Topic: Louis Van Gaal was the Manager of Mourinho United

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

We have seen teams start like city before its a long long way from over, does anyone else give these twats (united)  a realistic chance?

What..title?

Hell no. They're in the same boat as us, just with better seats. 

[The G in Gerrard]

We have seen teams start like city before its a long long way from over, does anyone else give these twats (united)  a realistic chance?

No. Swansea have shown and other decent sides will do well against them.

[Crosby Nick]

Just saying

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The Norwegian Henry.

[TheRevanchist]

Saw Martials goal again on MOTD after two weeks of being compared to Henry its ridiculous how similar to him that goal was.

Yep, Le Tallec's goal was brilliant, yesterday.

His debute reminded me so much of Rooney's debute for us 11 years ago.

[Hazell]

Just saying

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Loved that goal. Unlike Skrtel, I think Colin Cooper would have dealt easily with Martial yesterday.

[the good half]

God we really gave United a great day out.
It's almost as if LIVERPOOL were in on the bloody act.
DeGea, Martial...what a team to face in your first outings.
Rodgers probably paid for the wine too

[Cantona]

Can't believe some think it's better than Benteke's though

Benteke's should have been disallowed for dangerous high feet.

[Rush 82]

Good news, apparently Robot Man is going to sign a new contract - good, good

[Crosby Nick]

Benteke's should have been disallowed for dangerous high feet.

You've been used to seeing players trying to chest it in from there for too long.

[Cantona]

My mate who's a match going Manc texted at half time to say how unimpressed he was and all around him people were on the verge of turning on Van Gaal. If beating us make you think it's all rosy good on you.

I think you'll actually do ok in Europe because he's obsessed with controlling games but hardly think you're in for a stellar season.

I've heard worse stuff said by randoms about proper club legends in the past at OT so maybe your mate is unimpressed and that's up to him. On the whole the fans are well behind Louis though and aren't on the verge of turning on him, that's just bullshit.

Agree we'll do well in cup comps with Louis, he's a great tactician and a big game manager.

[C]

people still not wanting to believe Martial is going to be a top striker, our problems are alot bigger than Man Utd having a wonderkid.

[Crosby Nick]

I've heard worse stuff said by randoms about proper club legends in the past at OT so maybe your mate is unimpressed and that's up to him. On the whole the fans are well behind Louis though and aren't on the verge of turning on him, that's just bullshit.

Agree we'll do well in cup comps with Louis, he's a great tactician and a big game manager.

Must just be him:

One of the worst halves of United - Liverpool I've ever had the displeasure to watch. I can't remember both of us being as poor at the same time ever. We're fucking dismal and one reason stands out. We don't have a centre forward on the pitch. And why, because Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal decided to ship out Falcao, RVP, Hernandez, Januzaj and Wilson. The mind boggles at the sheer ineptitude of Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal. The crowd around me are turning here. We're watching dire football and is this really what we can expect from a year of bedding in and adhering to Van Gaals "philosophy" It's pathetic

[C]

Benteke's should have been disallowed for dangerous high feet.

and Rooney's against City should have been disallowed for dangerous high shin.

[The G in Gerrard]

I've heard worse stuff said by randoms about proper club legends in the past at OT so maybe your mate is unimpressed and that's up to him. On the whole the fans are well behind Louis though and aren't on the verge of turning on him, that's just bullshit.

Agree we'll do well in cup comps with Louis, he's a great tactician and a big game manager.

In cups? Last season he didn't. Think you may qualify out of group stages in Europe and that's it.

[Michel]

I've heard worse stuff said by randoms about proper club legends in the past at OT so maybe your mate is unimpressed and that's up to him. On the whole the fans are well behind Louis though and aren't on the verge of turning on him, that's just bullshit.

Agree we'll do well in cup comps with Louis, he's a great tactician and a big game manager.

As  far as you avoid MK Dons.

[NealFrom25Yards]

We have seen teams start like city before its a long long way from over, does anyone else give these twats (united)  a realistic chance?

No.

They've got a very solid base - for me the best in the league -  but nowhere near enough in attack. They just won't score enough goals to come close to winning the title.

Mata's very good, but limited. Depay looks talented, but also looks like he'll take a while to find consistency. Don't know enough about Martial to comment. Beyond them, the rest of their attacking options are Europa League tier - including Rooney.

Shaw's been their most dynamic, consistent attacking option so far this season. When a full back is your most exciting player, you're probably not winning anything.

[Cattive Maniere]

Benteke's should have been disallowed for dangerous high feet.

someone could've been killed

[Cantona]

What..title?

Hell no. They're in the same boat as us, just with better seats.

Yes we're all in the Premier-ship, it's never docked in Liverpool and won't be anytime soon.

[Crosby Nick]

Yes we're all in the Premier-ship, it's never docked in Liverpool and won't be anytime soon.

Would be a good line had they not changed the name about 10 years ago!

[XabiAlonsosBeard]

Would be a good line had they not changed the name about 10 years ago!

