Author Topic: True Detective - HBO Drama (Read 158797 times)

Malaysian Kopite · « **Reply #120 on:** January 28, 2014, 09:45:28 am »

Quote from: Pistolero on January 28, 2014, 09:33:25 am

can people not just watch the story unfold rather than trying to second guess the next page?....

Come now, that's part of the fun.

'Mondzz' · « **Reply #121 on:** January 28, 2014, 10:34:12 am »

Finally got around to watching the 3 episodes last night, hooked!

Yiannis · « **Reply #122 on:** January 28, 2014, 11:56:29 am »

Excellent episode. Just excellent. All the impressive build up for the end with some top notch dialogues between those 2 again has me wanting for more. Both actors are doing a damn good job and you can see the chemistry between them.

thegoodfella · « **Reply #123 on:** January 28, 2014, 03:18:20 pm »

Quote from: Malaysian Kopite on January 28, 2014, 09:45:28 am

Come now, that's part of the fun.

I agree.

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I have to say that after Rust's exposition on the calm of death, I'm thinking maybe the women offered their lives as a sacrifice... just a feeling.

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Twelfth Man · « **Reply #124 on:** January 28, 2014, 05:24:29 pm »

Hearing a lot of good things about this series.

Schmidt · « **Reply #125 on:** January 28, 2014, 06:15:24 pm »

Quote from: thegoodfella on January 28, 2014, 03:18:20 pm

I agree.

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I have to say that after Rust's exposition on the calm of death, I'm thinking maybe the women offered their lives as a sacrifice... just a feeling.
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Yeah I don't see a problem with it, spoilers about rumoured story-lines for the following season or which actors have signed on are pretty annoying though.

Another really good episode, Rust has the more interesting dialogue but his partner seems like he'll develop more which should be interesting too. I thought the female characters were a little dull, the girls in episode two were more dysfunctional and interesting, instead of just the typical pretty girl seeking a boyfriend.

sideshowme · « **Reply #126 on:** January 28, 2014, 06:30:36 pm »

interesting to note that (according to IMDB) the writer has only two episodes of the 'the killing' to his name in terms of screenwriting credits prior to this show, but is an acclaimed and award-winning novelist. i think that really shows in the slow pace and focus on the characters' internal struggles, and even the way he uses a narrative device in the form of the running commentary by the future detectives to get inside their heads.

Henry Chinaski · « **Reply #127 on:** January 29, 2014, 01:05:44 am »

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Does anyone else also think Rust is right about everything? I mean, fuck, it's like this writer managed to express my darkest thoughts on existence in the most poetic way possible. Hints of Descartes, Camus and Schopenhauer as well.

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Fuck, this is good.

Yiannis · « **Reply #128 on:** January 29, 2014, 12:37:51 pm »

Quote from: Henry Chinaski on January 29, 2014, 01:05:44 am

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Does anyone else also think Rust is right about everything? I mean, fuck, it's like this writer managed to express my darkest thoughts on existence in the most poetic way possible. Hints of Descartes, Camus and Schopenhauer as well.
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Fuck, this is good.

Yup. I was thinking about that during the last episode. Agree with him on almost everything he has said already.

bobby19 · « **Reply #129 on:** January 29, 2014, 12:59:43 pm »

When's this start on sky ?!?

Geormajesty · « **Reply #130 on:** January 29, 2014, 03:57:10 pm »

Quote from: bobby19 on January 29, 2014, 12:59:43 pm

When's this start on sky ?!?

February 22nd at 9PM.

Redcap · « **Reply #131 on:** January 29, 2014, 04:41:24 pm »

No episode this Monday by the way. It's taking a week's break for some reason, I think the Superbowl?

Red_Irishman · « **Reply #132 on:** January 29, 2014, 04:42:45 pm »

Quote from: Redcap on January 29, 2014, 04:41:24 pm

No episode this Monday by the way. It's taking a week's break for some reason, I think the Superbowl?

For fucks sake.

SamAteTheRedAcid · « **Reply #133 on:** January 29, 2014, 05:26:54 pm »

Fuck off, really want to see the next episode, and American 'football' gets in the way.

Super Bowl my arse.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #134 on:** January 29, 2014, 06:06:52 pm »

Quote from: Henry Chinaski on January 29, 2014, 01:05:44 am

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Does anyone else also think Rust is right about everything? I mean, fuck, it's like this writer managed to express my darkest thoughts on existence in the most poetic way possible. Hints of Descartes, Camus and Schopenhauer as well.
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Fuck, this is good.

