Author Topic: Formula 1 2024 season (Read 25856 times)

Graeme · « **Reply #640 on:** April 21, 2024, 09:56:13 am »

Red Bull would have been 1-2 without the safety car though. Had to pit when the SC came out and Perez lost track position to Norris and Leclerc who had both not long been in and didn’t need to stop under the SC.

Darren G · « **Reply #641 on:** April 21, 2024, 09:59:40 am »

Quote from: Graeme on April 21, 2024, 09:56:13 am

Red Bull would have been 1-2 without the safety car though. Had to pit when the SC came out and Perez lost track position to Norris and Leclerc.

Yeah but in that situation, swap Perez for Leclerc and he gets past both the other two. Probably Lando too in that situation. On both Restarts Max was able to pull out nearly 1 and a half seconds in less than 2/3rd of a lap. That's how much faster that Red Bull is with a top driver. Max and was lapping 6/10ths faster than Perez a lap when both were in clear air. That's just massive.

Graeme · « **Reply #642 on:** April 21, 2024, 10:38:47 am »

I’ve probably said this numerous times on here, but what is the point in the 10 second penalty for Stroll? He was dead last anyway at the time the penalty was issued, and it completely nullifies the punishment. Ricciardo has his race ended. If you wreck another drivers race your punishment should include the start of the next one.

bradders1011 · « **Reply #643 on:** April 21, 2024, 11:26:56 am »

Stroll is a clown, I'm really bored of him stinking up a decent seat now. He's still arrogant, still refuses to admit mistakes after 7+ years in the sport.

The AI-generated car labels that flash on and off can get in the bin.

Liberty were clearly concerned to reassure us that the event was a sellout. Given the huge banners covering stands, I think it sold out the same way the Etihad sells out.

Rosberg is probably Sky's worst co-comm, but I enjoyed him calling out Croft for just not understanding the race situation on several occasions.

Graeme · « **Reply #644 on:** April 21, 2024, 11:31:01 am »

Yeah I thought Rosberg struggled on comms at times, he’s insightful to have around the production but not in the commentary box.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #645 on:** April 21, 2024, 11:35:01 am »

Quote from: bradders1011 on April 21, 2024, 11:26:56 am

Stroll is a clown, I'm really bored of him stinking up a decent seat now. He's still arrogant, still refuses to admit mistakes after 7+ years in the sport.

The AI-generated car labels that flash on and off can get in the bin.

Liberty were clearly concerned to reassure us that the event was a sellout. Given the huge banners covering stands, I think it sold out the same way the Etihad sells out.

Rosberg is probably Sky's worst co-comm, but I enjoyed him calling out Croft for just not understanding the race situation on several occasions.

those 2 'stands' around towards the end of the lap have never had a single spectator in since the place was built. I doubt they're even viable as spectator spots these days.

west_london_red · « **Reply #646 on:** April 21, 2024, 11:56:28 am »

Quote from: Darren G on April 21, 2024, 09:52:13 am

Yeah, really good drive from Lando that. That being said, Perez is so poor. I know that Max is brilliant, but the pace discrepancy here between him and Perez today was borderline ridiculous. Lovely moment for Zhou at the end.

Yeah when you consider Verstappen was able to pull away from Norris after one of the safety cars at about 2 seconds he wasn’t pushing and Perez was still a long way back from Norris and Verstappen.

Edit: just seen you said the same thing in your follow up!

west_london_red · « **Reply #647 on:** April 21, 2024, 12:02:03 pm »

Quote from: bradders1011 on April 21, 2024, 11:26:56 am

Stroll is a clown, I'm really bored of him stinking up a decent seat now. He's still arrogant, still refuses to admit mistakes after 7+ years in the sport.

The AI-generated car labels that flash on and off can get in the bin.

Liberty were clearly concerned to reassure us that the event was a sellout. Given the huge banners covering stands, I think it sold out the same way the Etihad sells out.

Rosberg is probably Sky's worst co-comm, but I enjoyed him calling out Croft for just not understanding the race situation on several occasions.

Bringing some of that together can you imagine if Newey does jump ship to Aston Martin and you have Stroll driving an untouchable Adrian Newey car and winning a world championship… would be about as deserved as a Man City title

Graeme · « **Reply #648 on:** April 21, 2024, 12:45:10 pm »

Quote from: west_london_red on April 21, 2024, 12:02:03 pm

Bringing some of that together can you imagine if Newey does jump ship to Aston Martin and you have Stroll driving an untouchable Adrian Newey car and winning a world championship… would be about as deserved as a Man City title

I don’t think Stroll has ever beaten a teammate over a season in the head to head, so he’s never going to win a WDC ever.

west_london_red · « **Reply #649 on:** April 21, 2024, 12:53:15 pm »

Quote from: Graeme on April 21, 2024, 12:45:10 pm

I don’t think Stroll has ever beaten a teammate over a season in the head to head, so he’s never going to win a WDC ever.

Your probably right of course, I’m just being silly but the fact Stroll still has a seat suggests to me that daddy isn’t as worried about being successful as he is about his son being ‘successful’, if he was thinking about the team and his own success then Junior would have been out on his arse years ago.

Darren G · « **Reply #650 on:** April 21, 2024, 01:08:47 pm »

Quote from: Graeme on April 21, 2024, 12:45:10 pm

I don’t think Stroll has ever beaten a teammate over a season in the head to head, so he’s never going to win a WDC ever.

He beat Sirotkin, but not the greatest achievement that the sport has ever seen and I agree with your point. Even Perez trounced him, so the only way Stoll wins a WDC is in an utterly dominant car, with an utterly shite driver alongside him. Even with such as an advantage as the current Red Bull though, I'd still have doubts.

