Topic: EPL: Luton Town v Liverpool, Sunday Nov 5th, 4.30pm

[MartinSkrtelsBasement]

I believe Jones will come back in.   Grav has played quite a bit more than he would have expected to do.   



The other issue is with Mac and whether we want him to pick up a yellow to miss the Brentford game.   Not ideal if he gets his 5th yellow card in the Brentford game and is then banned for the sportswashers away post international break.

Think given Grav was benched for Bournemouth, means he will start this one, which I hope to see.

Although Klopp definitely trusts Jones and has thrown him straight in before.

Nice to have midfield options though!

[phil236849]

See Kloppo made a few of his typically semi-opaque references to Doak being back and part of it

[killer-heels]

We obviously should be winning this game but just a bit of a warning that they have shown the most heart and desire of any of the promoted sides. But yeah, this will be a win.

[Knight]

Need to be beating the promoted sides home and away, they’re all really bad.

[Lynndenberries]

Will be a test for us. We had way too much trouble against the lower table sides last season, especially away from home.

[disgraced cake]

Need to be beating the promoted sides home and away, they’re all really bad.

Will be a test for us. We had way too much trouble against the lower table sides last season, especially away from home.

We only took 10 points from 18 last season against the promoted sides last season. 3 in the 9-0 against Bournemouth and truly scraped the rest with wins at home to Forest and Fulham, where we also drew away. We have to take maximum points from all six games against this lot if we want to challenge for the title this season. Luton's effort with what they have is respectable and they had to get here somehow but they really do have nothing in terms of quality at this level, if we turn up we should be comfortable. I don't really think they've been on the end of a hiding yet and they may not be this weekend either but it could be their first real showing of just how different the levels are.

[MonsLibpool]

We should have too much for these. Ideally, we'll kill the game off early.

[redk84]

should win this comfortably

[medley]

Is their pitch tiny? I hate playing on tiny pitches. I get flash backs to awful performances in the 90s (mostly) playing Arsenal at Highbury and the camera being at a strange angle making the pitch seem even smaller

[stockdam]

Thanks Dougle for the trip down memory lane. I'm surprised that Mal Donaghy isn't listed as one of their best players of all time......he was a good but under-rated player.

What's the weather forecast for the match? If it's wet and windy then it will be a big leveller and anything could happen.

It's one of those games that you can't take for granted as they will turn over a big team as you said.

We've been getting better and better and hopefully we cruise through this one.

[wah00ey]

Is their pitch tiny? I hate playing on tiny pitches. I get flash backs to awful performances in the 90s (mostly) playing Arsenal at Highbury and the camera being at a strange angle making the pitch seem even smaller

Our pitch is quite small. 

Team   Stadium   Length (Metres)   Width (Metres)   Area
(Metres)
Arsenal   Emirates Stadium   105   68   7,140
Aston Villa   Villa Park   105   68   7,140
Bournemouth   Dean Court   105   68   7,140
Brentford   Gtech Community Stadium   105   68   7,140
Brighton and Hove Albion   Falmer Stadium   105   68   7,140
Burnley   Turf Moor   105   68   7,140
Chelsea   Stamford Bridge   103.3   67.7   6,993.41
Crystal Palace   Selhurst Park   101   68   6,868
Evetron   Goodison Park   100.48   68   6,832.64
Fulham   Craven Cottage   100   65   6,500
Liverpool   Anfield   101   68   6,868
Luton Town   Kenilworth Road   100.6   65.8   6,619
Manchester City   City of Manchester Stadium   105   68   7,140
Manchester United   Old Trafford   105   68   7,140
Newcastle United   St. James’ Park   105   68   7,140
Nottingham Forest   City Ground   105.2   71.3   7,500.76
Sheffield United   Bramall Lane   101   68   6,868
Tottenham Hotspur   Tottenham Hotspur Stadium   105   68   7,140
West Ham United   London Stadium   105   68   7,140
Wolverhampton Wanderers   Molineux Stadium   105   68   7,140

[buttersstotch]

Tough game, think this will be hard work against a low block. All depends on if we score first. I've been impressed with Luton, but we should be winning this comfortably.

Ali, Trent, Konate, Virgil, Tsimikas, Mac, Szbo, Jones, Salah, Darwin, Jota - I think the team picks itself at the moment. Gakpo and Grav could easily start, but I think they will be benched and come on at some point.