I don't. I can empathise with what he's saying, but I don't really agree with him either. He sounds like a man totally lost, or someone who has lost faith in people and in life. It's the ramblings of a broken man. Not unlike someone who is borderline suicidal and depressed.

Malaysian Kopite · « **Reply #135 on:** January 29, 2014, 06:28:38 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on January 29, 2014, 06:06:52 pm

I don't. I can empathise with what he's saying, but I don't really agree with him either. He sounds like a man totally lost, or someone who has lost faith in people and in life. It's the ramblings of a broken man. Not unlike someone who is borderline suicidal and depressed.

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It sets him up nicely as the killer in the new murder(s) but like Redcap I hope they don't go down that route because of how predictable it is.

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Melbred · « **Reply #136 on:** January 29, 2014, 06:47:57 pm »

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After the first episode I though Cohle may have been the real killer, but now I think it's pretty clear that it's a red herring. Would be far too cliche. Something happened back in '95 and I reckon there was a cover up, maybe due to some the politics.

Anyone clocked on to the fact that the interviews of Hart and Cohle are five days apart? I have a feeling that something bad might have happened to Cohle by the time Hart is interviewed. The way Hart speaks about him despite whatever happened between them is always respectful and almost how you'd talk about someone who has passed. And notice how when interviewing Cohle, it's always about the case, whereas when they interview Hart, it's always about Cohle.

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Or I could just be totally over-thinking it.

sideshowme · « **Reply #137 on:** January 29, 2014, 10:08:29 pm »

Quote from: Melbred on January 29, 2014, 06:47:57 pm

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After the first episode I though Cohle may have been the real killer, but now I think it's pretty clear that it's a red herring. Would be far too cliche. Something happened back in '95 and I reckon there was a cover up, maybe due to some the politics.

Anyone clocked on to the fact that the interviews of Hart and Cohle are five days apart? I have a feeling that something bad might have happened to Cohle by the time Hart is interviewed. The way Hart speaks about him despite whatever happened between them is always respectful and almost how you'd talk about someone who has passed. And notice how when interviewing Cohle, it's always about the case, whereas when they interview Hart, it's always about Cohle.
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Or I could just be totally over-thinking it.

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interesting. where do you get the dates from?

i'm not sure i'd read too much into what each of them talks about; it's clear that cohle is (and was) more open with his thoughts and feelings than the uptight hart, so it's as much a character thing as anything.

the interviewers (and hart) also seem to revere cohle as some kind of legendary yoda-like detective guru whereas hart is seen as a plodding, insensitive and now potentially racist sideshow.

some really interesting dynamics going on though, for sure.

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Melbred · « **Reply #138 on:** January 29, 2014, 10:24:49 pm »

Quote from: sideshowme on January 29, 2014, 10:08:29 pm

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interesting. where do you get the dates from?

i'm not sure i'd read too much into what each of them talks about; it's clear that cohle is (and was) more open with his thoughts and feelings than the uptight hart, so it's as much a character thing as anything.

the interviewers (and hart) also seem to revere cohle as some kind of legendary yoda-like detective guru whereas hart is seen as a plodding, insensitive and now potentially racist sideshow.

some really interesting dynamics going on though, for sure.
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In the first episode.

Hart is interviewed on 1st May 2012 and Cohle is interviewed on the 26 April 2012.

Yeah, I'm probably reading too much into it, but it's hard not to when the show is so ambiguous and seemingly drops you so many little clues/red herrings!

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robertobaggio37 · « **Reply #139 on:** January 30, 2014, 12:04:28 am »

Fucking brilliant show!

Redcap · « **Reply #140 on:** January 30, 2014, 12:05:26 am »

Quote from: Melbred on January 29, 2014, 06:47:57 pm

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After the first episode I though Cohle may have been the real killer, but now I think it's pretty clear that it's a red herring. Would be far too cliche. Something happened back in '95 and I reckon there was a cover up, maybe due to some the politics.

Anyone clocked on to the fact that the interviews of Hart and Cohle are five days apart? I have a feeling that something bad might have happened to Cohle by the time Hart is interviewed. The way Hart speaks about him despite whatever happened between them is always respectful and almost how you'd talk about someone who has passed. And notice how when interviewing Cohle, it's always about the case, whereas when they interview Hart, it's always about Cohle.
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Or I could just be totally over-thinking it.

