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MATCH PREVIEW – West Ham Utd vs Liverpool

Date: Sunday 7 November 2021

Kick Off/TV 4.30pm, Sky Sports

Officials

Referee: Craig Pawson
Assistants: Lee Betts, Adam Nunn
Fourth Official: Andre Marriner
VAR Official: Stuart Attwell
Assistant VAR Official: Constantine Hatzidakis

Premier League Form Guide

Liverpool - WDDWWD
West Ham - LWLWWW

Recent Meetings

31/01/2021 – West Ham 1-3 Liverpool
31/10/2020 - Liverpool 2-1 West Ham
24/02/2020 – Liverpool 3-2 West Ham
29/01/2020 - West Ham 0-2 Liverpool

Some History

I chose this write-up as West Ham played a part in my earliest memories of football. Growing up in Southend-on-Sea, West Ham were the closest big team with significant support, as former Eastenders traded up after the war and spread out along the Essex estuary. The first Cup final I remember was 1980, West Ham v Arsenal, and our street was mostly decked in claret and blue. The West Ham team at that time, while not as illustrious as the 1960s sides, had a number of class footballers. Phil Parkes, Billy Bonds, Alan Devonshire, Geoff Pike and of course MOTD’s finest, Trevor Brooking. West Ham won 1-0 with a stooping Brooking header but the game is best remembered for the most cynical professional foul I’ve ever seen which makes this past weekend’s red cards seem trifling by comparison. Youtube “Willie Young and Paul Allen” if you haven’t seen it.

Liverpool met West Ham in two finals in that period. The Charity Shield in 1980 and the League (Milk) Cup Final in 1981. Liverpool won both but needed a replay to win the League Cup after a dramatic first tie saw a late Alan Kennedy goal in extra time cancelled out by a Ray Stewart equaliser in the 120th minute. In more recent years there was of course the 2006 FA Cup Final and the Gerrard goal followed by a diabolical penalty shoot-out, with Liverpool taking the trophy home that day.

West Ham have also had a habit of tripping up that lot down the East Lancs Road in title run-ins. In a period when we were miles away from competing for titles, what little pleasure we had was gleaned from Man Utd being denied. An already relegated West Ham side defeated Man Utd 1-0 to hand the title to Leeds in 1992 - the final year before the League became the Premier League - and a fighting 1-1 draw with Man Utd on the final day in 1995 helped Kenny’s Blackburn team win the title despite losing at a mentally conflicted Anfield.

Match Preview

On to the present season and West Ham have continued their tradition of trying to play football rather than resorting to the nihilistic bus-parking tactics of many mid and lower table teams. They currently sit 4th in the table and have a durable back line, a teak tough midfield base in Rice and Soucek, a creative midfield sparked by Benrahma, Fornals and Bowen and a striker who seems to enjoy playing the game in Michail Antonio. Playing at home, the Hammers are likely to try to take the game to us and we will hopefully have ironed out (pardon the pun) the weaknesses in our structure apparent in this weekend’s 2-2 draw with Brighton. West Ham can both play the ball through midfield or go long to Antonio so we’ll need to be on our mettle to win.

There has been much hand-wringing in the past few days over the surrender of a 2 goal lead against Brighton and the earlier draw against Brentford. We should however remember that Jurgen and the boys have an uncanny habit of reacting to disappointing results by going on a run of wins and the performance against Atletico was just what the doctor ordered in terms of settling nerves with the return of Fabinho instantly making us much harder to break down. No one wants to go into an international break having to digest a loss or a draw so I expect to see a sharp performance from the boys on Sunday.

Possible Line-up

This is a must-win game (inasmuch as any league game is) and with an international break to follow, we surely go strong. Assuming no late injury news, we may see Konate ahead of Matip so as not to overwork Joel and also because Ibou is better equipped to wrestle Antonio. Otherwise the back 4 picks itself. Fab and Hendo start if fit and it’s between Thiago, Ox and Curtis depending on fitness. A shout-out to Ox who had a nice game I thought against Atletico. Front 3, Jota starts with Bobby now out with a hamstring issue.

Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Konate, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Henderson, Jones, Mane, Jota, Salah.

I’ll say 2-1 to the Reds and 3 points.

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Re: PL: West Ham vs Liverpool
« Reply #1 on: November 7, 2021, 03:35:25 pm »
« Last Edit: November 7, 2021, 03:46:34 pm by TepidT2O »
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Re: PL: West Ham vs Liverpool
« Reply #2 on: November 7, 2021, 04:29:26 pm »
The last post played before kick off….
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Re: PL: West Ham vs Liverpool
« Reply #3 on: November 7, 2021, 04:31:48 pm »
0 we’re underway

The reds wearing their Ercu away strip again.
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Re: PL: West Ham vs Liverpool
« Reply #4 on: November 7, 2021, 04:33:32 pm »
2 early attack from the reds.  Mane runs at their defence and feeds Robbo down the left, his cut back doesn’t find our player.
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Re: PL: West Ham vs Liverpool
« Reply #5 on: November 7, 2021, 04:35:31 pm »
3 a very similar move again and once again the cut back finds a West Ham shirt.


West Ham up the other end and they win a corner.



And it goes straight in at the back post.


1-0.

