Topic: UK GE and Local Elections, plus polls, and policy.

[Statto Red]

Drinking game for election night - every time time the Tories lose a seat, take a shot.

You'd be off your face within a few minutes once the results start coming in, plus you'd need a few bottles of shots ready too.

[red_Mark1980]

Drinking game for election night - every time time the Tories lose a seat, take a shot.

I remember watching it in 97 as a wide eyed young fella, just over a year from uni having believed my local labour mp telling us they had no plans to introduce university tuition fees. Those were the days.

[Red Beret]

Is this the Tories long term strategy? Do so bad, all your opponents supported drink themselves to death in celebration, paving the way for a comeback in 5 years. 

Yeah, I imagine a lot of people would be down with alcohol poisoning.

[TepidT2O]

It's just not happening.. they won 165 under Major in 1997.

But we can dream! We can dream!

Drinking game for election night - every time time the Tories lose a seat, take a shot.

Even in the best case scenario for the Tories, I’d be dead.

[lobsterboy]

October 31st has been rumoured for ages. Tory strategists think Labour voters will be too preoccupied with trick or treating and kids on Halloween to go out and vote.
Safe in the knowledge racist old pensioners will crawl over broken glass through a blizzard to put a cross next to some Tory c*nts name.

[TepidT2O]

October 31st has been rumoured for ages. Tory strategists think Labour voters will be too preoccupied with trick or treating and kids on Halloween to go out and vote.
Safe in the knowledge racist old pensioners will crawl over broken glass through a blizzard to put a cross next to some Tory c*nts name.

This would be great. It’s in half term and I could stay up and watch up their humiliation
They have humiliated this country, degraded us, dragged us in it the gutter.
I will glory in their defeat

[west_london_red]

October 31st has been rumoured for ages. Tory strategists think Labour voters will be too preoccupied with trick or treating and kids on Halloween to go out and vote.
Safe in the knowledge racist old pensioners will crawl over broken glass through a blizzard to put a cross next to some Tory c*nts name.

The fuckers better not, I’m in Mexico that week!

[reddebs]

Seems the Red Wall voters have turned to Reform for the GE when it happens or at least the Barnsley ones I know have.

[PaulF]

This would be great. It’s in half term and I could stay up and watch up their humiliation

They have humiliated this country, degraded us, dragged us in it the gutter.
I will glory in their defeat

I assume you mean the Tories, not your pupils?

[TepidT2O]

Hideous bigot George Galloway says that gay relationships aren’t normal and shouldn’t be taught in schools.

A racist bigot. And some on here still like him

[Red-Soldier]

Hideous bigot George Galloway says that gay relationships aren’t normal and shouldn’t be taught in schools.

A racist bigot. And some on here still like him

Do they? 

[TepidT2O]

Do they? 

Yep.

[red_Mark1980]

Hideous bigot George Galloway says that gay relationships aren’t normal and shouldn’t be taught in schools.

A racist bigot. And some on here still like him

He's not normal..and that's before you consider acting like a fucking cat on national TV with Dennis Watermans ex

[gazzalfc]

Yep.

He used Hillsborough as a way into dumping on the government and the media. Fuck him and his pointless crusade. No better than Laurence fox and those idiots

[Statto Red]

He used Hillsborough as a way into dumping on the government and the media. Fuck him and his pointless crusade. No better than Laurence fox and those idiots

Agreed, Galloway is the loony left version of Laurence Fox, complete vermin & opportunist, i expect him to lose his seat at the election, it was a Labour fuck up over vetting the candidates that let Galloway in.

[TepidT2O]

Agreed, Galloway is the loony left version of Laurence Fox, complete vermin & opportunist, i expect him to lose his seat at the election, it was a Labour fuck up over vetting the candidates that let Galloway in.

he is indeed. Supported Assad, Putin and protested outside schools in what we now know what his explicit homophobia.


Andrew Tate and George Galloway.  Two cheeks of the same arse?  Who knew?


How dare a man tell people their consensual relations aren’t normal.  A man who has had six kids by 4 wives

[TheShanklyGates]

Do they? 

Not that I've seen. I'm sure Tepid will be happy to share the names and posts of those who do though

[classycarra]

Not that I've seen. I'm sure Tepid will be happy to share the names and posts of those who do though

eight pages of various people kissing his arse and calling him George here

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=178233

[assuming there's no statute of limitations on your request ]

[TheShanklyGates]

eight pages of various people kissing his arse and calling him George here

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=178233

[assuming there's no statute of limitations on your request ]

2007

Deary me.

[Elmo!]