Quote from: bradders1011 on April 21, 2024, 11:26:56 am

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Rosberg is probably Sky's worst co-comm, but I enjoyed him calling out Croft for just not understanding the race situation on several occasions....

The clearly growing tension between Croft and Rosberg was probably the most interesting part of the race. Not a big fan of Rosberg, but Croft is just awful. For people new to the sport, they're getting so much misinformation week-in, week-out. Nevermind the technical/strategic nuances, he doesn't even get basic race events right. "He's come out ahead of Alonso". Nope, it's Stroll he's come out ahead of. Alonso is 20 seconds down the road you idiot. "He's reeling him in". Nope, the gap has been like that for 8-10 laps. Shit like that every fucking race. I'd honestly rather have James Allen back. What's the point in a commentator who can't accurately describe events?

voodoo ray · « **Reply #651 on:** April 21, 2024, 01:27:49 pm »

stroll will win an f1 world championship at around the same time that satan goes to work on a snowmobile

Graeme · « **Reply #652 on:** April 21, 2024, 02:37:33 pm »

Danny Ric absolutely fuming because Stroll still refusing to accept responsibility for their crash. Stroll is a moron.

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #653 on:** April 25, 2024, 04:10:35 pm »

Newey to leave Red Bull

Graeme · « **Reply #654 on:** April 25, 2024, 04:33:48 pm »

I'm sure either Hamilton's move to Ferrari, or Alonso's decision to extend at Aston Martin is a result of him heading to one of those teams.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #655 on:** April 25, 2024, 05:18:46 pm »

This has been on the cards for a while. It's not clear whether he is heading for Aston Martin or going to Italy. At least then we will see if Horner's view of Red Bull being fine if AN leaves is accurate or not.

clinical · « **Reply #656 on:** April 25, 2024, 05:55:04 pm »

This was behind Hamilton's Ferrari move imo

dirkster · « **Reply #657 on:** April 25, 2024, 05:55:12 pm »

Fucking hell, that's a bit of a bombshell! Come back to McLaren Adrian. Time to come home!!

west_london_red · « **Reply #658 on:** April 25, 2024, 06:10:50 pm »

Quote from: jillcwhomever on April 25, 2024, 05:18:46 pm

This has been on the cards for a while. It's not clear whether he is heading for Aston Martin or going to Italy. At least then we will see if Horner's view of Red Bull being fine if AN leaves is accurate or not.

This is he’s been there for nearly 20 years, over that time you would think his deputies and colleagues would have learnt enough from him that they would still be competitive for a while yet.

Graeme · « **Reply #659 on:** April 25, 2024, 06:29:22 pm »

He can’t join another F1 team until 2027 apparently. Contracted to the end of 2025 and must serve a year of gardening leave after that.

RedSince86 · « **Reply #660 on:** April 25, 2024, 06:38:28 pm »

Come home to Williams Adrian, bring us back to the top.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #661 on:** April 25, 2024, 06:43:31 pm »

I hope he likes gardening.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #662 on:** April 25, 2024, 06:45:46 pm »

I seem to recall he had to go on gardening leave before, perhaps when he had originally left Williams.

gazzalfc · « **Reply #663 on:** April 25, 2024, 06:46:02 pm »

Quote from: voodoo ray on April 25, 2024, 06:43:31 pm

I hope he likes gardening.

He'll aerodynamic the fuck out of a ride on lawnmower

gazzalfc · « **Reply #664 on:** April 25, 2024, 06:49:34 pm »

If this is because of the Horner shite then it could be a power play.

If not then I think it's down to a personal challenge. He has literally done all he can and taken F1 as far as he can. Move back to the Americas cup or another Motorsport

sminp · « **Reply #665 on:** April 25, 2024, 09:44:44 pm »

Quote from: Graeme on April 25, 2024, 06:29:22 pm

He can’t join another F1 team until 2027 apparently. Contracted to the end of 2025 and must serve a year of gardening leave after that.

That’s not what Andrew Benson (BBC) is reporting. He says Newey’s contract expires in 2025 so he’d be free to work in 2026 anyway but that Newey believes he can negotiate an exit that allows him to join a team for next season.

Lisan Al Gaib · « **Reply #666 on:** April 26, 2024, 09:28:37 am »

Hulkenberg to leave Haas at the end of the season

voodoo ray · « **Reply #667 on:** April 26, 2024, 10:17:15 am »

Quote from: Lisan Al Gaib on April 26, 2024, 09:28:37 am

Hulkenberg to leave Haas at the end of the season

he's going back to sauber.

Mr Mingebag Squid · « **Reply #668 on:** April 26, 2024, 11:38:51 am »

Bearman in at Haas?

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #669 on:** April 26, 2024, 11:40:55 am »

Quote from: gazzalfc on April 25, 2024, 06:49:34 pm

If this is because of the Horner shite then it could be a power play.

If not then I think it's down to a personal challenge. He has literally done all he can and taken F1 as far as he can. Move back to the Americas cup or another Motorsport

It's been pretty well known that he's not been impressed by the goings on with Horner.

Raid · « **Reply #670 on:** April 26, 2024, 12:09:36 pm »

Mad that Red Bull would opt to protect Horner over keeping Newey.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #671 on:** April 26, 2024, 01:13:23 pm »

Newey is 65. Maybe 3 or 4 years left at most???

You can win without newey

bradders1011 · « **Reply #672 on:** April 27, 2024, 11:42:08 pm »

Anybody watch that Abu Dhabi Autonomous race?

They're putting a brave face on it, but it was not good. The cars basically didn't work, kept just stopping and spinning. It's undoubtedly impressive that machines can navigate a track by themselves, but I won't be setting my alarm for the next race.