Alisson was sandwiched by two West Ham players but should have met it.
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Re: PL: West Ham vs Liverpool
« Reply #6 on: November 7, 2021, 04:36:09 pm »
It’s a foul, he’s elbowed in the face

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Re: PL: West Ham vs Liverpool
« Reply #7 on: November 7, 2021, 04:36:35 pm »
The west Ham players arms pushes Alison’s arms out of the way.

Not a foul according to VAR.  OK…
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Re: PL: West Ham vs Liverpool
« Reply #8 on: November 7, 2021, 04:37:16 pm »
Absolute joke

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Re: PL: West Ham vs Liverpool
« Reply #9 on: November 7, 2021, 04:37:25 pm »
The other way around, its not given. But this has come from careless play by us.
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #10 on: November 7, 2021, 04:37:44 pm »
It’s a foul, he’s elbowed in the face
He missed the ball because the West Ham player pushed his hands out of the way. 
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #11 on: November 7, 2021, 04:38:21 pm »
He missed the ball because the West Ham player pushed his hands out of the way.
Yeah, it’s ridiculous to be honest.

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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #12 on: November 7, 2021, 04:39:15 pm »
Referee is abysmal. That’s a shocking tackle.

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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #13 on: November 7, 2021, 04:39:28 pm »
8 Henderson down after a dreadful foul

 The ref gives absolutely nothing

The VAR gives nothing… wow
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #14 on: November 7, 2021, 04:39:38 pm »
The referee is disgusting.
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #15 on: November 7, 2021, 04:40:08 pm »
Might as well go home.

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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #16 on: November 7, 2021, 04:41:59 pm »
10 Henderson is back up (no thanks to the ref.)

Need to use the anger to get even.

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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #17 on: November 7, 2021, 04:43:47 pm »
Ref knows he’s got everything wrong, he’s given us everything now in non dangerous positions

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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #18 on: November 7, 2021, 04:44:17 pm »
12 free kick to us 30 yards out. Johnson through the back of Mane as he brought the ball down.

Wasted.
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #19 on: November 7, 2021, 04:45:18 pm »
We are very one paced so far.
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #20 on: November 7, 2021, 04:45:44 pm »
What an absolute fucking joke. I guess VAR was bound to fuck us eventually.

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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #21 on: November 7, 2021, 04:46:13 pm »
14 corner to the reds.

Oh no it isn’t, the refs got it wrong yet again.


Ball over the top to Mo into the area, beats the first man, but the second one gets a toe in.  Good area to exploit that
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #22 on: November 7, 2021, 04:46:22 pm »
Over to Jill.
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #23 on: November 7, 2021, 04:46:27 pm »
Well that's the set the tone for the game, VAR and the ref fucking us constantly.

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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #24 on: November 7, 2021, 04:47:35 pm »
16 Game has stopped with a West Ham player getting treated. Game resumed.
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #25 on: November 7, 2021, 04:49:11 pm »
17 Looks like Dawson is coming on.
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #26 on: November 7, 2021, 04:51:05 pm »
Who is on VAR?

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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #27 on: November 7, 2021, 04:51:48 pm »
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #28 on: November 7, 2021, 04:52:08 pm »
19 This game is a mess Jota has jumped for a ball with Ogbonna and they clash. Jota knew nothing about it.
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #29 on: November 7, 2021, 04:54:23 pm »
22 We break after some messy play, but Robertson's attempted cross is awful and goes out.
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« Reply #30 on: November 7, 2021, 04:55:52 pm »
23 We try to attack again, but we are getting nowhere fast at the moment, everything is so slow at the moment.
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #31 on: November 7, 2021, 04:56:54 pm »
David Moyes?
Probably not a million miles away

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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #32 on: November 7, 2021, 04:57:49 pm »
24 Some good play between Henderson, Trent and Salah ends up with a corner. But the corner is cleared, West Ham attack, but Salah brilliantly manages to to pass back to Fab who is then fouled.
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #33 on: November 7, 2021, 04:59:34 pm »
Thank god Thiago is back, he’ll be needed sooner rather than later.

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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #34 on: November 7, 2021, 04:59:39 pm »
27 We get a throw in on the left, but West Ham at the moment are getting everyone back and we are forced back rather than forward.
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #35 on: November 7, 2021, 05:00:49 pm »
Perfect for Moyes this.

Early goal, push your 5 in midfield  right in front of your back four and try and hot on the break
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #36 on: November 7, 2021, 05:01:40 pm »
29 We try and work the ball forward from the left, but West Ham are very quick to defend the ball nick it back.
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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #37 on: November 7, 2021, 05:03:06 pm »
30 We are getting a lot of possession without really find a way through. We just need to up the pace.

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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #38 on: November 7, 2021, 05:03:06 pm »
29 We try and work the ball forward from the left, but West Ham are very quick to defend the ball nick it back.
It’s the old 1990s Man City formation.

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Re: PL: West Ham 1 vs 0 Liverpool Fornals 5’
« Reply #39 on: November 7, 2021, 05:05:02 pm »
32 Push on Fab, free kick to us on the corner of the box. Ref has literally given us everything since the first two shambolic decisions. Guilty conscience maybe. Free kick comes to nothing, it was perfect for an inswinger so we decide to outswing it and they head it away.