[assuming there's no statute of limitations on your request ]

Not a great assumption given Tepid's post claimed people still liked him. 

[Red Beret]

Just remembered that I got one of those mayoral election pamphlets through the post a week or two back. I never even bothered opening the thing. Felt it was a waste of money to even print them. I'll probably vote for the Green candidate for Mayor. The city needs some political diversity, and I'm not a huge fan of Rotheram.

[classycarra]

2007

Deary me.

Not a great assumption given Tepid's post claimed people still liked him. 

it's an obvious joke, relax and lighten up you two

since you're so intent on being literal Elmo, there's a post from 2 March 2024 with someone saying "I like him".

[Lusty]

October 31st has been rumoured for ages. Tory strategists think Labour voters will be too preoccupied with trick or treating and kids on Halloween to go out and vote.
Safe in the knowledge racist old pensioners will crawl over broken glass through a blizzard to put a cross next to some Tory c*nts name.

This is going to be a record year for boat crossings across the Summer so there's no way they'll leave it that long.  The sweet spot will be just after the first plane takes off so he can claim it works, but not so late that it's obvious it hasn't.

[Jiminy Cricket]

it's an obvious joke, relax and lighten up you two

since you're so intent on being literal Elmo, there's a post from 2 March 2024 with someone saying "I like him".

I THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT IT IS NOW MAY!

[red_Mark1980]

This is going to be a record year for boat crossings across the Summer so there's no way they'll leave it that long.  The sweet spot will be just after the first plane takes off so he can claim it works, but not so late that it's obvious it hasn't.

The think is the planes taking off don't prove anything. It's supposed to be a deterrent.

So you need to show the planes have a direct impact on the number of crossings.

Which they won't. Because going to Rwanda is not more of a deterrent than drowning in the fucking channel

[Lusty]

The think is the planes taking off don't prove anything. It's supposed to be a deterrent.

So you need to show the planes have a direct impact on the number of crossings.

Which they won't. Because going to Rwanda is not more of a deterrent than drowning in the fucking channel

Well we both know that none of this makes sense.  But Sunak is hoping that he can get a couple of photo ops of an asylum seeker being dragged onto a plane in handcuffs so he can look like he's tough on immigration to the electorate.  The whole point of the policy is not to solve anything, it's performance art.

By the time you get to October the fact that you've sent half a dozen immigrants to Rwanda is going to look stupid when you've had 60,000 boat crossings.  So he can't leave it that long.

[red_Mark1980]

Suppose. Gullis was already tweeting "it's working" when the first fella went to Rwanda (you know voluntary and with £3k in his sky rocket).

Optics.

[Lisan Al Gaib]

Suppose. Gullis was already tweeting "it's working" when the first fella went to Rwanda (you know voluntary and with £3k in his sky rocket).

Optics.

A Rwandan national as well its being rumoured. So a bloke from Rwanda has travelled here, claimed asylum, failed, been given £3k to go back home and will get his house and food paid for by the British government for the next 5 years!

[red_Mark1980]

A Rwandan national as well its being rumoured. So a bloke from Rwanda has travelled here, claimed asylum, failed, been given £3k to go back home and will get his house and food paid for by the British government for the next 5 years!

I'd not heard that. Fucking hell 😂

[fridgepants]

I'm in London, so trying to work out which of the various losers in the booklet of losers we've got through the post should get my vote for mayor.

Actually have no issue with Khan, and part of me thinks that I'm leaving in a few months anyway so my opinion doesn't really count for much, but it's interesting how many right-leaning candidates are going for either the 'everyone is getting stabbed all the time because of those there immigrants' angle or 'I promise to remove all restrictions on ULEZ etc so everyone can just drive everywhere they want to all the time'. Kind of revealing how most people (myself almost certainly included) will vote based on what gives them personally an easy life rather than looking at what would help everyone.

Did see Lee Anderson claim that anyone 'workshy' who doesn't do 40hrs a week like everyone else should leave the country too. I'm contracted to do 35hrs a week, so I do hope he'll let me know whether I should pack jumpers or swimwear.

[fridgepants]

Japan is one of the most indebted countries in the world, but their situation is slightly different in that a lot of that debt is owned by Japanese banks and investors so they have more control over it then most other countries where the debt is owned by foreign banks and institutions. And yes the EU countries benefit from having the Euro and sharing the currency risk across so many countries.

How do pensions etc work in Japan, given that the population is very weighted towards older people and they have much lower birthrates and immigration than Western countries? I feel like this is going to be a real issue in the UK in a few decades - fewer people owning homes that can be sold to fund social care, more people paying private rents into retirement which pensions are less likely to cover, fewer people having children for various reasons, restrictions on people coming into the UK and bringing family members.

