dream.

If Roy could just get three of them I would be over teh moon.

[bam09]

If we're sending anyone to watch Wigan, I'd prefer it was for Roberto Martinez.

[GODS LEFT BOOT]

I hope we keep our powder dry for the summer - top managers don't come cheap and he will want plenty of money to spend

[Gnurglan]

Didn't Rafa also say that he needed 4 or 5 quality players..

Yes, he did. But that was before the arrivals of Poulsen, Konchesky, Jovanovic, Meireles, Cole and the re-signing of Aurelio. It's incredible that Roy thinks he need a dozen new players to take us from 7th to 4th. Even more so when he has taken the squad that finished 7th to the relegation zone. And this is the manager who believed he could get more from the players, without spending so much money.

Makes me furious. His own signings have, Meireles aside, been poor at best. To think that this man should be allowed anywhere near a transfer budget in January does not fill me with any confidence what so ever.