Nope. Still a shit joke 10 years ago.

[Fiasco]

Yes we're all in the Premier-ship, it's never docked in Liverpool and won't be anytime soon.

Yes, because football was invented in 1992. I Completely forgot about that.

[Crosby Nick]

Nope. Still a shit joke 10 years ago.

Fair point!

[King_doggerel]

Sometimes I hate the media.

I recall this guy also being tagged as 'the next henry' and did this on his debut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH-tqGd9NUw

It worked out so well with him afterwards didn't it?

He is still any MARSHALL to me.

[Pelé as a Comedian]

We controlled that game from start to finish and once Blind's goal forced you to abandon the bus and come out and play I knew we'd stick 3 past you.

Do some of you seriously believe there isn't much between the two sides?
For me the difference is marked.

hard to say now that DeGea is back in the fold, for however long.
had you lost him the difference wouldnt be much at all.
you have a better defence and midfield maybe but only two strikers, both with question marks hanging over them currently.

where are the goals going to come from for you ?

congrats with the victory but the first half was turgid from both sides and you needed a set piece, penalty on a silver platter from young Gomez and super subs Young and Martial to get you there. have fun watching Rooney and Fellaini huff and puff for your lot this season.

[Smudgester]

Benteke's should have been disallowed for dangerous high feet.

Fellaini was offside for your 1st and 3rd

Oh, and what's going on, you're not 2nd anymore??

[KennyDaggers]

We can't put them away.  That's the difference. Big difference though really.

Our problems run much deeper than this. They are a much better side than us now and there's much better sides in the league than them which indicates how far we have fallen. It is deeply worrying as there's very little to cling on to at the moment.

For the record...
Benteke's goal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Rooneys miss kick.


Just imagine Wazza <throws up> had scored that goal. It would now be accepted the greatest goal in the history of the game.

[KennyDaggers]

When a full back is your most exciting player, you're probably not winning anything.

Aka Leighton Baines.

Winners without actually winning.

[Miltonred]

Fair do's, I think it's hard to justify saying we have a better or equal group of players to them after that on Saturday, but let's let them get carried away about how brilliant they are and how Tony Marshall is the new Lionel Henry, it'll be all the better to see that particular ship flounder in a few weeks.

[Wallingtonian]

I honesty can't understand why they are under so much pressure. They barely got out of 1st gear and they beat us comfortably. 1st half, they had the game completely under control but it's hard to create much playing against a team who is parking the bus. They remained patient and they got their breakthrough and it was pretty much done after that.

Think they will comfortably finish 2nd this season.

Hard to create much perhaps, but they didn't create anything - absolutely zero - in the first half. They also only "got their breakthrough" when the referee gave a generous foul when it could easily have gone the other way. Cue a rolled pass, shot and goal - their first shot on target and they still hadn't created any chances.

Then they get a soft penalty from a rash challenge by a kid. Free potshot from 12 yards, their second shot on target and still no chances created.

The third goal would never have been scored if their player wasn't up against a lazy coward like Skrtel, who backs off and backs off and doesn't seem to know how to tackle. So they get a third goal with the first chance they created all match close to the end of the ninety minutes.

It's worth remembering that, poor as Liverpool were, they did actually create chances, the Man U goalkeeper had to make genuine saves while Mignolet didn't and Liverpool did have more shots in target - 4 to their 3 (one a teed-up free kick and another a penalty).

Also Benteke scored a wonder goal, a moment of true class in a very mediocre game otherwise lacking any real quality. It's a goal that's already a contender for goal of the season - I can't imagine a better one being scored. But as someone already said, some people are laughably saying Martial's goal was better - complete madness of course. And it's also true that if Rooney had scored it, it would have been shown every five minutes on Sky Sports News for a week and would have been declared the greatest goal ever.

So after a sterile, pedestrian performance against a stuttering Liverpool with at least three certain starters unavailable you conclude that they easily finish second this season. If that's true the premier league is in truly dire shape. They're predictable, one-dimensional, lack creativity, are boring to watch and have no goal scorers. Let's revisit this at the end of the season, but my guess is they'll be about 6th - 5th if anyone implodes.

[Wallingtonian]

We have seen teams start like city before its a long long way from over, does anyone else give these twats (united)  a realistic chance?

Not while I've got a hole in my arse. They're awful

[CrasherKid79]

people still not wanting to believe Martial is going to be a top striker, our problems are alot bigger than Man Utd having a wonderkid.

Another wonderkid? Januzai was the next Ronaldo blah, blah blah

[The North Bank]

Does Skrtel get an assist for the Martial goal?,laid it for him on a plate, and Martin Tyler called it a better goal than Bentekes , mental . That was goal of the season, perfect overhead kick. It won't be topped.
United are decent enough to finish top 4 again, but any team that can pass the ball and deal with fellaini and the long balls would deal with them easily. I think they'll get 4th or possibly third if chelsea keep imploding. Their next inept performance is always round the corner, Liverpool just didn't turn up.

[swoopy]

hat was goal of the season, perfect overhead kick. It won't be topped.