[stewil007]

How do pensions etc work in Japan, given that the population is very weighted towards older people and they have much lower birthrates and immigration than Western countries? I feel like this is going to be a real issue in the UK in a few decades - fewer people owning homes that can be sold to fund social care, more people paying private rents into retirement which pensions are less likely to cover, fewer people having children for various reasons, restrictions on people coming into the UK and bringing family members.

I used to work for the defence company that had a japanese division and it was stipulated that any product procured by the japanese government had to be purchased from the uk site but sold in its constituent parts, to allow the company in Japan to put it together to ensure that japanese workers still had 'work' - even down to painting the colour codes on resistors.

That was apropos of nothing and doesn't answer your pension question but interesting (i think) nonetheless.

[Schmarn]

I'm in London, so trying to work out which of the various losers in the booklet of losers we've got through the post should get my vote for mayor.

Actually have no issue with Khan, and part of me thinks that I'm leaving in a few months anyway so my opinion doesn't really count for much, but it's interesting how many right-leaning candidates are going for either the 'everyone is getting stabbed all the time because of those there immigrants' angle or 'I promise to remove all restrictions on ULEZ etc so everyone can just drive everywhere they want to all the time'. Kind of revealing how most people (myself almost certainly included) will vote based on what gives them personally an easy life rather than looking at what would help everyone.

Did see Lee Anderson claim that anyone 'workshy' who doesn't do 40hrs a week like everyone else should leave the country too. I'm contracted to do 35hrs a week, so I do hope he'll let me know whether I should pack jumpers or swimwear.

Ever since the Tory government did away with preference voting, there are only two relevant candidates (Khan and Hall) and the rest are unfortunately just a protest vote.

If they deported all the workshy grifters that would be the core Brexit vote gone.  It's the great irony that those who complain most vociferously about foreigners taking all the jobs have no interest in doing those jobs, so now we have to pay additional costs for other foreign workers to carry on doing those jobs.

[Lusty]

Ever since the Tory government did away with preference voting, there are only two relevant candidates (Khan and Hall) and the rest are unfortunately just a protest vote.

If they deported all the workshy grifters that would be the core Brexit vote gone.  It's the great irony that those who complain most vociferously about foreigners taking all the jobs have no interest in doing those jobs, so now we have to pay additional costs for other foreign workers to carry on doing those jobs.

Susan Hall has to be one of the worst candidates ever put forward by a major party surely?  46% of Londoners think Khan is doing a bad job, but she's only polling at 25%.  Absolute open goal for the Tories and this is the best they could come up with.

Even Zac Goldsmith got 35% and he spent his spare time murdering stray cats.

[Lisan Al Gaib]

Susan Hall has to be one of the worst candidates ever put forward by a major party surely?  46% of Londoners think Khan is doing a bad job, but she's only polling at 25%.  Absolute open goal for the Tories and this is the best they could come up with.

Even Zac Goldsmith got 35% and he spent his spare time murdering stray cats.

Khan's had a tough job dealing with a hostile government so I think this is last chance for him and with an incoming friendly Labour government he really should be doing a better job. I don't think he runs for a 4th term though so we probably won't find out.

[west_london_red]

Susan Hall has to be one of the worst candidates ever put forward by a major party surely?  46% of Londoners think Khan is doing a bad job, but she's only polling at 25%.  Absolute open goal for the Tories and this is the best they could come up with.

Even Zac Goldsmith got 35% and he spent his spare time murdering stray cats.

I really hope Labour don’t allow Khan to stand after this election, racism definitely plays a part but he is as you say deeply unpopular even when the Party is polling so strongly.

[Kenny's Jacket]

I really hope Labour don’t allow Khan to stand after this election, racism definitely plays a part but he is as you say deeply unpopular even when the Party is polling so strongly.

47% of the vote is pretty decent

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49286-london-2024-mayoral-race-khan-47-hall-25

[Lusty]

47% of the vote is pretty decent

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49286-london-2024-mayoral-race-khan-47-hall-25

He's unpopular (as your link shows) but he's still polling with a 20+ point lead, which goes back to my original point about Susan Hall being a disaster.

[killer-heels]

Khan's had a tough job dealing with a hostile government so I think this is last chance for him and with an incoming friendly Labour government he really should be doing a better job. I don't think he runs for a 4th term though so we probably won't find out.

Absolutely. Khan hasnt been great but he will get a shot with the Labour government. He needs to deliver, but i dont think he is any good.

[PaulF]

I fear for the wrath of khan.