[Fromola]

We only took 10 points from 18 last season against the promoted sides last season. 3 in the 9-0 against Bournemouth and truly scraped the rest with wins at home to Forest and Fulham, where we also drew away. We have to take maximum points from all six games against this lot if we want to challenge for the title this season. Luton's effort with what they have is respectable and they had to get here somehow but they really do have nothing in terms of quality at this level, if we turn up we should be comfortable. I don't really think they've been on the end of a hiding yet and they may not be this weekend either but it could be their first real showing of just how different the levels are.

They did all stay up though, they're relegation fodder this season.

Luton is traditionally a bogey ground for us. Last two times we've played them there we've drawn and were 3-1 down (but came back to win late on) in the FA Cup when they were lower league. Before that they beat us 4 times over a 5 year period between late 80s/early 90s. Another few draws thrown in as well. Over the same period we only won there once.

It's got more of an FA Cup 3rd round feel to it than a league game, but we'll have to be at it.

[Samie]

https://twitter.com/LusbyJack/status/1720489355658121607

Trey Nyoni (16) again part of #LFC first-team training this afternoon.

Ben Doak, Luke Chambers, James McConnell and Calum Scanlon also part of the group along with Jarell Quansah.

[4pool]

"Referee Anthony Taylor has been demoted to the Championship after giving a controversial penalty against Wolves". Just up on Reddit sourced from Wolverhampton Express and Star.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/17mv2ls/ref_watch_anthony_taylor_has_been_demoted_to_the/

How do you like them apples?

Guess we'll find out on Sunday. He is/was scheduled to be 4th official for our match.

[RedG13]

Excited for this. Hope Jones comes back in.

Fyi If you never watched a game at Luton on TV before this camera it is a very low angle.

[markedasred]

Guess we'll find out on Sunday. He is/was scheduled to be 4th official for our match.

Was why I mentioned it in here!.

[TepidT2O]

Our pitch is quite small. 

Team   Stadium   Length (Metres)   Width (Metres)   Area
(Metres)
Arsenal   Emirates Stadium   105   68   7,140
Aston Villa   Villa Park   105   68   7,140
Bournemouth   Dean Court   105   68   7,140
Brentford   Gtech Community Stadium   105   68   7,140
Brighton and Hove Albion   Falmer Stadium   105   68   7,140
Burnley   Turf Moor   105   68   7,140
Chelsea   Stamford Bridge   103.3   67.7   6,993.41
Crystal Palace   Selhurst Park   101   68   6,868
Evetron   Goodison Park   100.48   68   6,832.64
Fulham   Craven Cottage   100   65   6,500
Liverpool   Anfield   101   68   6,868
Luton Town   Kenilworth Road   100.6   65.8   6,619
Manchester City   City of Manchester Stadium   105   68   7,140
Manchester United   Old Trafford   105   68   7,140
Newcastle United   St. James’ Park   105   68   7,140
Nottingham Forest   City Ground   105.2   71.3   7,500.76
Sheffield United   Bramall Lane   101   68   6,868
Tottenham Hotspur   Tottenham Hotspur Stadium   105   68   7,140
West Ham United   London Stadium   105   68   7,140
Wolverhampton Wanderers   Molineux Stadium   105   68   7,140

Who?

[Samie]

Megatron's idiot brother.

[SamLad]

Excited for this. Hope Jones comes back in.

Fyi If you never watched a game at Luton on TV before this camera it is a very low angle.

thanks for the tip.  I hate those low-angle views.

[naka]

should win this comfortably

Was accepting this earlier this week
But the closer I get 1-0 will suit
This will be tricky
They will see us as a big scalph

[MonsLibpool]

Was accepting this earlier this week
But the closer I get 1-0 will suit
This will be tricky
They will see us as a big scalph

They are gash and we should be beating them comfortably.  Even Chelsea turned them over 3-0.

[Wingman]

Has Paul Walsh had a mention yet? Tidy player he was, good looking lad, lovely hair too. I thought he was going to be perfect to take Kenny’s shirt and partner Rushy up front. Although i’d have preferred it to have been Laudrup.