Nothing is better than ROOONNNEEEYYYYYSSS shinned volley. Ever.

[killer-heels]

Martin Tyler's moment was a joke. I never really cared too much about what pundits and commentators said as I normally just watch the game and avoid pretty much all the pre and post match analysis but recently Neville's lack of knowledge and Tyler's celebration on Saturday really pissed me off.

He then made it worse by claiming Martial's goal was better. Really Martin? Really?

[G1-tiga]

Martin Tyler's moment was a joke. I never really cared too much about what pundits and commentators said as I normally just watch the game and avoid pretty much all the pre and post match analysis but recently Neville's lack of knowledge and Tyler's celebration on Saturday really pissed me off.

He then made it worse by claiming Martial's goal was better. Really Martin? Really?

It was bizarre. It's more the fact that they hardly reacted to Benteke's goal, said it was a lovely finish while sounding like they were reading their own death warrant, to celebrating an admittedly very well taken goal like that death warrant has just been revoked. I understand Neville, he hates us and that is fine as he has reason to. Though Tyler, in my opinion, was slightly out of order in terms of professionalism and broadcasting neutrality.

It does not excuse Saturday's performance but it really irritated me as well.

[TheRevanchist]

It was bizarre. It's more the fact that they hardly reacted to Benteke's goal, said it was a lovely finish while sounding like they were reading their own death warrant, to celebrating an admittedly very well taken goal like that death warrant has just been revoked. I understand Neville, he hates us and that is fine as he has reason to. Though Tyler, in my opinion, was slightly out of order in terms of professionalism and broadcasting neutrality.

It does not excuse Saturday's performance but it really irritated me as well.

Tyler celebrates like that many times, and also for other teams. For those who think that he's a United fan and biased toward us, didn't he do the 'Agueroooooooooo' celebration too? I doubt that any United fan (or anyone who is particularly biased for United) would have been celebrating like crazy for City getting the title with the last kick of the ball (and United losing the title in process).

I don't think that it was anything more than a young player debuting with a fantastic goal. It wasn't better than Benteke's but it was still a great goal.

[killer-heels]

Tyler celebrates like that many times, and also for other teams. For those who think that he's a United fan and biased toward us, didn't he do the 'Agueroooooooooo' celebration too? I doubt that any United fan (or anyone who is particularly biased for United) would have been celebrating like crazy for City getting the title with the last kick of the ball (and United losing the title in process).

I don't think that it was anything more than a young player debuting with a fantastic goal. It wasn't better than Benteke's but it was still a great goal.

Aguero was a decider late in the game that won the title. And he shouted the players name. For Martial he basically shouted Yes like a fan would do.

[Adam_LFC]

Aguero was a decider late in the game that won the title. And he shouted the players name. For Martial he basically shouted Yes like a fan would do.

Yep, both completely different. The manner in which Aguero scored in the last minute of the last game of the season to win the title was obviously going to make any commentator react like that.

He shouted yes for fuck sake.. You can't say that isn't bias coming through to the surface.

[RossoBianchi]

The argument about whether commentators are biased is one of the most yawn-inducing and done to death. Tyler is a brilliant commentator, still the best around, compared to Alan 'What a goal' Parry, John 'Bumbling Idiot' Motson, and the rest. Over the years, Tyler's most famous/infamous soundbites have been built around narrative and narrative alone, not club allegiance. The Martial goal commentary wasn't because he favours United, does he bollocks, but the story of a young 19-year-old coming from relative oblivion, becoming the world's most expensive teenager ever, getting pelters in the press (http://bit.ly/1F9encV) and then having a week where he makes his debut for France, debut for United, and scores a magical late goal to help his new side beat their biggest rivals in front of the Stretford End does, in Tyler's eyes, warrant a bit of heightened passion. Just like Andy Gray for Gerrard vs Olympiakos.

[killer-heels]

The argument about whether commentators are biased is one of the most yawn-inducing and done to death. Tyler is a brilliant commentator, still the best around, compared to Alan 'What a goal' Parry, John 'Bumbling Idiot' Motson, and the rest. Over the years, Tyler's most famous/infamous soundbites have been built around narrative and narrative alone, not club allegiance. The Martial goal commentary wasn't because he favours United, does he bollocks, but the story of a young 19-year-old coming from relative oblivion, becoming the world's most expensive teenager ever, getting pelters in the press (http://bit.ly/1F9encV) and then having a week where he makes his debut for France, debut for United, and scores a magical late goal to help his new side beat their biggest rivals in front of the Stretford End does, in Tyler's eyes, warrant a bit of heightened passion. Just like Andy Gray for Gerrard vs Olympiakos.

If you are comparing that Gerrard goal in terms of importance and build up and drama to Martial then you are massively mistaken. I dont really give a shit about knob head commentators and shite pundits. Neville doesnt know fuck all. Souness talks shite. But that Tyler incident was clear Utd bias.

Do i care in the long term? No not really. I am not going to start a petition. But it was bias.