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I like the theory and I think there might be something to it. Having the two interviews 5 days apart definitely means something anyway. What's clear is that the two new detectives have some level of interest in Cohle beyond what they're letting on so far.

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Dan Dando · « **Reply #141 on:** January 31, 2014, 04:26:58 pm »

Hey, guys. New to the forum, been a long-time onlooker from afar and thought I'd sign up and say hello - mainly because of this Media and Arts section. I feel like my sanity is safer here

Anyhow, I'm really enjoying True Detective. Although I'm devastated right now as I marathon'd all three episodes and then found out about the two week break before the next episode (sad sigh) - I found this little interview with the writer/creator to be quite interesting, and I wondered whether anyone has read his novel 'Galveston'?

http://litreactor.com/interviews/10-questions-with-true-detective-creator-nic-pizzolatto

Also, I need to know that I'm not alone in thinking that Rust Cohle's blazers are very nifty looking? Especially this one.

http://i.lv3.hbo.com/assets/images/series/true-detective/home/130905-true-detective-900.jpg

'Mondzz' · « **Reply #142 on:** January 31, 2014, 04:27:53 pm »

Quote from: Dan Dando on January 31, 2014, 04:26:58 pm

Hey, guys. New to the forum, been a long-time onlooker from afar and thought I'd sign up and say hello - mainly because of this Media and Arts section. I feel like my sanity is safer here

Anyhow, I'm really enjoying True Detective. Although I'm devastated right now as I marathon'd all three episodes and then found out about the two week break before the next episode (sad sigh) - I found this little interview with the writer/creator to be quite interesting, and I wondered whether anyone has read his novel 'Galveston'?

http://litreactor.com/interviews/10-questions-with-true-detective-creator-nic-pizzolatto

Also, I need to know that I'm not alone in thinking that Rust Cohle's blazers are very nifty looking? Especially this one.

http://i.lv3.hbo.com/assets/images/series/true-detective/home/130905-true-detective-900.jpg

Theres a 2 week break?? Shiiiit. Been counting down the days until my fix on monday.

Dan Dando · « **Reply #143 on:** February 2, 2014, 12:59:14 am »

Yeah, I'm a bit gutted too. Next episode will be on... 9th February - (goes into hibernation)

Twelfth Man · « **Reply #144 on:** February 2, 2014, 01:16:48 am »

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That monologue at the end of episode three, up there with Rutger Hauer in Bladerunner. Maybe I'm overcooking it a bit, but what a compelling character.

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brownie 09 · « **Reply #145 on:** February 2, 2014, 01:33:37 am »

I like rust, what he says I find myself relating to and agreeing with... Not sure what that says about me to be honest haha

Lawnmowerman · « **Reply #146 on:** February 2, 2014, 12:12:26 pm »

Damn Superbowl

Fordy · « **Reply #147 on:** February 2, 2014, 05:14:19 pm »

When's it on Sky in the UK?

Lastrador · « **Reply #148 on:** February 2, 2014, 05:18:24 pm »

Really fuck off super bowl.

Pistolero · « **Reply #149 on:** February 2, 2014, 05:29:23 pm »

Quote from: brownie 09 on February 2, 2014, 01:33:37 am

I like rust, what he says I find myself relating to and agreeing with... Not sure what that says about me to be honest haha

haha...thought it was just me!

brownie 09 · « **Reply #150 on:** February 2, 2014, 09:48:00 pm »

Quote from: Pistolero on February 2, 2014, 05:29:23 pm

haha...thought it was just me!

haha probably find out he's a full blown axe wielding psychopath. But he's still relatable.

Redcap · « **Reply #151 on:** February 3, 2014, 01:13:53 am »

Quote from: Pistolero on February 2, 2014, 05:29:23 pm

haha...thought it was just me!

Relatable including to the episode 3 monologue? Because I found him more or less relatable until that point. Then I found my empathy turned to sympathy.

N-Red · « **Reply #152 on:** February 3, 2014, 01:09:21 pm »

Quote from: Twelfth Man on February 2, 2014, 01:16:48 am

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That monologue at the end of episode three, up there with Rutger Hauer in Bladerunner. Maybe I'm overcooking it a bit, but what a compelling character.
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Yep i thought it was great. You could see the look of dread on his face, the scene it cut too after was perfect.