He was alright for a while, scored a few, hair looked on point. Then we signed Beardsley - not so handsome and his hair cut was shocking, but what a player. Walsh went to Spurs (fell out with Kenny?) I think

[jillcwhomever]

Has Paul Walsh had a mention yet? Tidy player he was, good looking lad, lovely hair too. I thought he was going to be perfect to take Kenny’s shirt and partner Rushy up front. Although i’d have preferred it to have been Laudrup.

He was alright for a while, scored a few, hair looked on point. Then we signed Beardsley - not so handsome and his hair cut was shocking, but what a player. Walsh went to Spurs (fell out with Kenny?) I think

Paul Walsh is on the Preview show on LFCTV now, he looks well, him and McAteer are sharing memories.

[Dr. Beaker]

Has Paul Walsh had a mention yet? Tidy player he was, good looking lad, lovely hair too. I thought he was going to be perfect to take Kenny’s shirt and partner Rushy up front. Although i’d have preferred it to have been Laudrup.

He was alright for a while, scored a few, hair looked on point. Then we signed Beardsley - not so handsome and his hair cut was shocking, but what a player. Walsh went to Spurs (fell out with Kenny?) I think

Didn't he get injured (or a strong gust of wind fucked his hair up or something) just when he was playing his best stuff.

[Schmarn]

Great write-up. After all these years I still hate their plastic pitch. God knows how they ever got permission to install it. It gave them a ridiculous home advantage as the bounce and run of the ball was completely different. QPR, Oldham and Preston had one too I recall.

Fabulous chance for us to take points out of Spurs and Arsenal this week.

[HardworkDedication]

Our pitch is quite small. 

Team   Stadium   Length (Metres)   Width (Metres)   Area
(Metres)
Arsenal   Emirates Stadium   105   68   7,140
Aston Villa   Villa Park   105   68   7,140
Bournemouth   Dean Court   105   68   7,140
Brentford   Gtech Community Stadium   105   68   7,140
Brighton and Hove Albion   Falmer Stadium   105   68   7,140
Burnley   Turf Moor   105   68   7,140
Chelsea   Stamford Bridge   103.3   67.7   6,993.41
Crystal Palace   Selhurst Park   101   68   6,868
Evetron   Goodison Park   100.48   68   6,832.64
Fulham   Craven Cottage   100   65   6,500
Liverpool   Anfield   101   68   6,868
Luton Town   Kenilworth Road   100.6   65.8   6,619
Manchester City   City of Manchester Stadium   105   68   7,140
Manchester United   Old Trafford   105   68   7,140
Newcastle United   St. James’ Park   105   68   7,140
Nottingham Forest   City Ground   105.2   71.3   7,500.76
Sheffield United   Bramall Lane   101   68   6,868
Tottenham Hotspur   Tottenham Hotspur Stadium   105   68   7,140
West Ham United   London Stadium   105   68   7,140
Wolverhampton Wanderers   Molineux Stadium   105   68   7,140

How accurate is this. There is no way Bournemouth's pitch is the same size as the emirates, old trafford, st james park and the etihad.

[Ghost Town]

How accurate is this. There is no way Bournemouth's pitch is the same size as the emirates, old trafford, st james park and the etihad.

Why not? It's not any kind of function of wealth or success or club 'size' to have a standard size league pitch. All it needed was the space when the stadium was first built or, in the case of Dean Court, when the pitch was rotated when the ground was redeveloped in 2001.

Most UK pitches are now made to be 105 x 68, in new builds or redevelopments, as that's seen as the standard size

[HardworkDedication]

Why not? It's not any kind of function of wealth or success or club 'size' to have a standard size league pitch. All it needed was the space when the stadium was first built or, in the case of Dean Court, when the pitch was rotated when the ground was redeveloped in 2001.

Most UK pitches are now made to be 105 x 68, in new builds or redevelopments, as that's seen as the standard size

My opinion has nothing to do with the wealth of Bournemouth. Just looking at the pitch, it doesn't look as big as the pitches I mentioned.

[DangerScouse]

Megatron's idiot brother.

[RogerTheRed]

Come on Redmen!!
Thanks Dougle, great analysis of their current team. We look likely to be able to beat these and see ourselves closer to the top of the league by the end of this weekend. I think it will be a tricky first 20 min and then we go on to score two or three.

[Son of Spion]

How accurate is this. There is no way Bournemouth's pitch is the same size as the emirates, old trafford, st james park and the etihad.