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"Like most dreams, there's a monster at the end of it"

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saoirse08 · « **Reply #153 on:** February 4, 2014, 11:27:43 am »

Dark as fuck!

Feels like I'm in The Heart of Darkness with Rust Cohle.

Thanks to all for recommending this. Utterly compelling, yet not a great deal has happened in the two episodes I've seen so far. Think it's all to do with the southern gothic atmosphere of the piece & is a brilliant character study, thus far, rather than a relentless thriller.

The performance by McConaughey is quite brilliant. His character then & now, although altered in many ways, still feels like that same character, but significantly more... and drinking with gay abandon, too. He is
mesmerizing. I could listen to that voice just telling the story while staring into the video camera. In his earlier carnation, however, he is like some dark, sleepless soul striding the immense Louisiana landscape.

Woody Harrelson is great too. On the surface, genial and easy going, yet a hypocrite spouting spurious family values...The domestic scenes with Michelle Monaghan are really well observed. The scene at the dinner
table when Rust comes to dinner is just superb.

Really looking forward to watching the next one later this week.

Btw, I shuddered when Rustin said: “I’m police. I can do terrible things to people with impunity.” Too many people know that truth. Dialogue is fucking immense throughout.

Agger · « **Reply #154 on:** February 4, 2014, 10:16:36 pm »

The daughter's starting to freak me out...

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Red_Irishman · « **Reply #155 on:** February 4, 2014, 10:19:20 pm »

Quote from: Agger on February 4, 2014, 10:16:36 pm

The daughter's starting to freak me out...

Not being smart but whats that supposed to be?

Agger · « **Reply #156 on:** February 4, 2014, 10:38:41 pm »

Quote from: Red_Irishman on February 4, 2014, 10:19:20 pm

Not being smart but whats that supposed to be?

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Similar to the spiral thing that's connected to the murders.

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Walk On · « **Reply #157 on:** February 5, 2014, 03:42:28 pm »

Quote from: Fordy on February 2, 2014, 05:14:19 pm

When's it on Sky in the UK?

Saw some ads saying the 22nd of Feb.
Sky Atlantic me thinks...

saoirse08 · « **Reply #158 on:** February 6, 2014, 03:06:52 pm »

The darkness continues. Wow! what a brilliant ending.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOGoX1B6_2k

This is absolutely brilliant TV. Wouldn't work as a movie. Love the languid pace of it all. Feel like I know all of the characters. Even the females, with all their obvious frustrations.

Looking forward to episode 4.

red mongoose · « **Reply #159 on:** February 6, 2014, 03:27:59 pm »

Quote from: saoirse08 on February 4, 2014, 11:27:43 am

Dark as fuck!

Feels like I'm in The Heart of Darkness with Rust Cohle.

Thanks to all for recommending this. Utterly compelling, yet not a great deal has happened in the two episodes I've seen so far. Think it's all to do with the southern gothic atmosphere of the piece & is a brilliant character study, thus far, rather than a relentless thriller.

The performance by McConaughey is quite brilliant. His character then & now, although altered in many ways, still feels like that same character, but significantly more... and drinking with gay abandon, too. He is
mesmerizing. I could listen to that voice just telling the story while staring into the video camera. In his earlier carnation, however, he is like some dark, sleepless soul striding the immense Louisiana landscape.

Woody Harrelson is great too. On the surface, genial and easy going, yet a hypocrite spouting spurious family values...The domestic scenes with Michelle Monaghan are really well observed. The scene at the dinner
table when Rust comes to dinner is just superb.

Really looking forward to watching the next one later this week.

Btw, I shuddered when Rustin said: “I’m police. I can do terrible things to people with impunity.” Too many people know that truth. Dialogue is fucking immense throughout.

Great post and I agree. One of my favorite films ever is "Angel Heart," which is also largely set in Louisiana and has that same atmosphere of voodoo and foreboding. The other thing I like about this show is that you can almost feel the shadow of Hurricane Katrina hanging over the whole piece, or at least I feel that way - every lake or bit of water they show, I'm thinking "This is all going to be wiped away and drowned in about 10 years." Adds to the gloom. Fantastic show. If I'm not mistaken, HBO got a new head executive fairly recently and it's good to see them continuing the high quality of these Sunday institutions. Sometimes a shake-up in the boardroom can really fuck with a network's output.