Looking it up on a few different sites it appears to be correct. They do have a big pitch.

https://sqaf.club/premier-league-pitch-sizes/

The wiki for Dean Court (currently called the Vitality Stadium).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Court#England_under-20_games

[Caps4444]

Our pitch is quite small. 

Team   Stadium   Length (Metres)   Width (Metres)   Area
(Metres)
Arsenal   Emirates Stadium   105   68   7,140
Aston Villa   Villa Park   105   68   7,140
Bournemouth   Dean Court   105   68   7,140
Brentford   Gtech Community Stadium   105   68   7,140
Brighton and Hove Albion   Falmer Stadium   105   68   7,140
Burnley   Turf Moor   105   68   7,140
Chelsea   Stamford Bridge   103.3   67.7   6,993.41
Crystal Palace   Selhurst Park   101   68   6,868
Evetron   Goodison Park   100.48   68   6,832.64
Fulham   Craven Cottage   100   65   6,500
Liverpool   Anfield   101   68   6,868
Luton Town   Kenilworth Road   100.6   65.8   6,619
Manchester City   City of Manchester Stadium   105   68   7,140
Manchester United   Old Trafford   105   68   7,140
Newcastle United   St. James’ Park   105   68   7,140
Nottingham Forest   City Ground   105.2   71.3   7,500.76
Sheffield United   Bramall Lane   101   68   6,868
Tottenham Hotspur   Tottenham Hotspur Stadium   105   68   7,140
West Ham United   London Stadium   105   68   7,140
Wolverhampton Wanderers   Molineux Stadium   105   68   7,140

Is our pitch 4m shorter than most pitches…..that’s 2m each half…..that’s massive?

[Cafe De Paris]

Didn’t they demote Antony Taylor….. yet here he is watching over us.

[wah00ey]

Is our pitch 4m shorter than most pitches…..that’s 2m each half…..that’s massive?

Yep, that's one of the reasons they say we can't host Euro finals.  Convenient really...

[Kennys from heaven]

Has Paul Walsh had a mention yet? Tidy player he was, good looking lad, lovely hair too. I thought he was going to be perfect to take Kenny’s shirt and partner Rushy up front. Although i’d have preferred it to have been Laudrup.

He was alright for a while, scored a few, hair looked on point. Then we signed Beardsley - not so handsome and his hair cut was shocking, but what a player. Walsh went to Spurs (fell out with Kenny?) I think

Bloody hell. I remember buying newspapers every day when we were linked with Laudrup hoping that it came true. Was one of the only disappointments I’d ever had with Liverpool.

Luton are a physical side and I have always said the worse the team you’re playing against, the harder it is to get a result. A lot of times in any spoet but especially football, teams that are utter gash will completely disrupt how you want to play by being in the wrong place at the wrong time in regards to what you want to achieve. This is why I’m confident that we’ll win - we won’t won’t big, but we’ll win, as we’ve started to play what’s in front of us again rather than sticking to a plan and not having any plan b

[SamLad]

Bloody hell. I remember buying newspapers every day when we were linked with Laudrup hoping that it came true. Was one of the only disappointments I’d ever had with Liverpool.

Luton are a physical side and I have always said the worse the team you’re playing against, the harder it is to get a result. A lot of times in any spoet but especially football, teams that are utter gash will completely disrupt how you want to play by being in the wrong place at the wrong time in regards to what you want to achieve. This is why I’m confident that we’ll win - we won’t won’t big, but we’ll win, as we’ve started to play what’s in front of us again rather than sticking to a plan and not having any plan b

the inventiveness of this year's midfield (any of the combinations available) is a huge step forward from last year's.

[Cafe De Paris]

Wow I remember that game. I was in the main stand and we ended up about 10 rows down when the winner went in as we were next to the stairs.

God we were awful and apart from the Coca Cola cup win it was 10 years of grim having to watch to mancs win year on year.

[Ghost Town]

My opinion has nothing to do with the wealth of Bournemouth. Just looking at the pitch, it doesn't look as big as the pitches I mentioned.

Ok. In that case it's probably an optical illusion: as the stands are quite small it tricks the eye into thinking the pitch is quite small as well

By comparison the City Ground pitch has never looked relatively bigger to me yet it's comfortably the biggest in the PL

[David Struhme]

They're dreadful. Should be at least 4 or 5